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Old 30th March 2014, 00:15   #19721  |  Link
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Hi, after backing up Madagascar 3, region B, on BD 25, picture stopps at about 55:40 while audio is playing on. When I burn the movie unprocessed to BD 50, I get a small glitch at the same position but then, video and audio keep on playing well. Can this be a layer break issue?
No, more like bad rip or fault in original.

1. Re-rip disc and see if it goes away.
2. If above does not try different player to see if it is there.
3. If yes for 2, change it.
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Old 30th March 2014, 00:18   #19722  |  Link
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No, it's not a layer break issue; it's a bad rip. All you can do is to try cleaning the disc and re-ripping it. Standalone players are designed to ignore little problems like that from a bad disc surface, but re-encoding algorythms on a PC can't do that. It's possible for them to just create a momentary pixelated image, but it is quite common for the video to hang while the audio continues.

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Hi, after backing up Madagascar 3, region B, on BD 25, picture stopps at about 55:40 while audio is playing on. When I burn the movie unprocessed to BD 50, I get a small glitch at the same position but then, video and audio keep on playing well. Can this be a layer break issue?
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Old 30th March 2014, 00:22   #19723  |  Link
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Well, of course I have done several rips which all gave me exactly the same result. I tested the issue on the two stand alone players I have. The original BD is playing fine.
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Old 30th March 2014, 00:26   #19724  |  Link
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If you've got a scratch on the disc surface then you'll likely get a glitch every time at the same spot. At any rate, it's not a layer break issue.

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Well, of course I have done several rips which all gave me exactly the same result. I tested the issue on the two stand alone players I have. The original BD is playing fine.
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Old 30th March 2014, 00:27   #19725  |  Link
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Well, of course I have done several rips which all gave me exactly the same result. I tested the issue on the two stand alone players I have. The original BD is playing fine.
That doesn't really prove anything. I have several Blu-ray drives and some of them glitch during playback while stand-alone players play the same discs just fine.
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Old 30th March 2014, 00:31   #19726  |  Link
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Ok, so I will have to try to get a good rip somehow.
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Old 30th March 2014, 00:35   #19727  |  Link
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Hi, after backing up Madagascar 3, region B, on BD 25, picture stopps at about 55:40 while audio is playing on. When I burn the movie unprocessed to BD 50, I get a small glitch at the same position but then, video and audio keep on playing well. Can this be a layer break issue?
There's no layer break on a BD-25. If you get a glitch at that same place with a BD-50 backup, there is an error in the source.
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K Thanks jdobbs. As my system predates the i series ill stick with the software coding defaults :-)

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Old 30th March 2014, 00:44   #19729  |  Link
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There's no layer break on a BD-25. If you get a glitch at that same place with a BD-50 backup, there is an error in the source.
Absolutely true, I was thinking that there maybe could be some layer break issue regarding the original BD-50.
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Absolutely true, I was thinking that there maybe could be some layer break issue regarding the original BD-50.
BD-50s have two layers, and it has to change between them, but there isn't a "layer break" in the same sense as what you may be thinking of in a DVD. You'll never see a pause of hiccup at the change like you might on a DVD.
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Old 30th March 2014, 00:52   #19731  |  Link
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Ah, ok, thanks for the information.
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Old 30th March 2014, 00:56   #19732  |  Link
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Ohh-kay, first encode job finished on 0.47.03. Unfortunately it ended in an error message:

