madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[mclingo]

Originally Posted by Joniii

Sorry I was on a hurry and somehow missed it.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ath_q56vIKVai90p...GIJ9Q?e=NhCqgA

found it, thats the graphics section though not general

Do we know if it actually does anything?

[Joniii]

Originally Posted by CZ Eddie

I remember AVSForum back in 1999 when we were all building early Pentium HTPC's.
I got into that after buying the first HDTV mass released to the public.
The RCA MM36100 36" 4:3 800x600 CRT TV with two VGA inputs.
I used it with an HTPC and the first dish HD receiver, the RCA DTC100.

Can't remember what video card I used but I'm sure it looked something like this.


I'm pretty sure I was way late on my rent after buying that TV from Fry's Electronics in Woodland Hills, CA.

Wow, I didn't know in 99 that there were those kind of TV's. I had maybe 25" back then with normal resolution. I knew there were bigger TV's of course, but I didn't know there were bigger resolutions.

I still remember my Voodoo3 layout. The heatsink and the memory around it because after I did't use it anymore is was around for so long in different places. Sadly I threw it away eventually.

I think it was about the same time that DVD came and it required a PCI card to watch DVD on PC properly, because the performance on PC's wasn't enough. I can't remember what it was but I think it had Hollywood+ on it's name. I still have it somewhere. I'm glad we don't need these anymore for 4k etc

But those were great times. Sometimes a friend came over and brought his PC with him and we tried maybe 2-3 hours to set up a lan on Windows ME or XP and after it finally worked we played some Warcraft II

[huhn]

Originally Posted by Joniii

I found a "10 bit pixel format" setting on Adrenalin general settings today. It's disabled by default.

When it is disabled Windows desktop etc is displayed by the TV with Auto(sRGB/BT.709) when using RGB 4:4:4 10-bit or 8-bit output on Adrenalin Display tab.

On RGB 8-bit output the TV displays BT.709 UHD correctly and also switches correctly to BT.2020 for videos that use it.

On RGB 10-bit output the TV displays BT.709 UHD as BT.2020.

All off above were with "10 bit pixel format" disabled.

However if I then enable the "10 bit pixel format" on the Adrenalin general settings and reboot, everything including the Windows desktop is displayed as BT.2020 by the TV and colours seem to be overly bright and vivid.

I think you were right that it has something to do with AMD. On RGB 10-bit it sends all videos on full screen as BT.2020 and then if "10-bit pixel format" is enabled also, it sends everything including the desktop as BT.2020. Or then it is something on the TV, if there is 10-bit signal it automatically uses BT.2020 no matter what the video contains. I really don't know how these work under the hood but something like that.

I guess it's just better to output everything as 8-bit as there does not seem to be any colour banding etc when using it, RGB 10-bit and 8-bit output seem to produce the same quality test patterns on the TV.

ignore that setting what TV are you using?
and i still don't know your madVR output settings.

@Stephen R. Savage
i wonder why he is not ignoring my bug reports at all.

Originally Posted by mclingo

anyone else on AMD card any idea what he's on about, I cant see anything in DISPLAY, VIDEO or GENERAL apart from "pixel format" in DISPLAY where you set FULL RGB/YBCR etc

it's nearly for sure just for professional software to active the openGL 10 bit hack which was only used in professional cards.
so just ignore it

[mclingo]

I had a voodoo 1 which was just a daughter passthrough card, you had to connect it to a 2d card to get a graphic output, lol, I stopped buying them at 4 or 5 I think and bought a geforce 2 gts which wiped the floor with everything at the time.

[mclingo]

all that pixel setting did for me for prevent MADVR toggling HDR, turned it off again.

[Joniii]

Originally Posted by Stephen R. Savage

madVR has been abandonware ever since madSHI decided to launch his paid madVR-as-a-service product. There will never be another update of madVR, and it will slowly crumble into uselessness with each Windows update and GPU launch. Even on Turing GPUs, madVR is already starting to fall apart with constant microstutterinng. The community will simply have to patch the holes and stick band-aids on the sore spots until enough time passes and keeping madVR in some semblance of life is no longer worth the Sisyphean effort.

I have missed that completely. Did he write something about his decision here?

But yeah not surprising because of one man development team and closed source.

[Joniii]

Originally Posted by huhn

ignore that setting what TV are you using?
and i still don't know your madVR output settings.

Sony Bravia 85X950H, 85XH95 in Europe.

