BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with the newest release of BD Rebuilder (v0.37.04). Changes for this release:

- Added a new option in the ALTERNATE output
  selections.  You can now choose a target size
  in addition to CRF or bitrate.
- Made some minor improvements in the way IVTC
  is handled that can improve picture quality.
- Added a hidden option "DEINTERLACER_TYPE" that
  will allow you to set the type of deinterlace
  algorithm to use (when selected from SETUP). 
  The settings are:  1=Decomb w/o blend, 
  2=Decomb w/blend, 3=SmoothDeinterlace, and
  4=Progressive.  The last option (4) should be 
  used when the source is progressive -- but it 
  needs "fake-interlaced" to be asserted during 
  encode.
- Added a new hidden option "EXTENDED_GOP".  
  Setting this value to "1" will instruct BD-RB 
  to use a 48 frame GOP size when writing to 
  BD-5 OR BD-9.
- Inserted temporary code to prevent streams that
  contain IGS from being processed.  Since these
  are normally menus and by nature are small, 
  they will be kept intact.  This should prevent 
  the rare "Menu without buttons" issue until
  IGS reintegration routines are completed.
- Changed setting for "Use X264 Internal LAVF" to
  "on" as the default.
- Corrected an error in which using BATCH mode
  can sometimes incorrectly set the audio and
  subtitle selections.
- Corrected a bug in which under very rare and
  specific circumstances LAVF could be selected
  even though IVTC is in effect.
- Corrected an error in the ALTERNATE OUTPUT
  dialog that could cause checkboxes to be set
  at the same time.
- Corrected a problem in which some VC-1 sources
  might be incorrectly IVTC'd.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
  latest release (r1990).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to 
  the latest release (r1884).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[HWK]

Jdobbs, On first page it says January 7 instead of feburary release.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs
Re: v.37.04

- Added a new hidden option "EXTENDED_GOP".
Setting this value to "1" will instruct BD-RB
to use a 48 frame GOP size when writing to
BD-5 OR BD-9.

What is the effect/benefit of this option?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by HWK

Jdobbs, On first page it says January 7 instead of feburary release.

Whoops. I'll fix it.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by setarip_old

@jdobbs
Re: v.37.04

What is the effect/benefit of this option?

It was a request. If going to BD-5/9 you will probably squeeze out a little more quality at the same bitrate because you're using more P & B frames and fewer I frames.

I'm using it for all my BD-5/9 backups now. It's one of those things that's only allowed on Blu-ray if the maximum bitrate is below 15Mbs (as in BD-5/9).

[laserfan]

Originally Posted by setarip_old

What is the effect/benefit of this option?

Look at the three posts starting here.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by laserfan

Look at the three posts starting here.

I'd say the only thing I'd disagree on is whether a longer GOP will help pulsing to any appreciable degree. I think it would probably slow it down (from 1 second to 2), but ipratio and pbratio are a better fix for pulsing. In fact the reason BD-RB uses 1.1 on each rather that the defaults of 1.4 and 1.3 (ipratio/pbratio) is in response to early reports of pulsing at low bitrates. As shon3i suggested in our previous discussion on pulsing, selecting open GOPs will probably help as well.

[j_m_min]

setarip_old

"Quote:
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream"
If you had done a search of this thread, you'd have seen that "jdobbs" (The author of BD Rebuilder) has stated that this is an error generated from within tsMuxeR - and could only be due to a bad rip.

Is your source material an original, commercial Blu-ray disc, or is it something else?"
_____________________________________________________

Wow, thanks for trying to help. I get so ignored on sites (like afterdawn) looking for help usually that I am surprised I got a couple responses.

Both the eat pray love, avatar and dinner for schmucks were original blu-rays that I got from Netflix. I doubt it matters, but that is where they are from. I tried eat like 8 times, avatar like 5 times and dinner 3 times.

I paid close attention, I get through 100% encoding, but as soon as it gets to re-encoding it fails. Why is this?

I did research that error message and many many threads and I found one post where a guy said his menu file or something was too big (greater thatn 100 mb) and when he unchecked that for recording it worked. I am guessing it could be that picture moving around in the menu. It seems it only records one big file or something, and if there is another greater than 100 mb it gets an erro. But I can't find anywhere where you can pick and choose what files to copy like on CloneDVD. If I could stop trying to record that file that is greater than 100 mb, it might work.

What is "tsMuxeR?" I don't have this program downloaded and its not in the instructions.

Maybe my bad for not posting the whole giant log, I just know it said everything was OK up until re-encoding.

Thanks a lot again. Sorry for the delay.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by j_m_min

setarip_old

"Quote:
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream"
If you had done a search of this thread, you'd have seen that "jdobbs" (The author of BD Rebuilder) has stated that this is an error generated from within tsMuxeR - and could only be due to a bad rip.

Is your source material an original, commercial Blu-ray disc, or is it something else?"
_____________________________________________________

Wow, thanks for trying to help. I get so ignored on sites (like afterdawn) looking for help usually that I am surprised I got a couple responses.

