BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by KeVe1983

Hi,

i've deleted the Disk and the Encode after encoding, so i cant show you the inf, or ini. Sry!

My Setting:

Full Backup
Quicker Encode for Extras
BD 25
High Quality (default) - 2pass
No reencode for Audio
LAV was disabled

The Encode runs fine, but the result was not good.
A part of the end of the movie was 1pass encoded.
It was very pixelated.

I get the Disc again today and tell you which m2zs file it was.

I had the same problems with Harry Potter 1 and 2.
The Extended ones.
So the extended parts of the movie where pixelated.

I tried it with every setting I could think of... and reviewed all the logs. Never did it use the "Quick Encode" for a part of the main feature.

I also went through the code, and could only find one place where something like that could happen. That would be if somehow the total amount of the audio/pgs information added to more than the output size allocated to the entire M2TS. In that instance, if the length of the video was less than 5 minutes, it will encode with a fixed CRF rather than abort with a "Destination too small" error. For that to happen should be almost impossible -- and I tried everything I could to make it happen -- and couldn't.

[Sharc]

In DVD-5 PAL alternate mode it appears that HCenc produces intermittently blended fields in the VIDxxxxx.avs.m2ts files (i.e. ghost pictures for the bottom and top field when separating fields).
The Blu-ray source is clean, progressive.
Not sure if I got this right, but I wouldn't have expected blended fields...

Added:
I also also sometimes get the HC ERROR "..source mismatch found in pass 2 starting at frame: 0,count 1 frames". Could this be related to the ghosting of some fields?

It's a multi-segment BD source.

Added 2:
Ooops! I just noticed that I have a non-recommended (more recent) version of ffdshow installed. Could the field blending be related to this?

[proper88]

hi jdobbs,
your software is great but i am missing only one feature/option to detect Forced UT in specific language.
For example:
German, only forced UT
If the filme has no forced UT there are no further subtitles in the final image.
If the films has "Forced UT", only one "Forced UT" is in the final image.

Now i have read to the subtitles manually withBDSup2Sub to get the Forced UT.

Is this possbile ?

/proper88

[JJB]

Originally Posted by Sharc

In DVD-5 PAL alternate mode it appears that HCenc produces intermittently blended fields in the VIDxxxxx.avs.m2ts files (i.e. ghost pictures for the bottom and top field when separating fields).
The Blu-ray source is clean, progressive.
Not sure if I got this right, but I wouldn't have expected blended fields...

Added:
I also also sometimes get the HC ERROR "..source mismatch found in pass 2 starting at frame: 0,count 1 frames". Could this be related to the ghosting of some fields?

It's a multi-segment BD source.

I don't think it is PAL related as I get it with NTSC builds on 3 different PC's.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Sharc

In DVD-5 PAL alternate mode it appears that HCenc produces intermittently blended fields in the VIDxxxxx.avs.m2ts files (i.e. ghost pictures for the bottom and top field when separating fields).
The Blu-ray source is clean, progressive.
Not sure if I got this right, but I wouldn't have expected blended fields...

Added:
I also also sometimes get the HC ERROR "..source mismatch found in pass 2 starting at frame: 0,count 1 frames". Could this be related to the ghosting of some fields?

It's a multi-segment BD source.

Added 2:
Ooops! I just noticed that I have a non-recommended (more recent) version of ffdshow installed. Could the field blending be related to this?

Hmmm... I can't imagine blended fields unless you have "Deinterlace with DECOMB" selected -- and that would only be applied to an interlaced source.

That HC error frame count error has been reported -- but right now I have no idea what is causing it.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Hi!

I'm posting this request for an update only because you mentioned a timeframe in which you were going to check this out:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...ostcount=10244

It seems to be one of several variants on the same basic problem, namely, disappearing audio and subs for the main movie, when BDRB has made a full disc copy in Blu-ray format to a DVD9 ("BD9") and it is played on a SONY 360 (Plays properly under PowerDVD7.3). Similar but more extreme behavior recently noted with "Scott Pilgrim vs. the World".

When you get a chance, any additional insight will be appreciated ;>}

[drmih]

Isn't this a purely firmware issue as the discs are fine on other standalones and when I took the bd-9 contents and put them on a bd-25 the Sony plays them fine? I have also noticed that the Sonys get confused on branching titles (multi segment titles - typically ones with extended versions) where the sound suddenly vanishes and then returns at the next scene, whereas the discs are fine on other players.

[Capsbackup]

My experience has been any Blu-ray title with PiP, if a full backup is burned to BD5/9 media will have no audio heard nor selectable subtitles for the main feature. If this same backup is burned to BD-R/RE media, the main titles audio and subtitles work just as they are suppose to. I experience this with both my Sony BX1 and S360.
So whatever's the case, as long as BD-R/RE media is used, my PiP backups work perfectly. ( of course not DTS Express secondary audio )

[setarip_old]

@drmih

Hi!

