BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only - Page 509

jdobbs · 15th November 2010, 00:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by shon3i

Because depend of resolution, look here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154533 at section 1.4. Anyway color characteristics are not mandatory for BD, and decoder in BD device will automaticlly assume characteristics based on resolution. that is specified in specs.

Oh yeah. If you add that to all encodes, it could screw up the color characteristics of SD components of a disc.

red23wolf · 15th November 2010, 00:16

I have about 200GB space free so I don't think that is it. I also deleted and reripped Toy Story 3 and tried again with the same result. What are your BD RB settings maybe mine are not correct. I did find out that I had the older version of BD RB and I installed the new one and again same result. Again here is the log I have

Code:

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[17:42:22] BD Rebuilder v0.36.02 (beta)
  - Source:  TOY_STORY_3_DISC_1
  - Input BD size: 27.37 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:42:33.355]
  - Target BD size: 4.36 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
  - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
  - Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
  - Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[17:42:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [17:42:25] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [17:42:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00323]
 - [17:42:45] Reencoding: VID_00323 (8 of 47)
 - [17:42:45] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,995 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,647 Kbs
 - [17:42:45] Reencoding: VID_00323, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:43:56] Reencoding: VID_00323, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:46:02] Video Encode complete
 - [17:46:02] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [17:46:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00301]
 - [17:46:06] Reencoding: VID_00301 (9 of 47)
 - [17:46:06] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 649 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,753 Kbs
 - [17:46:06] Reencoding: VID_00301, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:46:30] Reencoding: VID_00301, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:47:15] Video Encode complete
 - [17:47:15] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [17:47:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00324]
 - [17:47:21] Reencoding: VID_00324 (10 of 47)
 - [17:47:21] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,185 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,730 Kbs
 - [17:47:21] Reencoding: VID_00324, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:48:04] Reencoding: VID_00324, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:49:27] Video Encode complete
 - [17:49:27] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [17:49:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00302]
 - [17:49:35] Reencoding: VID_00302 (11 of 47)
 - [17:49:35] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,738 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,800 Kbs
 - [17:49:35] Reencoding: VID_00302, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:50:36] Reencoding: VID_00302, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:52:32] Video Encode complete
 - [17:52:32] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [17:52:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00325]
 - [17:52:36] Reencoding: VID_00325 (12 of 47)
 - [17:52:36] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 523 frames
   - Bitrate: 5,672 Kbs
 - [17:52:36] Reencoding: VID_00325, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:52:57] Reencoding: VID_00325, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:53:39] Video Encode complete
 - [17:53:39] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [17:53:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00303]
 - [17:53:45] Reencoding: VID_00303 (13 of 47)
 - [17:53:45] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,030 frames
   - Bitrate: 5,494 Kbs
 - [17:53:45] Reencoding: VID_00303, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:54:27] Reencoding: VID_00303, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:55:38] Video Encode complete
 - [17:55:38] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [17:55:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00326]
 - [17:55:48] Reencoding: VID_00326 (14 of 47)
 - [17:55:48] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,027 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,940 Kbs
 - [17:55:48] Reencoding: VID_00326, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:57:02] Reencoding: VID_00326, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:59:11] Video Encode complete
 - [17:59:11] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [17:59:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00304]
 - [17:59:20] Reencoding: VID_00304 (15 of 47)
 - [17:59:20] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,823 frames
   - Bitrate: 5,029 Kbs
 - [17:59:20] Reencoding: VID_00304, Pass 1 of 2
 - [18:00:27] Reencoding: VID_00304, Pass 2 of 2
 - [18:02:41] Video Encode complete
 - [18:02:41] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [18:02:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00327]
 - [18:02:46] Reencoding: VID_00327 (16 of 47)
 - [18:02:46] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 746 frames
   - Bitrate: 5,244 Kbs
 - [18:02:46] Reencoding: VID_00327, Pass 1 of 2
 - [18:03:15] Reencoding: VID_00327, Pass 2 of 2
 - [18:04:09] Video Encode complete
 - [18:04:09] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [18:04:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00305]
 - [18:04:13] Reencoding: VID_00305 (17 of 47)
 - [18:04:13] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 638 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,609 Kbs
 - [18:04:13] Reencoding: VID_00305, Pass 1 of 2
 - [18:04:36] Reencoding: VID_00305, Pass 2 of 2
 - [18:05:16] Video Encode complete
 - [18:05:16] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [18:05:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00328]
 - [18:05:22] Reencoding: VID_00328 (18 of 47)
 - [18:05:22] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,018 frames
   - Bitrate: 5,072 Kbs
 - [18:05:22] Reencoding: VID_00328, Pass 1 of 2
 - [18:05:59] Reencoding: VID_00328, Pass 2 of 2
 - [18:07:07] Video Encode complete
 - [18:07:07] Multiplexing M2TS
[18:07:09] - Failed to build structure, aborted

