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Old 19th September 2021, 16:44   #30901  |  Link
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Yes, it has a separate DV track with matching frame rate (59.94 fps)
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Old 19th September 2021, 18:45   #30902  |  Link
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Here's the mediainfo of the video section of Gemini Man' biggest m2ts

Code:
Video #1
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 5180 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 1577 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
And here's the output of BDRB
Code:
Video #1
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 5180 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 1577 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
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Old 19th September 2021, 19:02   #30903  |  Link
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My backed-up copy of Gemini Man looks like this: -

Code:
General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : \\SYNOLOGY_NAS\My HD Movies\UHD Movies\Gemini Man [2019] 117mins [59.940fps]\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 77.3 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 94.5 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mb/s

Video #1
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 5180 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 1577 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2

Audio #1
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : MLP FBA AC-3 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Format settings                          : Dolby Surround EX
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 7 944 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossless
Stream size                              : 536 MiB (1%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 11
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

Audio #2
ID                                       : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -8 ms
Stream size                              : 536 MiB (1%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main

Text #1
ID                                       : 4768 (0x12A0)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : PGS
Codec ID                                 : 144

Text #2
ID                                       : 4769 (0x12A1)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : PGS
Codec ID                                 : 144
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Old 19th September 2021, 22:13   #30904  |  Link
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Well, that throws that theory out of the window.
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Old 20th September 2021, 22:18   #30905  |  Link
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Well, that throws that theory out of the window.
Was it something that had to be imported? I'd have to check, but I don't think importing would support a 59.94fps 1080p or 2160p source.

Also, while 59.94fps may be supported as a coincidence of the long-existing support for 59.94fps/720p (and probably the same for 50fps), I'm sure 60fps wouldn't be -- because it was never a part of the original BD standard.
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Old 20th September 2021, 22:30   #30906  |  Link
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The pictures below are borrowed from The Authoritative Blu-ray Disc (BD) FAQ.

The first table shows the formats that have always been supported. The second shows what is supported in HEVC format.
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Old 24th September 2021, 16:27   #30907  |  Link
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I just finished an import (imported just the main m2ts from Gemini Man) and that also worked fine. Didn't try it in the player yet, but at least BDRB did not complain.

As mentioned, 59.94 fps is working, even if by coincidence.
The 60fps from the demo disc on the other hand seem to break things
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Old 30th September 2021, 15:48   #30908  |  Link
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BD Rebuilder v0.61.25

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the most recent version (v0.61.25) of BD Rebuilder. Changes for this release:
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- Added a hidden option IMPORT_LIMIT_LANG
  that ignores import of audio/video tracks
  that aren't in your selected list (SETUP).
  This can significantly speed up import
  when a large number of audio/subtitle 
  tracks exist.
- Fixed an issue that could result in slight
  aspect ratio issues when padding a 1080p
  image and then converting to 720p via the
  SETUP option.
- Fixed an error that could cause timed text
  subtitles (in MP4 files) to not be kept as
  SRT during import.
- Added two new hidden options for control
  of Menus. MENU_PREVNEXT_X sets the screen
  X position of Prev/Next. MENU_PREVNEXT_Y
  sets the screen Y position of Prev/Next.
  See HIDDENOPTS.TXT for more info.
- Added new hidden option MENU_PAGE_ENABLE,
  if set to 0, menu page number text will not
  be displayed on Quick-Play menus.
- Modified the VFR detection algorithm during
  import to prevent unnecessary reencode.
- Modified the method for reencoding E-AC3
  files that are imported.  Some systems and
  sources had randomly experienced channel
  count discrepancies in the old method.
- Corrected code to adjust padding sizing 
  (when present) to accommodate resizing 
  an imported source when using NVENCC.
- Added code to recognize forced subtitles
  during video file import, and set those 
  subtitles to enabled (by default) in the
  pseudo-BD structure.
- Updated MKVMERGE.EXE and MKVEXTRACT.EXE
  with newest version (v60.0.0).  Fixes rare
  error associated with importing SRT files.
- Updated NVENCC.EXE to newer version 5.35.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.
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I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the most recent version (v0.61.25) of BD Rebuilder. Changes for this release:
Code:
- Added two new hidden options for control
  of Menus. MENU_PREVNEXT_X sets the screen
  X position of Prev/Next. MENU_PREVNEXT_Y
  sets the screen Y position of Prev/Next.
  See HIDDENOPTS.TXT for more info.
- Added new hidden option MENU_PAGE_ENABLE,
  if set to 0, menu page number text will not
  be displayed on Quick-Play menus.
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Another THANK YOU for the update and the hard work for v0.61.25!!!
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Another THANK YOU for the update and the hard work for v0.61.25!!!
I second the motion

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Old 3rd October 2021, 08:18   #30914  |  Link
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hello, bdrebuilder use more CPU or ram?
Bdrebuilder use CPU single core or more core?

the CPU better high frequency single core or lower but more cores?

