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Old 10th April 2014, 08:34   #19981  |  Link
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[Status]
LABEL=LLUVIA_DOS
VERSION=v0.47.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=24836591616
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=24836591616
TARGET_SIZE=49666850816
REDUCTION=1.99974503683525
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
SSIF_MODE=-1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=1
PGS=1010
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=49666850816
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

04/09/14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.04 (beta)
[22:19:28] Source: LLUVIA_DOS_00000
- Input BD size: 23,13 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:34:50.684]
- Target BD size: 46,26 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[22:19:28] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:19:28] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [22:19:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [22:32:00] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [22:32:01] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [22:32:01] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (spa): Keeping original audio
[22:32:01]PHASE ONE complete
[22:32:01]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:32:01] Rebuilding BD-3D file Structure
[22:52:34] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[22:52:34] JOB: LLUVIA_DOS finished.
- [22:58:25] BuildTreeList() 35602 2702
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Old 10th April 2014, 14:12   #19982  |  Link
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I'm having the same problem w/Avatar3D. Rebuilding to BD25 movie, menus and 20th Century intro only. Blanking everything else. Playing movie from folders or from disc burned with ImgBurn and the latest PDVD12 v3519 (I know, I know, but it works for me). 20th Century intro plays in 3D but then 3D is disabled (greyed out) when menus are played. Movie won't play in 3D either. Original disc plays fine in PDVD12. Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks...
I'm sorry, but you're blanking, which I wouldn't recommend for 3D until it has been tested more, and playing back on a player that we already know has issues with 3D.

AVATAR 3D is one of the test discs I am using, and it plays correctly in 3D after reencoding, even on PDVD11, on my system.
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Old 10th April 2014, 14:21   #19983  |  Link
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The error you are getting is really weird. It is saying there is a problem when it is trying to build the display list. That shouldn't even be happening except when the program is loading or you are selecting a new source. That makes me think the computer had a major system problem at that point.
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Old 11th April 2014, 00:19   #19984  |  Link
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I'm sorry, but you're blanking, which I wouldn't recommend for 3D until it has been tested more, and playing back on a player that we already know has issues with 3D.

AVATAR 3D is one of the test discs I am using, and it plays correctly in 3D after reencoding, even on PDVD11, on my system.
Just a word of warning to those like me who are using Dune 3D players - full 3D backups and movie-only backups using BDRB do not play. I suspect the firmware does not support the format without SSIF folders.
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Old 11th April 2014, 02:02   #19985  |  Link
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Just a word of warning to those like me who are using Dune 3D players - full 3D backups and movie-only backups using BDRB do not play. I suspect the firmware does not support the format without SSIF folders.
It has to in order to legally call itself a BD-3D player. Support for that format is required as a part of the BD standard. There are also numerous commercial discs out there (AVATAR is an example) that use it, albeit usually for smaller playlists. Give me more information and lets see if there is something that needs correcting. There's a lot of new code that was created for 3D support.
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Old 11th April 2014, 02:33   #19986  |  Link
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It has to in order to legally call itself a BD-3D player. Support for that format is required as a part of the BD standard. There are also numerous commercial discs out there (AVATAR is an example) that use it, albeit usually for smaller playlists. Give me more information and lets see if there is something that needs correcting. There's a lot of new code that was created for 3D support.
All the original ripped discs play ok on this player but none that I have run through BDRB will play. The screen just goes black and nothing happens. I can see on the player's front display that it finds an m2ts file, then "chapter 1" appears, then 00.00.00. Not sure what all that means.

Some of the titles I tried are:

Alice in Wonderland
GI Joe - Retaliation
Avatar
Journey to the Center of the Earth

The stream folder in all of these originals include an SSIF subfolder.

Unless you have a Dune 3D player, I'm not sure how you would figure out what is happening (or, for that matter, even if you did have one unless you had the firmware source to work with).

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Old 11th April 2014, 05:41   #19987  |  Link
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idk what to do :/

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4530, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD-RB vUNKNOWN, not current

scratching my head on this one. i have uninstalled bd and the other three programs many times over. i have been using this software for years now and have never encountered this problem.
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Old 11th April 2014, 07:16   #19988  |  Link
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It has to in order to legally call itself a BD-3D player. Support for that format is required as a part of the BD standard.
I think these newer network media players with 3D playback don't actually carry a Bluray-license or logo. They have some 3D capabilities (MVC support listed in the specs). Probably as a consequence of that the ones I've researched (Mede8er, Himedia) don't support Java menus (only "Lite"-menus without Java). That's why I'm holding off on buying one.
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I think these newer network media players with 3D playback don't actually carry a Bluray-license or logo. They have some 3D capabilities (MVC support listed in the specs). Probably as a consequence of that the ones I've researched (Mede8er, Himedia) don't support Java menus (only "Lite"-menus without Java). That's why I'm holding off on buying one.
That's exactly the case with my Dune 3D. It doesn't support Blu-ray menus (Java) but only offers BD-Lite. I suspect that is due to the licensing costs. The Blu-ray "consortium" really screwed everyone on that.
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Old 11th April 2014, 14:50   #19990  |  Link
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- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4530, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD-RB vUNKNOWN, not current