I did try another movie called After Life with no problems. So I am just lost...

jdobbs · 15th November 2010, 00:23

I ripped "Toy Story 3" with AnyDVD and backed it up (full, ALTERNATE, and movie-only) with no issues. Try posting your INI and I'll see if there is anything different I need to try.

CV91913 · 15th November 2010, 00:36

Had nothing to do today so I decided to test the new alternate DVD output option. I used a BD25 directory structure that was previously created with BDRB (Spider-Man). The process went smoothly and with no errors. The first thing I noticed was that the size of the Video_TS directory that was created was 4.93 GB. So, I can't create DVD unless I run it through CloneDVD and compress it (CloneDVD reports 87% compression.) I was able to play the Video_TS on the computer and the picture looked great but the sound was ahead of the video. Without compressing the output I can't test the sound on a standalone player but I will do the compression and test it if you would like. Here are the logs, etc...

Code:

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter:  Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO:  Set to "All Supported", Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC:  Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC:  Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC:  Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec":  Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec":  Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.2, Ok
- X264:  Ok
- AFTEN:  Ok
- FAAC:  Ok
- MP4BOX:  Ok
- WAVI:  Ok
- TSMUXER:  Ok

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[09:58:12] BD Rebuilder v0.36.02 (beta)
  - Source:  SPIDER_MAN
  - Input BD size: 21.83 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:01:12.287]
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
  - MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
  - Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
  - Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[09:58:12] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [09:58:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
 - [10:08:09] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
 - [10:08:09] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 174,360 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,518 Kbs
 - [10:08:09] Reencoding: VID_00000
 - [14:03:09] Video Encode complete
 - [14:03:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:05:15] Multiplexing M2TS
[14:05:15]PHASE ONE complete
[14:05:15]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [14:05:15] Rebuilding stream 00000 [1 of 1]
 - [14:05:15] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
 - [14:07:12] Starting MPLEX.
 - [14:10:33] Building DVD File Structure.
[14:14:22] - Encode and Rebuild complete
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
[14:14:24]JOB: SPIDER_MAN finished.

[Status]
LABEL=SPIDER_MAN
VERSION=v0.36.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=23443316736
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=23443316736
TARGET_SIZE=4686086144
REDUCTION=.199890066613482
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=1
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4686086144
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

Video_TS File Structure  4.93 GB (5,300,649,984) SIZE ON DISK

VIDEO_TS.BUP            6 KB
VIDEO_TS.IFO            6 KB
VTS_01_0.BUP           78 KB
VTS_01_0.IFO           78 KB
VTS_01_1.VOB    1,048,544 KB   00:21:02
VTS_01_2.VOB    1,048,544 KB   00:21:02
VTS_01_3.VOB    1,048,544 KB   00:21:02
VTS_01_4.VOB    1,048,544 KB   00:21:02
VTS_01_5.VOB      982,062 KB   00:27:51

red23wolf · 15th November 2010, 01:26

Ok here is the Inspection of BD RB

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Not recommended setting
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Hope this helps...

Thanks agian

jdobbs · 15th November 2010, 02:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by CV91913

Had nothing to do today so I decided to test the new alternate DVD output option. I used a BD25 directory structure that was previously created with BDRB (Spider-Man). The process went smoothly and with no errors. The first thing I noticed was that the size of the Video_TS directory that was created was 4.93 GB. So, I can't create DVD unless I run it through CloneDVD and compress it (CloneDVD reports 87% compression.) I was able to play the Video_TS on the computer and the picture looked great but the sound was ahead of the video. Without compressing the output I can't test the sound on a standalone player but I will do the compression and test it if you would like. Here are the logs, etc...

