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Old 18th January 2020, 03:01   #29201  |  Link
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This is the same file. Used Mediainfo 19.04 (and latest version 19.09) to check it. And I don't have IMPORT_VFR_SCAN at all in my INI.

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Does it report differently if you use the version of MEDIAINFO that is included in BD-RB's tools folder?
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Old 18th January 2020, 03:49   #29202  |  Link
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Does it report differently if you use the version of MEDIAINFO that is included in BD-RB's tools folder?
This is what I get with the included mediainfo (changed filename for ease of use):

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General
Unique ID                                : 0 (0x0)
Complete name                            : 1.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 4 / Version 2
File size                                : 2.06 GiB
Duration                                 : 33 min 16 s
Overall bit rate                         : 8 846 kb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2010-02-22 21:41:29
Writing application                      : no_variable_data
Writing library                          : no_variable_data

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Main@L4
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                                 : 33 min 16 s
Bit rate                                 : 8 286 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan type, store method                  : Separated fields
Scan order                               : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.160
Stream size                              : 1.93 GiB (94%)
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                                 : A_AC3
Duration                                 : 33 min 16 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 384 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 91.4 MiB (4%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
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Old 19th January 2020, 21:59   #29203  |  Link
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Jdobbs: I was wondering ... do you plan on implementing GPU encoding in the future?
I was able to do some testing recently with my new graphics card and the results look awesome.
Additionally the encoding time on a UHD 2hr movie decreased from 30 hours to 40 minutes
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Old 20th January 2020, 00:47   #29204  |  Link
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Jdobbs: I was wondering ... do you plan on implementing GPU encoding in the future?
I was able to do some testing recently with my new graphics card and the results look awesome.
Additionally the encoding time on a UHD 2hr movie decreased from 30 hours to 40 minutes
Encoding with cuda cores have a issues, the final result is a 2176p file, not 2160p.
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Old 20th January 2020, 13:42   #29205  |  Link
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Jdobbs: I was wondering ... do you plan on implementing GPU encoding in the future?
I was able to do some testing recently with my new graphics card and the results look awesome.
Additionally the encoding time on a UHD 2hr movie decreased from 30 hours to 40 minutes
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Encoding with cuda cores have a issues, the final result is a 2176p file, not 2160p.
Really? That's disappointing. I was actually thinking about (eventually) buying an NVIDIA card in the Turing family (for B-Frame support) and doing some testing.

Good to know.
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Old 20th January 2020, 14:22   #29206  |  Link
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@jdobbs Thats because it's obsolete. CUDA has been replaced by NVEnc https://avidemux.org/smif/index.php?topic=16389.0, https://steamcommunity.com/app/33007...4045360096302/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_NVENC
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NVENC is what I was taking about... so the issue he mentioned isn't related to NVENC? I guess I didn't understand that CUDA and NVENC were mutually exclusive.

If I understand it correctly, in FFMPEG NVENC and NVDEC are still called CUDA, but, honestly, I have spend a whole lot of time researching it. My (still unresearched) plan was to use FFMPEG for NVENC encoding.
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CUDA refers to the GPU multiprocessors (cores) and the infrastructure to utilize them. NVDec (previously called CUVID) and NVEnc are separate engines on the GPU that implement video decoding and encoding, respectively. CUDA is certainly not obsolete. And CUVID was not replaced, merely renamed.
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Old 20th January 2020, 17:04   #29209  |  Link
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CUDA refers to the GPU multiprocessors (cores) and the infrastructure to utilize them. NVDec (previously called CUVID) and NVEnc are separate engines on the GPU that implement video decoding and encoding, respectively. CUDA is certainly not obsolete. And CUVID was not replaced, merely renamed.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Encoding with cuda cores have a issues, the final result is a 2176p file, not 2160p.
References?
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I have done around 70% of all 4k uhd releases , using cuda ..
And everyone , still the same
3840 x 2160 pixels..
It takes around 15mins on my geforce gtx 1070 card , to make then fit on a BD50 ..I also use BD Rebuilder , to Alter the build of the disc as well , resulting in resizing a lot less .
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…. My (still unresearched) plan was to use FFMPEG for NVENC encoding.
You may also want to take a look at rigaya's NVEncC. It is continually developed and well documented.
https://github.com/rigaya/NVEnc/releases
https://github.com/rigaya/NVEnc/
https://github.com/rigaya/NVEnc/blob..._Options.en.md

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You may also want to take a look at rigaya's NVEncC. It is continually developed and well documented.
https://github.com/rigaya/NVEnc/releases
https://github.com/rigaya/NVEnc/
https://github.com/rigaya/NVEnc/blob..._Options.en.md
Thanks! This looks great.
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I have done around 70% of all 4k uhd releases , using cuda ..
What program?
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https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/t...-of-3840x2176/
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What program?
I use DVDFAB
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I use DVDFAB
Open playlist on tsmuxer, you will figure out 2176p.

This is incompatible with Xbox One S and X player.
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Based on the reference, it looks like 2176 is it, period. The hardware is only 32x32. Sounds like Xbox needs to get it right. It is the same issue with 1080. It is encoded to 1088 (16x16) and set to display at 1080.
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Yes, tsmuxer reports 2176p, but mediainfo says 2160p... after reading the discussion at nvidia I would trust tsmuxer. BUT it's an old discussion and in the end they say the Turing (for those who don't know: GTX1660, 2060, 2070, 2080 etc...) cards have HW capabilities of 8x8 and 16x16. So off to buy a new gfx card then

Anyway, even though an dvdfab encode have 2176p, I believe they have gotten around the problem with green screen on the XB and also works flawlessly for most others. So what I'm saying, not to get too much OT, is that jdobbs can also fix these problems when/if they occur with bdrb.

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You may also want to take a look at rigaya's NVEncC. It is continually developed and well documented.
https://github.com/rigaya/NVEnc/releases
https://github.com/rigaya/NVEnc/
https://github.com/rigaya/NVEnc/blob..._Options.en.md
I did my testing with Staxrip, which makes use of NVEncC.
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