I've always left everything untouched in madVR except I've added the framerates madVR can switch and enabled Exclusive mode. Everything else is default.

I don't know. If this is not going anywhere anymore and it is a problem in madVR then there's nothing we can do about it. If it's a problem with Radeon drivers then it will be fixed someday with a new GPU or new drivers. It does not seem to make any difference on test patterns if I use RGB 8-bit or RBG 10-bit on 10-bit panel. So I'll just leave it to RGB 8-bit and enjoy the content

[huhn]

disable the the auto picture mode the TV.

[Joniii]

Originally Posted by huhn

disable the the auto picture mode the TV.

It was disabled. I guess it is what it is :/

[SamuriHL]

Originally Posted by Klaus1189

Ooops
Since that was an Nvidia issue, so no need to worry guys

I wasn't worried.

Originally Posted by biship

Um, it pretty much is abandoned...

Um, it really isn't. People seem to have short memories when it comes to madvr. There have been plenty of times where we went a LONG time between builds. Yes, even years. madshi is currently focused on something else, but that doesn't mean madvr is abandoned. Madshi recently has said he has a new beta build in the works to test more HDR tone mapping options. madvr is likely to be used as a test bed for enhancements to Envy.

But hey, if you all want to believe it's abandoned, you can install the "last version ever" and be happy with it I guess. LOL

[Joniii]

Originally Posted by VBB

It would seem so, if all you read is doom9. Madshi has been active all this time over on AVS.

I’ve never encountered him there. Which treads is he active in there? I mean is there a madVR thread in there and has just abandoned doom9 or what?

[mclingo]

https://www.avsforum.com/members/mad...atest-activity

[biship]

https://forum.doom9.org/search.php?searchid=8827604

[VBB]

He doesn't check in on the madVR thread in the HTPC section of the forum, but as you can see from mclingo's link, he's active in the tone-mapping thread in the projector section, as well as in the Envy thread.

BTW, does anyone know what happened to Warner aka Onkyoman? He hasn't posted here or at AVS in a long time.

[ryrynz]

Originally Posted by VBB

BTW, does anyone know what happened to Warner aka Onkyoman? He hasn't posted here or at AVS in a long time.

Last Activity: 16th September 2020 22:34 He's around, go say hi

[ktsbkt]

I think I found a subtitle related screenshot bug.
madVR v0.92.17
XySubFilter_3.1.0.752_x86
LAVFilters-0.74.1-x86
MPC-HC.1.8.8.x86

madVR settings -> rendering -> screenshots ->
Checkmark the custom zoom factor and choose "encoded video size".
Subtitles won't appear in the output when I use the Alt+I feature in MPC-HC.

They will appear when I disable the custom zoom factor. But if I use this mode all my 4K video and 1080P video will have tiny screenshots the size of my MPC-HC window.
So I would like to avoid this.
If this intentional, or is it a bug?

[scott1256ca]

Searches for an answer have not produced results, so I ask here.
I want to do tone mapping and scale 4k down to 1080 for a projector I'm not ready to replace yet. I'd like some advice on video card requirements.
video playback is the only requirement. No gaming involved.
My current mobo (chosen for low power consumption) is a j3455 with intel hd 500 graphics. This is not enough to do tone mapping with madvr. I also tried with an older video card (gt240 with 1/2g ram) which is better than the intel graphics, but still not enough. I'd like the card to do 4k 60hz. I like to upgrade the pc monitor to 4k in the near future, but not the projector just yet.
Sorry if this has been answered already, but I can't find it.
Any advice would be welcome.
Thx

[*MidnightWatcher*]

Originally Posted by scott1256ca

Searches for an answer have not produced results, so I ask here.
I want to do tone mapping and scale 4k down to 1080 for a projector I'm not ready to replace yet. I'd like some advice on video card requirements.
video playback is the only requirement. No gaming involved.
My current mobo (chosen for low power consumption) is a j3455 with intel hd 500 graphics. This is not enough to do tone mapping with madvr. I also tried with an older video card (gt240 with 1/2g ram) which is better than the intel graphics, but still not enough. I'd like the card to do 4k 60hz. I like to upgrade the pc monitor to 4k in the near future, but not the projector just yet.
Sorry if this has been answered already, but I can't find it.
Any advice would be welcome.
Thx

When I had my Epson 5030UB the GTX 1060 6GB was great tone mapping and downscaling 4K to 1080p.

[VBB]

At this point it would make sense to wait for the RTX 3060 as the future-proof budget option.

[chros]

@VBB, budget for 400?!