Hmmm... all mine are coming in right around 4.3GB and perfect sync. Is yours NTSC or PAL?

CV91913 · 15th November 2010, 02:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Hmmm... all mine are coming in right around 4.3GB and perfect sync. Is yours NTSC or PAL?

NTSC...I saw the "assume PAL" in the settings but it is not checked.

jdobbs · 15th November 2010, 04:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by CV91913

NTSC...I saw the "assume PAL" in the settings but it is not checked.

Ok. I have the NTSC version of "SPIDERMAN" (I assume it was the first one) , I'll give it a go and see how it comes out for me. You say you ran it through BD-RB before the encode? Was it a full or movie-only backup?

CV91913 · 15th November 2010, 05:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Ok. I have the NTSC version of "SPIDERMAN" (I assume it was the first one) , I'll give it a go and see how it comes out for me. You say you ran it through BD-RB before the encode? Was it a full or movie-only backup?

Yup...the first one. It was run through as a BD25 movie only with english AC3 multi-channel and two english subtitles. BTW...I think that BD25 was done with 35.01 so it might be slightly smaller than if you do it with 36.02.

alluringreality · 15th November 2010, 05:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Oh yeah. If you add that to all encodes, it could screw up the color characteristics of SD components of a disc.

Thanks anyway, I guess I'll have to come up with some other way to re-encode the video so it remains flagged. Apparently there are some players that decode HD video differently depending if it is flagged or unflagged. To error on the safe side, the decision had been to go ahead and flag the video, even if it doesn't affect most players.

PurpleMan · 15th November 2010, 09:32

@jdobbs:

Just did "Pan's Labyrinth" UK edition full-disc backup with 0.36.2 with x264's internal LAVF decoding.

The resulted main-movie stream on the disc was out of sync with the untouched audio and subtitles.

I'm now doing it with regular directshow decoding and will report how it goes, though I must say I'm rather curious what caused this. As far as I can tell, the source file of the main movie isn't hybrid, but a regular 23.976 fps VC1.

The only odd thing worth noting is that some streams on the disc (notably special features) are 576i/p 25fps while the main movie is 23.976.

I'd investigate the input stream further if you can help me with the 'how'. I wanted to use a tool like DGIndex to look at the source file, but I don't have a license for DGVC1DecNV.

jdobbs · 15th November 2010, 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by alluringreality

Thanks anyway, I guess I'll have to come up with some other way to re-encode the video so it remains flagged. Apparently there are some players that decode HD video differently depending if it is flagged or unflagged. To error on the safe side, the decision had been to go ahead and flag the video, even if it doesn't affect most players.

Not if they follow the specifications (at least for bt709) -- which they must in order to be certified. Same with DVD. They could treat it differently -- but only if it is flagged to not be bt709.

PurpleMan · 15th November 2010, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurpleMan

@jdobbs:

Just did "Pan's Labyrinth" UK edition full-disc backup with 0.36.2 with x264's internal LAVF decoding.

The resulted main-movie stream on the disc was out of sync with the untouched audio and subtitles.

I'm now doing it with regular directshow decoding and will report how it goes, though I must say I'm rather curious what caused this. As far as I can tell, the source file of the main movie isn't hybrid, but a regular 23.976 fps VC1.

The only odd thing worth noting is that some streams on the disc (notably special features) are 576i/p 25fps while the main movie is 23.976.

I'd investigate the input stream further if you can help me with the 'how'. I wanted to use a tool like DGIndex to look at the source file, but I don't have a license for DGVC1DecNV.

Update: finished encoding with regular directshow ffdshow decoding. Unfortunately - still won't sync =/

Update 2: Thanks to ffdshow's OSD of frame information, I can confirm that the source is, in fact, hybrid. There are studio logos in the beginning which alternate from PROGRESSIVE to INTERALCED and vice versa.

jdobbs · 15th November 2010, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurpleMan

Update: finished encoding with regular directshow ffdshow decoding. Unfortunately - still won't sync =/

Update 2: Thanks to ffdshow's OSD of frame information, I can confirm that the source is, in fact, hybrid. There are studio logos in the beginning which alternate from PROGRESSIVE to INTERALCED and vice versa.

