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Old 4th June 2011, 14:00   #3621  |  Link
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Ok, try this version. It should fix the DTS-HD MA thing, i hope.

http://files.1f0.de/lavf/LAVFilters-0.28-6-g151e36c.zip
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Old 4th June 2011, 14:08   #3622  |  Link
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ha, never noticed it before (only have 2 DTS-HD MA sources), but yes, it appears to fixed.
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Old 4th June 2011, 14:24   #3623  |  Link
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Ok, try this version. It should fix the DTS-HD MA thing, i hope.

http://files.1f0.de/lavf/LAVFilters-0.28-6-g151e36c.zip

Yep, that's fixed it. Channels are both 6 / 0x3f now, before the output was different.

The service around here is terrible...
That fix took almost an hour
Another 9 minutes and you'd have had to deliver it for free


Thanks nev!

(I did have a couple of strange audio sync issues in the movie tonight - it mysteriously glitched and went out of sync by few seconds. It could be something else in my convoluted playback chain, I'll keep an ear on it....if it happens again I'll hunt down how to generate a log, I missed that bit.)
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here is the output of mplayer with that Portuguese .ts sample

Code:
MPlayer Sherpya-SVN-r33488-4.2.5 (C) 2000-2011 MPlayer Team
Setting process priority: abovenormal

163 audio & 368 video codecs

Playing C:\SAMPLE~3.TS.
TS file format detected.
PROGRAM_ID=59200 (0xE740), PMT_PID: 257(0x101)
PROGRAM_ID=59224 (0xE758), PMT_PID: 8136(0x1FC8)
PROGRAM_ID=59200 (0xE740), PMT_PID: 257(0x101)
PROGRAM_ID=59224 (0xE758), PMT_PID: 8136(0x1FC8)
PROGRAM_ID=59200 (0xE740), PMT_PID: 257(0x101)
PROGRAM_ID=59224 (0xE758), PMT_PID: 8136(0x1FC8)
PROGRAM_ID=59200 (0xE740), PMT_PID: 257(0x101)
PROGRAM_ID=59224 (0xE758), PMT_PID: 8136(0x1FC8)
PROGRAM_ID=59200 (0xE740), PMT_PID: 257(0x101)
PROGRAM_ID=59224 (0xE758), PMT_PID: 8136(0x1FC8)
PROGRAM_ID=59200 (0xE740), PMT_PID: 257(0x101)
PROGRAM_ID=59224 (0xE758), PMT_PID: 8136(0x1FC8)
PROGRAM_ID=59200 (0xE740), PMT_PID: 257(0x101)
PROGRAM_ID=59224 (0xE758), PMT_PID: 8136(0x1FC8)
PROGRAM_ID=59200 (0xE740), PMT_PID: 257(0x101)
PROGRAM_ID=59224 (0xE758), PMT_PID: 8136(0x1FC8)
PROGRAM_ID=59200 (0xE740), PMT_PID: 257(0x101)
PROGRAM_ID=59224 (0xE758), PMT_PID: 8136(0x1FC8)
PROGRAM_ID=59200 (0xE740), PMT_PID: 257(0x101)
PROGRAM_ID=59224 (0xE758), PMT_PID: 8136(0x1FC8)
VIDEO H264(pid=273) AUDIO AAC LATM(pid=274) NO SUBS (yet)!  PROGRAM N. 59200
ID_VIDEO_ID=273
ID_AUDIO_ID=274
ID_VIDEO_ID=529
ID_AUDIO_ID=275
PROGRAM_ID=59200 (0xE740), PMT_PID: 257(0x101)
PROGRAM_ID=59224 (0xE758), PMT_PID: 8136(0x1FC8)
ID_AUDIO_ID=530
FPS seems to be: 29.970030
Load subtitles in C:\
ID_FILENAME=C:\SAMPLE~3.TS
ID_DEMUXER=mpegts
ID_VIDEO_FORMAT=0x10000005
ID_VIDEO_BITRATE=0
ID_VIDEO_WIDTH=1920
ID_VIDEO_HEIGHT=1088
ID_VIDEO_FPS=29.970
ID_VIDEO_ASPECT=0.0000
ID_AUDIO_FORMAT=MP4L
ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=0
ID_AUDIO_RATE=0
ID_AUDIO_NCH=0
ID_START_TIME=169.47
ID_LENGTH=0.00
ID_SEEKABLE=1
ID_CHAPTERS=0
Opening video filter: [ass auto=1]
[ass] auto-open
Opening video filter: [screenshot]
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264)
==========================================================================
ID_VIDEO_CODEC=ffh264
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 0.0 kbit/0.00% (ratio: 0->192000)
ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=0
ID_AUDIO_RATE=48000
ID_AUDIO_NCH=2
Selected audio codec: [fflatm] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg AAC in LATM)
==========================================================================
AO: [dsound] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
ID_AUDIO_CODEC=fflatm
Starting playback...
no issues, but yeah pretty much every other demuxer has issues with this (including lav splitter + lav audio decoder no sound)

Another stream which shows the audiodamaged.ts issue of fast playing back ghostly (DivX AAC Decoder) but this time audio seems to be not damaged @ all ? (this one also works with mplayer)

Upload in progress...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BPADC18B
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Old 4th June 2011, 16:50   #3625  |  Link
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My question was missed some days ago:
I'd like to bitstream DTS-HD, but not DTS. Is it possible ? Will it be possible ? Or it is not recommended ?