scratching my head on this one. i have uninstalled bd and the other three programs many times over. i have been using this software for years now and have never encountered this problem.
Are you running INSPECT? I ask because it is no longer updated or included. The INSPECT report is included as a part of BD-RB. You access it under the HELP menu.
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That's exactly the case with my Dune 3D. It doesn't support Blu-ray menus (Java) but only offers BD-Lite. I suspect that is due to the licensing costs. The Blu-ray "consortium" really screwed everyone on that.
I'm sorry. But the software is called "BD" Rebuilder after all. Have you tried playing the M2TS file by itself?
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yes i was using inspect.. i did not realize it was part of the program itself now. the reason i posted that is because when i export an mkv and then rencode it back to bluray format the audio is not sync with the film.
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yes i was using inspect.. i did not realize it was part of the program itself now. the reason i posted that is because when i export an mkv and then rencode it back to bluray format the audio is not sync with the film.
Hmmm... I'll try a couple of movies and see if I get the same results. Has it happened on more than one?
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I'm sorry. But the software is called "BD" Rebuilder after all. Have you tried playing the M2TS file by itself?
Just tried to play the first of two m2ts files (00115.m2ts) from Alice in Wonderland. It would not play.
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Just tried to play the first of two m2ts files (00115.m2ts) from Alice in Wonderland. It would not play.
Two M2TS files? I assume it was a full backup?

It's interesting that it wouldn't play. The in-mux M2TS is exactly the same thing as a .ssif file. What version of BD-RB did you use to create it?
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Two M2TS files? I assume it was a full backup?

It's interesting that it wouldn't play. The in-mux M2TS is exactly the same thing as a .ssif file. What version of BD-RB did you use to create it?
Yes. Full backup.

Here are the INI and INF files for the build:

Is there something there I should change?

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Code:
[Options]
DTSX_ENABLE=1
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=23500
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=1
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
VERSION=0.47.0.4
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=12000
RESIZE_1440=0
DGDECNV=0
OUTPUT_3D=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=0
MULTIPROCESS=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=10
ALTCRF=20
ALT_TARGET=1024
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
MKV_CHAPTERS=1
MKV_MUXSUPS=1
FORCE_NOENCODE=0
RESIZE_720=0
NEROAAC=0
IGNORE_3D=0
FRIMSOURCE=1
OUTPUT_SBS=0
SUPTITLE=0
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=F:\BD_REBUILDER WORKFILES\
SOURCE_PATH=X:\
DirectShowMVCSource=D:\Utilities\BD_Rebuilder\Tools\stereoplayer.exe\DirectShowMVCSource.dll
INF

Code:
[Status]
LABEL=ALICE_IN_WONDERLAND3D
VERSION=v0.47.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=44661672883
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42371119104
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.527505118902795
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=4
DGDECNV=0
FRIMSOURCE=-1
SSIF_MODE=-1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=3
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00008]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=94154043
RATE=20556
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28482731
NSIZE=84019200
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00115]
AUDIO=1111111
PGS=11111111111111111
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=12166480964
RATE=17417
NSTART=27000000
NEND=184385353
NSIZE=11518476288
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00117]
AUDIO=1111111
PGS=11111111111111111
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=10090347215
RATE=16387
NSTART=27000000
NEND=162784398
NSIZE=9556285440
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
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Two M2TS files? I assume it was a full backup?

It's interesting that it wouldn't play. The in-mux M2TS is exactly the same thing as a .ssif file. What version of BD-RB did you use to create it?
Here's something interesting I noticed.

I have a movie-only of this I created on 4/6 that seems to play fine. I downloaded 47.03 on 3/29 and 47.04 on 4/7 so I am presuming I created it with 47.03. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what the INI and INF files contained for that build.

Update:

Just re-ran movie-only with 47.03 and it works ok. So it would appear that it is something that changed from 47.03 to 47.04 that is responsible.

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yes it, has done it on more than one. not sure when it started doing it.. it was fine last week. i don't if its a glitch in my system or what. i going to tackle it later today.. if you get the same results let me know. i have had issues in the past when it would resize the picture incorrectly.. but i fixed it by uninstalling everything and starting over from scratch.. and that using worked all the time
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Here's something interesting I noticed.

I have a movie-only of this I created on 4/6 that seems to play fine. I downloaded 47.03 on 3/29 and 47.04 on 4/7 so I am presuming I created it with 47.03. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what the INI and INF files contained for that build.

Update:

Just re-ran movie-only with 47.03 and it works ok. So it would appear that it is something that changed from 47.03 to 47.04 that is responsible.
If you set OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1 in the config/ini file, you will get the exact same output as previous versions for movie-only encodes.

If you set FORCE_INMUX_3D=0 in the INI you should get the same output you would have gotten from v0.47.03 (an out-of-mux build).
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i got everything working correctly again no more audio out of sync issues with the mkv imports. all i did was uninstall all the programs including bd-rebuilder and started over from scratch. i believe ffdshow was the problem. i am straight now thanks for your help jdobbs.
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