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7th December 2017, 18:17 | #47561 | Link |
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I am not using reclock and I am not using Bluesky FRC.
I think you should not use reclock for your RX 550. Bluesky FRC is a better alternative. You must add Bluesky FRC to the external filters in mpc be/hc or potplayer. EDIT: And you need to turn on AMD Fluid Motion Video in the driver. Does your TV/projector/monitor support 23 Hz? If it does than don't use any tools. Let the RX 550 do it. This is what I use. Last edited by HillieSan; 7th December 2017 at 18:28. |
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ok thanks very much for confirming, in that case something must be wrong with my setup, without reclock MADVR is locked to frame drops every 40 seconds almost bang on in everything, 4k and 1080p material.
could you help with the below? - can you post your list of display modes in MADVR - what do you have ticked in MADVR rendering page? - have you tweaked anything from stock MADVR anywhere in rendering or anything relevant anywhere else? - which media player are you using? - what interval is CONTROL J showing in between dropped frames / repeated frames exactly, can you post a screen shot? |
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First I need to know your display to see what settings you need. Last edited by HillieSan; 7th December 2017 at 19:58. |
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In the meantime I give you some of my settings :-) It wrote them here as 5 different steps. I hope that this will help. ------------------------------------------------------------- STEP 1 -- Windows -- Delete reclock. Update Windows and drivers. STEP 2 -- LAV 0.70.2.80-- Hardware Decoder to use: D3D11 Hardware Device to use: Automatic (Native) Software Deinterlacing Algorithm: No Software Deinterlacing STEP 3 -- MADVR 0.92.9 -- devices->display->display modes-> [v] switch to match display mode... (0) .. when playback starts the rest is unticked or empty processing->artifact removal-> all unticked processing->image enhancements-> all unticked scaling algorithms->chroma upscaling-> only Jinc ticked scaling algorithms->image downscaling-> only SSIM ticked and set to '1D-strength 100%' scaling algorithms->image upscaling-> option NGU Sharp is ticked and algoritm quality set to 'high', all other options are set to 'let madVR decide' Note: I think you should set algoritm quality to 'medium' scaling algorithms->upscaling refinement-> all unticked rendering->general settings-> [v] delay playback start until render queue is full [v] use Direct3D 11 for presentation (Windows 7 and newer) [v]present a frame for every VSync all other options are uniticked CPU queue size: 16 GPU queue size: 8 rendering->windows mode-> [v] present several frames in advanced all default rendering->exclusive mode-> all default Note: I read here in forum that a buffer of 4 is better than 8 in order to avoid FSE black screen problem. I must test this. rendering->smooth rendering-> unticked rendering->dithering-> (0) Ordered Dithering [v] use colored noise [v] change dither for every frame trade quality for performance-> all unticked STEP 4 -- Player -- I use the MPC BR player. In Options->Externe Filter add [v] LAV Splitter [v] LAV Video Decoder [v] LAV Audio Decoder [v] LAC Splitter Source [v] madVR All these filters are set to highest priority. This works the same for MPC HC and Potplayer. Note: If you use Bluesky FRC then you must also add this as a filter here. Set it to the highest priority and move it above madVR filter. Bluesky FRC must be put before mapVR. STEP 5 -- Notes -- If you start MPC BE or if you change the slider bar in MPC BE then you will see some frame drops or repeats in crtl-J. that is normal. If you set LAV, madVR and MPC BE as above and you still exprience judder then it is time to look at your display. You can assume that the chain above is doing it right, but the display may need some minor adjustments as well (like enabling the motion anhancer). This would be the last step. Last edited by HillieSan; 7th December 2017 at 19:52. |
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wow, cheers, i'll dial these in when i get home from work and get back to you. edit - you are doing a lot of processing and shapening / deblacking here, these settings ruin my picture, I tend to have all this off as most of my stuff is 1080p and 4k, also by ticking all of the trade quality for performance boxes arent you degrading your image? is there a reason you are using lav .80 instead of the latest 82? Last edited by mclingo; 7th December 2017 at 20:17. |
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Evening, in the section i posted the screenshot below, i always used NGU Sharp with luma doubling setted to high. All the rest let madvr decide.
Yesterday i saw a youtube video where the user suggested to use these settings, what do you think? I'm not expert so i'm testing: https://postimg.org/image/nis3mwkjv/ Another question, if i use Ctrl J during video, i can see that my monitor frequency is 59,9 or something similar. Never 60. Is this right this way?
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fixed it... swapped 1080p24 for 1080p23 and now i'm back to hours without a frame drop, i've never has to use this before, must be something with latest versions or fall update, i've only ever used 24p display mode prior to this. I need to test this further though.
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Is it safe to say that with the latest madVR version one can get 10bit output without using FSE?
I tried with both D3D11 exclusive and D3D11 fullscreen windowed and I believe both are the same. Is it true? I don't know how to really interpret the OSD. Need you help. Thanks in advance Nuno
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Hi, I dont see any difference either, again possible due to the fact all my movies are self ripped from blurays as remuxes, I prefer my movies on hard disk for quick access.
I had a go with FRC, its great at movement but it glitches now and again, not too often but I prefer zero glitches. My main issue with it is that it softens the picture too much for me and there are artifacts. I have an LG 65 inch OLED, the tru motion on that is actually pretty good for smoothing video, on option 4 i get just the right amount of smoothing with only a tiny loss in sharpness which I make up using super RES on the TV anyway. One thing I have learnt of the last few weeks though, if your HTPC is working well, disabled all updates and leave it the sh1t alone I used to be a big PC gamer, used to spend hundreds on cards every year and always had problems and there was always some faffing about, never looked back since I moved to PS4 pro now, I was never a multiplayer gamer anyway and the uncharted series is by far the best set of games ever created, obviously IMHO. |
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