Isn't this a purely firmware issue

If you're referring to my post #10387, I'll simply suggest to you that if things were that clear cut and certain, I'm quite sure that "jdobbs" would have stated that, rather than saying, as he did, "...I'll check it tomorrow..."

I would hope that if the stated purpose of BD-RB continues to include making viable full disc backups on DVD-9s, "jdobbs" will be able to resolve this issue - since not everybody doing the beta testing owns a Blu-ray burner and uses Blu-ray media...

[Capsbackup]

@setarip_old;
unfortunately there appears to be a limitation for certain types of full backups to DVD media, and I believe this is what you are up against. The Sony players are perhaps the most compatible players, but we have found where they have trouble.
It would be nice if jdobbs could find a cure for this, but I think even he has his doubts. Time will tell. I still do the majority of my backups to BD5/9, so I do understand.
Besides, if the same backup works properly when burned on BD-R/RE media, it's hard to argue BD-RB even has a problem!
There is a work around for this if you are so determined, but it does not retain the PiP. The main features audio and subtitles will work properly, so you can still make full movie backups to DVD media where the original Blu-ray has PiP.

[Sharc]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Hmmm... I can't imagine blended fields unless you have "Deinterlace with DECOMB" selected -- and that would only be applied to an interlaced source.

That HC error frame count error has been reported -- but right now I have no idea what is causing it.

Field blending (fields with ghost picture):
I notice that you set *INTERLACED in HC.ini. Could it be the reason for the blended fields? The source is progressive.

From the HC manual:
*INTERLACED
parameter
Status not required
Default -
Example *INTERLACED
Use this command if your source is interlaced.If this command is used also the alternate scan method is set.

Frame count error:
I had this in previous versions as well, and Hank gave some explanation about it. IIRC it is not critical. I remember there are also some posts in the HCenc (0.24?) thread.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Sharc

Field blending (fields with ghost picture):
I notice that you set *INTERLACED in HC.ini. Could it be the reason for the blended fields? The source is progressive.

From the HC manual:
*INTERLACED
parameter
Status not required
Default -
Example *INTERLACED
Use this command if your source is interlaced.If this command is used also the alternate scan method is set.

Frame count error:
I had this in previous versions as well, and Hank gave some explanation about it. IIRC it is not critical. I remember there are also some posts in the HCenc (0.24?) thread.

In DVD all sources are "interlaced" by standard. Even if they are progressive they are considered interlaced -- there just happens to be no time difference between the two fields (which is what truly defines progressive). I could see how reencoding a true interlaced source as progressive might cause ghosting, but going the other way shouldn't. I'll take a look at it though.

[Sharc]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

In DVD all sources are "interlaced" by standard. Even if they are progressive they are considered interlaced -- there just happens to be no time difference between the two fields (which is what truly defines progressive). I could see how reencoding a true interlaced source as progressive might cause ghosting, but going the other way shouldn't. I'll take a look at it though.

Here my latest findings:
The source is VC-1. The ghosted pictures are already present when watching the .avs script in a player. So the ghosting has definitely nothing to do with HCenc. I tried your recommended as well as the most recent version of ffdshow set to wmv-9, it's all the same.
When I do the decoding with neuron2's DGdecNV everything is clean - no ghosts.
Is it possibly a problem of the ffdshow/wmv-9 decoder?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Sharc

Here my latest findings:
The source is VC-1. The ghosted pictures are already present when watching the .avs script in a player. So the ghosting has definitely nothing to do with HCenc. I tried your recommended as well as the most recent version of ffdshow set to wmv-9, it's all the same.
When I do the decoding with neuron2's DGdecNV everything is clean - no ghosts.
Is it possibly a problem of the ffdshow/wmv-9 decoder?

That's all it could be... but I've never seen anything like that.

[Adbear]

I'm also having issues with interlaced VC-1. I've just encoded the 6 disc boxset of Dr Who season 5 down to BD-R 25 and they all have ghosting/jerky images on fast movement and especially on the closing credits. I tried with and without decomb just to make sure. Original ripped discs play fine

[The_Unknown]

Hello jdobbs,

at first: the BD-RB works great for me. But one bug there is inside. When I check some languages in the setup-dialog the program doesn't seem to notice that. I checked English and German and the program only selects the English track, not the German one. This happens with every disc I inserted.

Also I would like to ask for one feature: Could you please make it possible not only to check the languages to keep but also keep English when no other language is available (for example in the extras there's in most cases only English). That's because checking only a language which isn't English can result in not having any audio track in the extras.

So now I have to check every single video track for the right languages which can be quiet annoying

[Kampfwurstwasser]

Did you select German (Ger) and German (Deu) in the setup?

[The_Unknown]

I attached the settings. I couldn't find German (deu).

[Adbear]

German (deu) is under in the 'D' section not under 'G'

[The_Unknown]

Ah, I see. Now it checks the German language. But when I select only German to keep I still have no English track in the extras although it's the only language there Would it be possible to change that?

And would it also be possible to make the main window resizeable?