Both the eat pray love, avatar and dinner for schmucks were original blu-rays that I got from Netflix. I doubt it matters, but that is where they are from. I tried eat like 8 times, avatar like 5 times and dinner 3 times.

I paid close attention, I get through 100% encoding, but as soon as it gets to re-encoding it fails. Why is this?

I did research that error message and many many threads and I found one post where a guy said his menu file or something was too big (greater thatn 100 mb) and when he unchecked that for recording it worked. I am guessing it could be that picture moving around in the menu. It seems it only records one big file or something, and if there is another greater than 100 mb it gets an erro. But I can't find anywhere where you can pick and choose what files to copy like on CloneDVD. If I could stop trying to record that file that is greater than 100 mb, it might work.

What is "tsMuxeR?" I don't have this program downloaded and its not in the instructions.

Maybe my bad for not posting the whole giant log, I just know it said everything was OK up until re-encoding.

Thanks a lot again. Sorry for the delay.

I've done all the movies you mentioned -- and didn't get that error. So it's related to some setting you've made or something unique to your setup.

As was mentioned -- that error is almost always the result of a bad rip. Are you using AnyDVD? That's the only truly reliable decryption/ripping package out there (in my humble opinion).

TSMUXER is a 3rd party multiplexer used to demultiplex the streams from the original M2TS files and to create the new M2TS files after reencoding. It is included in the BD Rebuilder zip files and is in the TOOLS folder.

[JJB]

Quote: Both the eat pray love, avatar and dinner for schmucks were original blu-rays that I got from Netflix. I doubt it matters, but that is where they are from. I tried eat like 8 times, avatar like 5 times and dinner 3 times.

Quote: I get so ignored on sites (like afterdawn)

Jeeze, I wonder why?

Is the basement wet or dry?

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Thank you for the explanation regarding "EXTENDED_GOP" ;>}

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
Regarding:

- Inserted temporary code to prevent streams that
contain IGS from being processed. Since these
are normally menus and by nature are small,
they will be kept intact. This should prevent
the rare "Menu without buttons" issue until
IGS reintegration routines are completed.

I have tested my source Blu-ray that has IGS menus with this latest version, BD Rebuilder v0.37.04 (beta), and though it does skip reencoding the IGS menu files and does copy them as is, if the selected output is BD5/9, the finished backup has audio skipping issues while on the menu pages on my S360. The movie plays back fine though! I presume this is because of to high a bitrate for DVD media.
However, when I burn that same backup to BD-RE media, it plays back perfectly.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Capsbackup

@jdobbs;
Regarding:


I have tested my source Blu-ray that has IGS menus with this latest version, BD Rebuilder v0.37.04 (beta), and though it does skip reencoding the IGS menu files and does copy them as is, if the selected output is BD5/9, the finished backup has audio skipping issues while on the menu pages on my S360. The movie plays back fine though! I presume this is because of to high a bitrate for DVD media.
However, when I burn that same backup to BD-RE media, it plays back perfectly.

Ugghh... I'll have to address that. I wasn't thinking of BD-25 backups when I implemented it.

[Ch3vr0n]

@jdobss: ya probably misread there. Caps is stating that using the new method BD25 works fine, its the BD5/9 that has the audio offsync

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Ch3vr0n

@jdobss: ya probably misread there. Caps is stating that using the new method BD25 works fine, its the BD5/9 that has the audio offsync

Yeah... but the skipping etc. is caused by the fact that the bitrate is too high for BD-5/9. In previous versions they were forced to be reencoded for that reason. I failed to consider that there could be an issue with BD-5/9 when you keep a stream intact.

[LowDead]

- Added a new hidden option "EXTENDED_GOP".
Setting this value to "1" will instruct BD-RB
to use a 48 frame GOP size when writing to
BD-5 OR BD-9.

Does this mean I can safely leave it on and not think much about it later?

//LD

[Capsbackup]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Yeah... but the skipping etc. is caused by the fact that the bitrate is too high for BD-5/9. In previous versions they were forced to be reencoded for that reason. I failed to consider that there could be an issue with BD-5/9 when you keep a stream intact.

Not a problem, but maybe just change your update/changes log info to reflect "only for BD-25 backups" at this time!

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by LowDead

Does this mean I can safely leave it on and not think much about it later?

//LD

Yes. It will only be used for BD-5/9. It may become the default in the future.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Based on the fact that you've reponded to all subsequent reports, I'm guessing that my post #11180 "fell down a crack" and eluded what has to be your very tired eyes ;>}

[dfsooner]

Originally Posted by Capsbackup

Not a problem, but maybe just change your update/changes log info to reflect "only for BD-25 backups" at this time!

Please don't do this.

I am testing for a custom size larger than DVD-9 (11000 to be exact). If it works for that, I'll be a happy camper. Besides my menus are not motion, so I don't anticipate any problems of that nature. I'll know in a few hours and will post the results.

Just for the record, I don't use DVD-9 size much any more because I no longer trust double layer DVD media. I have opted for 110000 for most of my rebuilds because it still gives me pretty good PQ and allows enough room to retain the HD audio (which BD-RB apparently allows for anything larger than [BD-9] - thanks for that, by the way - I wish it were optional for any size).