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Old 24th August 2019, 17:11   #6561  |  Link
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no they are just criminals
It sounds like your opinion about PotPlayer team? Strangely enough, FFMpeg devs don't seem to share such view? No action anyway?

I read many users run moded PotPlayer versions without ads. So de-facto its free software for them despite enormous time and skills actively contributed by devs, and quite limited ads profit. What I mean, everyone has baggage to carry, and ideal world is always far away.

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Old 24th August 2019, 17:18   #6562  |  Link
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It sounds like your opinion about PotPlayer team? Strangely enough, FFMpeg devs don't seem to share such view? No action anyway?
huhn is right. There is a hall of shame of ffmpeg developers:
https://github.com/FFmpeg/web/blob/master/src/shame

They created that list already many years back.
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Old 24th August 2019, 17:35   #6563  |  Link
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FFMpeg has number of income sources, including private donations, government issued public fund grants, and large commercial payments from Google and Apple. US Gov also seriously contributes grants to key projects like Mozilla (open source). Everyone seems to be getting some cut, while complaining about others.

According to this Wikipedia article, FFMpeg contains 100+ codecs, which seems to use compression algorithms patented by commercial codec developers subject to copyright and legal claims. Everything is so mixed up in this word. Are LGPL terms enforced worldwide - by what international law?

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Potplayer devs are still violating LGPL.
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Old 24th August 2019, 18:43   #6565  |  Link
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Hi,

My default settings for Youtube are WebM. The audio format of the YouTube videos I open with these settings is opus. But when I select another WebM format from the application control bar, the audio format is aac. Is it possible that the audio format is opus when I make changes from this section?


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Also thanks for adding this feature. I will soon update the Turkish language file.

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Old 25th August 2019, 03:35   #6566  |  Link
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My default settings for Youtube are WebM. The audio format of the YouTube videos I open with these settings is opus. But when I select another WebM format from the application control bar, the audio format is aac. Is it possible that the audio format is opus when I make changes from this section?
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Old 25th August 2019, 22:48   #6567  |  Link
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This software includes a video decoder based on FFmpeg
Many players use that decoder, including MPC-BE. They also get some profit from player development from various sources, including donations. Does that make them criminals too? This world doesn't turn without money one way or another.

I posted quite a simple question here about Previews, since MPC-BE failed to support that, which should draw some answers given extreme streams popularity, but... none so far.

May be I'm posting on the wrong forum? What popular media forum(s) would fit such question the best?

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Many players use that decoder, including MPC-BE. They also get some profit from player development from various sources, including donations. Does that make them criminals too?
No. Everyone is free to use it as long as they release the source code for any changes they make. It is the very easy requirement for using open source code, you got the code for free by agreeing that any derivative code you make will be given back to the community.

All they need to do is post the source for their modified ffmpeg, they don't even need to post the source for the rest of the player. That they cannot even be bothered to do that shows they have no respect for the open source community who's work they stole. What is so hard about posting a zip file of the modified source code?
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All they need to do is post the source for their modified ffmpeg
Thanks for clarifying, I do support such requirement, the only doubt is its hardly legally enforceable worldwide except by means of public outcry.

How about 2nd part of my question. Any ideas about a soft media player showing frame previews in seek bar on mouse hover during movie stream playback? No-one ever attempted to answer it, sounds very strange for video fans community, unless I'm missing something very basic about this forum? Pls help, I'm new here?

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Over at videohelp you didn‘t got any answer to your thread. The feature you want is very special. Why is it so important for your usage to be exactly like that? I mean, there is the feature already in MPC-BE, but not like you want it exactly to be.

Most users want to watch a video or movie with best video quality possible and no dropped or repeated frames, so there is no disturbance of any kind.
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How about 2nd part of my question. Any ideas about a soft media player showing frame previews in seek bar on mouse hover during movie stream playback? No-one ever attempted to answer it, sounds very strange for video fans community, unless I'm missing something very basic about this forum? Pls help, I'm new here?
Zoom Player does it, for only key frames or for everything (obviously slower). I seems to work fine, and was very fast with keyframes, in a quick test I just did (using a ripped bluray on my NAS). I usually leave it disabled anyway.

edit: sorry, it obviously does not work with streaming content. I missed that detail.
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Why have you added Sanear Audio Renderer when you have MPC Audio Renderer? I'm just wondering the reason behind it. Here:
https://yadi.sk/d/r7JYQ2NjHvE4lA
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Why is it so important for your usage? There is the feature already in MPC-BE, but not like you want.
I assume you mean preview from movie files saved on a local disk? Why do I want movie stream preview instead? Because the method of downloading movies to a LAN server or PC disk before watching them is no longer popular, and soon will shrink to none due to fast progress in streaming techniques and much faster networks in media viewing regions.

I have no LAN server anymore, and my friends neither. My PCs are only equipped with SSD drives of limited capacity due to high cost, wearable at frequent movie downloads, so I prefer watching movie streams from RAM. Downloading torrents instead of streaming results in higher download speed and larger network saturation for my provider, who would take adverse measures to protect their network. There may also be legal implications, requiring extra pay for fast VPN service. My friends, who get rid of their LAN servers years ago, were shocked I still used one.

Network streams do deliver best 4K quality at average internet speed, and modern codecs can compensate for some lost frames if any. But many younger folks are limited to 720P laptop screens, and don't need 4K, thus wide spreading streams popularity.

Its not that I desperately need that feature, we can survive without it. But rather modern state of movie playback in developed countries demands stream preview support without further questions. Prove is everywhere. Google is known for their talent in setting popular tech marks. Look how eagerly they were implementing various preview techniques at their YouTube site.

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Someone asked me an on-topic question. Its simply a good habit to answer. I even answer your off-topic remark. Show some tolerance pls. About "giving up", I'm not on any mission here, just wanted clarification, and didn't get any. I asked in 2 separate outside threads, and received no answers whatsoever - this is very distinct from a lengthy boring talk.

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You do seem to not understand the difference between being on the server and client side when implementing this feature.

Google is playing a local/LAN file. MPC-BE, or any player, would need to download the entire thing first or have some API supported by the server to be able to get thumbnail images of key frames or something.

This is one of those features that may sound reasonable to you but simply is not.
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Why have you added Sanear Audio Renderer when you have MPC Audio Renderer? I'm just wondering the reason behind it. Here:
https://yadi.sk/d/r7JYQ2NjHvE4lA
Oooh.. Maybe they've forked it.
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Oooh.. Maybe they've forked it.
No-no. It's just user compile last git version and put
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