For upgrade pc

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Old 3rd October 2021, 11:11   #30915  |  Link
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Encoders inside are x264, x265, NVEnc, BDRebuilder controls these.
For processor/encoder comparisons you may want to look up cinebench etc.
What CPU/GPU you give to them follows your personal speed/price ratio.
More CPU or RAM ?...you need both. 16GB RAM should be ok.
Single core CPU: Are there any left in that range at all ?
6c12t would be a good starting point.
My results with Intel CPUs, all on notebooks (I had no AMD so far):
2004: T7600G (2c2t 2,33..3,16Ghz) x264 first steps ok, slow but pristine
2009: i7-940XM (4c8t 2,13GHz..3GHz) x264 working medium speed possible, x265 just for short tests
2014: i7-4960X (6c12t 1,2..3,7..4,1GHz) x264 with beautiful speed, x265 working medium speed well possible.
BTW, I do not suggest my personal approach to have all that squeezed into a notebook,
it will cost you a premium, and proper cooling asks for a thick desktop replacement.
All those CPUs are obsolete now, almost any recent CPU is faster (Ultra-low-Power CPUs excluded)
Multicore/ highclock CPUs are welcome, but I wouldn't suggest spending top money for THE top clock,
one below is still sufficient. Expect Clock to be throttled down with many full-load threads, TDP demands it.
Expect to give the best cooling system and the best PSU.
You need a CPU with AVX, better AVX2.
AVX512 would be H.265-valuable, but often outside of a private budget (Server CPUs).
Expect thermal throttling to be kicking in on AVX512 load with early generation AVX512 CPUs,
so no real gain to spend on that feature.
GPUs (1060 upwards with B-frames):
quality seems to lack a bit behind CPU, but are reported to be blazingly fast.
All these factors come with new chipsets and motherboards, so after all
encoding speeds are rarely improved by upgrade of an existing system,
but by purchase of a new system.
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Old 3rd October 2021, 18:00   #30916  |  Link
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Can you tell me a type of CPU, Mb, ram, psu and cooling System and gpu?
Budget 400€
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For example this pc 1 year life is good for 400€ for bdrebuilder?

Vga integrated in cpu 3400

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* Cpu Ryzen 5 3400g 4x 3.7ghz Turbo (4,2ghz) so am4 65 Watt - ebay powerseller nuovo 02/12/2020
* MEMORIA RAM G.SKILL AEGIS KIT16GB 2X8GB DDR4 3200MHz CL16 F4-3200C16D-16GIS - powerseller ebay nuovo 07/12/2020
* SSD NVME Crucial P5 500 GB CT500P5SSD8 SSD Interno-Fino a 3400 MB/s, 3D NAND, NVMe, PCIe, M.2, 2280SS
* Alimentatore di rete be quiet! System Power 9 400 W modulare 80+ Bronzo - Amazon.it 12/01/2021
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Although I am not going through the specs now, and give no guarantee on a ebay puchase, this should be good to go.
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I can buy this pc in forum
No scam

But i ask to you if this pc can be good for male backup 4k in bd25

Thanks
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Well, you are talking about a used PC with a middleclass Ryzen 5 and a 400W PSU
It may work for you, but I would not shell out 400€ for that, this config is 500.-€ new.
Put 80% weight on CPU, its supply (PSU) and waste disposal (cooler).
As a ballpark figure I had invested tenfold most of the time for top notch *and portable* en.coding, but that is just me.
You might maybe give myself a budget lift to 800, go for a 800W PSU and study CPU encoding comparisons well laid out, you may search.

As an example, just one of many:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...eon-comparison
and we are getting OT here, this belongs to Hardware discussions...
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