Did BD-RB detect that it as hybrid ("**" after the fps in the streams list)?

PurpleMan · 15th November 2010, 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Did BD-RB detect that it as hybrid ("**" after the fps in the streams list)?

Apparently I was wrong, I just noticed that what I considered alternating from frame type P to frame type I in ffdshow's OSD was just the text flickering fast.

bd-rb detects it as 23.976 1080p, and as far as I can tell right now (with lack of better tools) - it seems like it's right.

The avs script it genereated for the encode is simple enough (directshowsource), and opening the original m2ts in media player classic plays fine using the same directshow filters that are used for the encode (I guess). What on earth could be causing this to unsync on both cases? (internal x264 decoding AND directshow).

Audio and subs remain in sync, so I presume the problem is with the encoded video (plus, I left the DTS-HD track untouched).

Any idea?

jdobbs · 15th November 2010, 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurpleMan

Apparently I was wrong, I just noticed that what I considered alternating from frame type P to frame type I in ffdshow's OSD was just the text flickering fast.

bd-rb detects it as 23.976 1080p, and as far as I can tell right now (with lack of better tools) - it seems like it's right.

The avs script it genereated for the encode is simple enough (directshowsource), and opening the original m2ts in media player classic plays fine using the same directshow filters that are used for the encode (I guess). What on earth could be causing this to unsync on both cases? (internal x264 decoding AND directshow).

Audio and subs remain in sync, so I presume the problem is with the encoded video (plus, I left the DTS-HD track untouched).

Any idea?

I'll see if I can find "Pan's Labyrinth" and run it.

jdobbs · 15th November 2010, 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by CV91913

Yup...the first one. It was run through as a BD25 movie only with english AC3 multi-channel and two english subtitles. BTW...I think that BD25 was done with 35.01 so it might be slightly smaller than if you do it with 36.02.

I just checked the output (same sequence as yours) for the job I ran overnight, and it is in perfect sync for me. I did find a bug while looking at this, but it is completely unrelated to your issue.

alluringreality · 15th November 2010, 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Not if they follow the specifications (at least for bt709) -- which they must in order to be certified.

I think it was just a few digital media player type of devices. I've personally seen software players that mess up decodes, so we were just being cautious. Thanks again for the reply about the hidden settings.

CV91913 · 15th November 2010, 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdobbs

I just checked the output (same sequence as yours) for the job I ran overnight, and it is in perfect sync for me. I did find a bug while looking at this, but it is completely unrelated to your issue.

I seem to remember another thread where you were testing the use of a newer version of the Matroska splitter...which one did you use for this test? How about the size? Was that OK?

jdobbs · 15th November 2010, 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by CV91913

I seem to remember another thread where you were testing the use of a newer version of the Matroska splitter...which one did you use for this test? How about the size? Was that OK?

The size was 4.29GB.

I don't see a connection Matroska Splitter with resizing or sync errors.

I'd suggest you remove BD-RB and all helper apps and reinstall. Also remove any CODEC packs you may be using. The most likely candidate for this is a CODEC issue.

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red23wolf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 4	Ok here is the Inspection of BD RB - Windows Version: 6.1 [7600] - AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok - HAALI Splitter: Ok - FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok - FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Not recommended setting - WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok - WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok - WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok - FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok - FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok - FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok - BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.2, Ok - X264: Ok - AFTEN: Ok - FAAC: Ok - MP4BOX: Ok - WAVI: Ok - TSMUXER: Ok Hope this helps... Thanks agian

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PurpleMan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 273	@jdobbs: Just did "Pan's Labyrinth" UK edition full-disc backup with 0.36.2 with x264's internal LAVF decoding. The resulted main-movie stream on the disc was out of sync with the untouched audio and subtitles. I'm now doing it with regular directshow decoding and will report how it goes, though I must say I'm rather curious what caused this. As far as I can tell, the source file of the main movie isn't hybrid, but a regular 23.976 fps VC1. The only odd thing worth noting is that some streams on the disc (notably special features) are 576i/p 25fps while the main movie is 23.976. I'd investigate the input stream further if you can help me with the 'how'. I wanted to use a tool like DGIndex to look at the source file, but I don't have a license for DGVC1DecNV.