Why do I ask this ? I prefer to send PCM rather than non-decoded signals to my preamp. And as you know, it's possible to decode DTS by software, whereas DTS-HD, it's quite impossible (TMT hard manipulation which does not work well).
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Its not possible, and I have no concrete plans to make it possible. I'll let someone else explain that using the TMT decoder is actually super easy.
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Old 4th June 2011, 16:58   #3627  |  Link
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You mean the "drop the dtsdecoderdll.dll from a tmt installation into the LAV filter folder" instructions? Right, um, that's very difficult. You know, with the copying, and pasting and the automagic way in which LAV Audio then just decides to use it without any configuration or effort on the user's part at all. What a PITA!
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"drop the dtsdecoderdll.dll from a tmt installation into the LAV filter folder"

Maybe this should be added to the first post of this thread? I have a feeling it's just going to come up over and over and......
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSFdgwZZVOE

Windows 8 running on quad-core Nvidia Tegra Kal-El SoC decoding HD video using Media Foundation API. It would be nice if LAV Splitter has MF support on both x86 and ARM since Kal-El has a decoder that can decode High Profile 1440p. WMP is after all the first player to ever support MF, long before WinDVD 2010.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4181/n...ts-this-year/3

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NVIDIA's video decoder gets an upgrade in Kal-El to support H.264 at 40Mbps sustained (60Mbps peak) at a resolution of 2560 x 1440. This meets the bandwidth requirements for full Blu-ray disc playback. NVIDIA didn't just make the claim however, it showed us a 50Mbps 1440p H.264 stream decoded and output to two screens simultaneously: a 2560 x 1600 30" desktop PC monitor and a 1366 x 768 tablet display.

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Windows 8 running on quad-core Nvidia Tegra Kal-El SoC decoding HD video using Media Foundation API. It would be nice if LAV Splitter has MF support on both x86 and ARM since Kal-El has a decoder that can decode High Profile 1440p. WMP is after all the first player to ever support MF, long before WinDVD 2010.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4181/n...ts-this-year/3
Hehe so maybe the next Boxxe then, though Annandtech was also very friendly with Tegra and later the disaster happened, though Nvidia can't risk such a epic fail again vs Intel
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This doesn't say that it won't support DirectShow.

Anyhow, how often do i have to repeat it:
You cannot just "add Media Foundation support"! On the splitters side, Media Foundation is fundamentally different to DirectShow, so its a whole new component to be developed!
The same is more or less true for decoders, btw.

There is DirectShow, and there is Media Foundation. There is no overlap! (except DMO decoders, those can be used by both)
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Maybe this should be added to the first post of this thread? I have a feeling it's just going to come up over and over and......
I'm setting up some actual page on my webserver right now, which will get some sort of mini-manual for this.

LAV Filters and LAV CUVID have been gaining alot of traction the last few weeks, and its only going to get "worse", so i wanted some resources other then a forum thread for people to read.

You can checkout my WIP on http://1f0.de/

If someone wants to contribute some content, or has some ideas what i should put up there, you're welcome to it.
I kinda need a new banner for the page, stupid default thing.

I need to post some more recent News, though.
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LAVFilters 0.28 breaks playback of mpg files in mplay32

Hello,

I had a problem with LAVFilters 0.28 on Windows XP SP3 32-bit. It seems that LAVFilters breaks playback of MPEG-1 (mpg) files with the MCI API. When I tried to play a mpg file with mplay32.exe the player just hanged. I don't need the player itself, but MCI is used by other applications and that's important. After uninstalling LAVFilters mplay32 could play the mpg file.
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MCI has been deprecated for a decade, if you still require such ancient stuff to work, you should probably not mix it with modern software.

Anyhow, if you want anything fixed, you need to provide more then "it doesnt work". A sample file maybe, and if that file works in WMP, and stuff like that.
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I have tried many mpg files and mplay32 always hanged. It's the playback of mpg files that is broken. All of the files work Windows Media Player. And they work in mplay32 when LAVFilters is uninstalled.

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Its not possible, and I have no concrete plans to make it possible. I'll let someone else explain that using the TMT decoder is actually super easy.
Ok.
I've tried the Arcsoft's dll solution (1.1.0.7), but it did not work (output 48kHz, 16 bits - 8 channels yet ) and if it worked, I would need Reclock for WASAPI, as I don't output 96kHz, 24 bits when using DirectSound.
So I prefer to keep the bitstream solution which automatically triggers WASAPI.

For DTS, I would have preferred Directshow. But I understand it's not important to you, and I don't ask you to implement it. It's just my point why I wanted DTS-HD bitstream only.

Keep up with your very good work.
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So what's the reason to prefer decoding DTS, if you like bitstreaming DTS-HD?
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Yea, I'm confused, too. If you're converting DTS to PCM, yet bitstreaming DTS-HD MA, why not just bitstream both?
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DTS is 16 bits and <48kHz, I can use directsound volume (windows volume).
Yes, I've settled Windows to through out 48kHz and 16 bits, it avoids problems with my preamp (AV need some delay to sync/catch 24 bits or 92 kHz).

So I let all 24bits or 92kHz stuff (Blu-Ray or DVD-Audio in general) to WASAPI.

But of course, I can bitstream DTS to my preamp... That's just that I don't have Windows volume control...
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Fair enough. But if you decode DTS-HD MA with the ArcSoft decoder using Nev's LAV Audio, it should also get sent out through Windows Audio. Meaning it will downsample to 48/16 and whatever speaker config you have set. That's not a decoder issue. That's Windows Audio doing that.
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