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One or more reencoded files (00052.m2ts) are missing. Cannot complete the REBUILD process.
Code:
[03.29.14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.03 (beta)
[21:49:51] Source:  KHUMBA
  - Input BD size: 35,35 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:58:20.843]
  - Target BD size: 22,95 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - Quality: Highest (Very Slow), ABR
  - Output folder: M:\_ENCODES\
  - MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
  - Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[21:49:57] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [21:49:57] Processing: VID_00006 (1 of 11)
 - [21:49:57] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 122*712 frames
   - Bitrate: 25*211 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [21:49:57] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:27:00] Video Encode complete
 - [01:27:00] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
   - Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:27:00] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:35:47] Blanking: VID_00012 (2 of 11)
 - [01:35:47] Processing: VID_00014 (3 of 11)
 - [01:35:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
 - [01:36:27] Reencoding video [VID_00014]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 10*032 frames
   - Bitrate: 26*313 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:36:27] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:38:54] Video Encode complete
 - [01:38:54] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
 - [01:38:57] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:39:33] Scanning for 3D CLPI info...
 - [01:39:47] Processing: VID_00037 (4 of 11)
 - [01:39:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00037]
 - [01:39:53] Reencoding video [VID_00037]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 470 frames
   - Bitrate: 16*528 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:39:53] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:40:00] Video Encode complete
 - [01:40:00] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:40:00] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:40:04] Processing: VID_00043 (5 of 11)
 - [01:40:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00043]
 - [01:40:16] Reencoding video [VID_00043]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2*976 frames
   - Bitrate: 19*173 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:40:16] Reencoding: VID_00043, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:41:00] Video Encode complete
 - [01:41:00] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:41:00] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:41:07] Processing: VID_00046 (6 of 11)
 - [01:41:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00046]
 - [01:41:24] Reencoding video [VID_00046]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 4*147 frames
   - Bitrate: 19*170 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:41:24] Reencoding: VID_00046, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:42:24] Video Encode complete
 - [01:42:24] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:42:24] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:42:33] Processing: VID_00064 (7 of 11)
 - [01:42:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00064]
 - [01:42:37] Reencoding video [VID_00064]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 144 frames
   - Bitrate: 19*356 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:42:37] Reencoding: VID_00064, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:42:40] Video Encode complete
 - [01:42:40] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:42:40] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:42:43] Blanking: VID_00066 (8 of 11)
 - [01:42:43] Processing: VID_00068 (9 of 11)
 - [01:42:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00068]
 - [01:43:52] Reencoding video [VID_00068]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 14*202 frames
   - Bitrate: 19*181 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:43:52] Reencoding: VID_00068, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:47:18] Video Encode complete
 - [01:47:18] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:47:18] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:47:55] Processing: VID_00070 (10 of 11)
 - [01:47:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00070]
 - [01:48:10] Reencoding video [VID_00070]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3*598 frames
   - Bitrate: 19*186 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:48:10] Reencoding: VID_00070, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:49:03] Video Encode complete
 - [01:49:03] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:49:03] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:49:13] Processing: VID_00072 (11 of 11)
 - [01:49:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00072]
 - [01:49:27] Reencoding video [VID_00072]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3*094 frames
   - Bitrate: 19*181 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:49:27] Reencoding: VID_00072, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:50:13] Video Encode complete
 - [01:50:13] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:50:13] Multiplexing M2TS
[01:50:23]PHASE ONE complete
[01:50:23]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [01:50:23] Converting SSIF file references
 - [01:50:38] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[01:57:03] - Failed to REBUILD
Timestamp skips suddenly at one point when I noticed Windows' clock was a few hours off and fixed it.

There are no files beginning with 00052 in the WORKFILES directory. VID_00012 and VID_00066 were blanked manually.

BDRB's Stream window does not list a VID_00052 but there is a 00052.m2ts (stereo, 213MB) on disc.

Could this have happened because I resumed an earlier encoding job which stopped at FRIMEncoder crashing?
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Old 30th March 2014, 02:00   #19733  |  Link
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this wolverine on ly got 45 min left so ill see what i can do after its done
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Old 30th March 2014, 02:15   #19734  |  Link
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Ran another encode, again with hardware decode/encode. FRIMEncoder behaved well, but job ended in the same error message as the previous one. It's again complaining about a missing 00052.m2ts. This time I made sure to start from scratch instead of resuming.

Looks to me like BDRB was not building a full backup, in fact. A lot of non-blanked files are missing from WORKFILES and from the partially-completed output.
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Old 30th March 2014, 02:31   #19735  |  Link
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for the mvc encodeing does it matter if you put abr or cr on with one pass as i got mine on high speed 25? with both unticked
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Old 30th March 2014, 02:38   #19736  |  Link
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no mate sorry i got bit confusse its been a long day . ok so bios from when i restart pc . i built it myslef mate
in that case you can definitely enable it
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Old 30th March 2014, 02:47   #19737  |  Link
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thanx for the info. is it not working for you tho at the moment with bdrebuilder?
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Old 30th March 2014, 03:06   #19738  |  Link
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Ohh-kay, first encode job finished on 0.47.03. Unfortunately it ended in an error message:

Code:
One or more reencoded files (00052.m2ts) are missing. Cannot complete the REBUILD process.
Code:
[03.29.14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.03 (beta)
[21:49:51] Source:  KHUMBA
  - Input BD size: 35,35 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:58:20.843]
  - Target BD size: 22,95 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - Quality: Highest (Very Slow), ABR
  - Output folder: M:\_ENCODES\
  - MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
  - Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[21:49:57] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [21:49:57] Processing: VID_00006 (1 of 11)
 - [21:49:57] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 122*712 frames
   - Bitrate: 25*211 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [21:49:57] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:27:00] Video Encode complete
 - [01:27:00] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
   - Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:27:00] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:35:47] Blanking: VID_00012 (2 of 11)
 - [01:35:47] Processing: VID_00014 (3 of 11)
 - [01:35:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
 - [01:36:27] Reencoding video [VID_00014]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 10*032 frames
   - Bitrate: 26*313 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:36:27] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:38:54] Video Encode complete
 - [01:38:54] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
 - [01:38:57] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:39:33] Scanning for 3D CLPI info...
 - [01:39:47] Processing: VID_00037 (4 of 11)
 - [01:39:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00037]
 - [01:39:53] Reencoding video [VID_00037]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 470 frames
   - Bitrate: 16*528 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:39:53] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:40:00] Video Encode complete
 - [01:40:00] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:40:00] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:40:04] Processing: VID_00043 (5 of 11)
 - [01:40:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00043]
 - [01:40:16] Reencoding video [VID_00043]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2*976 frames
   - Bitrate: 19*173 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:40:16] Reencoding: VID_00043, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:41:00] Video Encode complete
 - [01:41:00] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:41:00] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:41:07] Processing: VID_00046 (6 of 11)
 - [01:41:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00046]
 - [01:41:24] Reencoding video [VID_00046]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 4*147 frames
   - Bitrate: 19*170 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:41:24] Reencoding: VID_00046, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:42:24] Video Encode complete
 - [01:42:24] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:42:24] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:42:33] Processing: VID_00064 (7 of 11)
 - [01:42:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00064]
 - [01:42:37] Reencoding video [VID_00064]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 144 frames
   - Bitrate: 19*356 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:42:37] Reencoding: VID_00064, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:42:40] Video Encode complete
 - [01:42:40] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:42:40] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:42:43] Blanking: VID_00066 (8 of 11)
 - [01:42:43] Processing: VID_00068 (9 of 11)
 - [01:42:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00068]
 - [01:43:52] Reencoding video [VID_00068]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 14*202 frames
   - Bitrate: 19*181 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:43:52] Reencoding: VID_00068, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:47:18] Video Encode complete
 - [01:47:18] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:47:18] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:47:55] Processing: VID_00070 (10 of 11)
 - [01:47:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00070]
 - [01:48:10] Reencoding video [VID_00070]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3*598 frames
   - Bitrate: 19*186 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:48:10] Reencoding: VID_00070, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:49:03] Video Encode complete
 - [01:49:03] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:49:03] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [01:49:13] Processing: VID_00072 (11 of 11)
 - [01:49:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00072]
 - [01:49:27] Reencoding video [VID_00072]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3*094 frames
   - Bitrate: 19*181 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [01:49:27] Reencoding: VID_00072, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:50:13] Video Encode complete
 - [01:50:13] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [01:50:13] Multiplexing M2TS
[01:50:23]PHASE ONE complete
[01:50:23]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [01:50:23] Converting SSIF file references
 - [01:50:38] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[01:57:03] - Failed to REBUILD
Timestamp skips suddenly at one point when I noticed Windows' clock was a few hours off and fixed it.

There are no files beginning with 00052 in the WORKFILES directory. VID_00012 and VID_00066 were blanked manually.

BDRB's Stream window does not list a VID_00052 but there is a 00052.m2ts (stereo, 213MB) on disc.

Could this have happened because I resumed an earlier encoding job which stopped at FRIMEncoder crashing?
Please don't blank anything. Let's test it first before making it complicated and difficult to debug.
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Old 30th March 2014, 03:14   #19739  |  Link
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i have just dont wolverine from 3d iso to full backup 3d bd25 in power dvd it was all good im just gonna burn it and test in my player
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@ jdobbs. all done mate it took 6 hours and works perfect plays in my player perfect then menu and everything . great work . now im gonna do the hobbit 2. ill keep u posted once again thanx
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