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Old 19th November 2016, 16:08   #40281  |  Link
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excuse my ignorance as I turn off ShowRenderSteps
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Old 19th November 2016, 16:22   #40282  |  Link
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Do you have an Optimus system?

Do you have any 3rd party software running which might also access the GPU, like f.lux, FRAPS, GpuZ or something like that? Or maybe some sort of debugger or something?

No 3rd party software, no flux, fraps or gpu-z. No optimus.
Gtx1070 latest driver
Latest version of lavfilter,mpc-hc
Windows10 64bits V1607

What i don't understand, is that it worked first try on my htpc (gtx960)even without the madVR91b.rar fix but not on my editing pc(gtx1070).
And my htpc has the same windows/software in it.
On my gtx960, i can only use NGu med without image doubling. But quality is as good as Nnedi3 64 + image doubling. It is probably normal for 4k upscaling.

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Old 19th November 2016, 16:24   #40283  |  Link
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For people reporting that install.bat doesn't work in Windows 10:

madshi knows. It's been reported multiple times already.

To work around this you just need to copy the files from the new archive into the folder of the older version, overwriting the old files. I *always* update madvr this way. Since this update method doesn't change where the madvr files are located, it is not necessary to run install.bat.
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Old 19th November 2016, 16:26   #40284  |  Link
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No 3rd party software, no flux, fraps or gpu-z. No optimus.
Gtx1070 latest driver
Latest version of lavfilter,mpc-hc
Windows10 64bits V1607

What i don't understand, is that it worked first try on my htpc (gtx960)even without the madVR91b.rar fix but not on my editing pc(gtx1070).
And my htpc has the same windows/software in it.
On my gtx960, i can only use NGu med without image doubling. But quality is as good as Nnedi3 64 + image doubling. It is probably normal for 4k upscaling.
Absoluetely the latest Nvidia driver is broken, thousands of reports about it.

The latest driver that is stable is 373.06 (heavy testers found this to be the best driver).

IF you have any driver more recent, you might experience some strange things, especially with Pascal GPUs.
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Old 19th November 2016, 16:37   #40285  |  Link
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No 3rd party software, no flux, fraps or gpu-z. No optimus.
Gtx1070 latest driver
Latest version of lavfilter,mpc-hc
Windows10 64bits V1607
Then please create a log file with the 91b test build I posted earlier.
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Old 19th November 2016, 16:44   #40286  |  Link
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Yes, I was.

Totally forgot that it was on and it might affect it.

Cleared it out, tested, 230W max power pull on GPU, max OC clocks achieved.

Nice job!

The visuals are amazing, so much sharpness. At first I almost through why do we have an edge softening algorithm, now I get it

Now time to fix my setup and settings, because my actual settings add blur and over sharpening over certain edges...

Something I noticed recently, whenever I play a really low resolution video (under 720P) there is an audible feedback coming from the GPU, like a high pitched sound, which is not related to the fan. No idea what it is...
i also noticed the pitch noise from my GTX 970 when i play any vids with NGU (tested 360~720p)
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Old 19th November 2016, 16:45   #40287  |  Link
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Are you saying that the option "use D3D11 for presentation" makes problems when using NGU, but makes no problems when using other image doublers?
Yes, that's exactly the case.
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Old 19th November 2016, 16:48   #40288  |  Link
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For people reporting that install.bat doesn't work in Windows 10:

madshi knows. It's been reported multiple times already.

To work around this you just need to copy the files from the new archive into the folder of the older version, overwriting the old files. I *always* update madvr this way. Since this update method doesn't change where the madvr files are located, it is not necessary to run install.bat.
yeah i noticed the same thing. the solution if u run the install.bat is reboot your pc.

1) uninstall, reboot
2) reboot
3) install, done
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Old 19th November 2016, 16:48   #40289  |  Link
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Then please create a log file with the 91b test build I posted earlier.
I'm not very familiar with debug mode. It says '' file "madVR.ax" not found '' but I can see madVR.ax in the folder.

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Absoluetely the latest Nvidia driver is broken, thousands of reports about it.

The latest driver that is stable is 373.06 (heavy testers found this to be the best driver).

IF you have any driver more recent, you might experience some strange things, especially with Pascal GPUs.
I tried version 373.06, no luck , still not working..
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Old 19th November 2016, 16:49   #40290  |  Link
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some quick tests:

Chroma & Luma doubling both @ NGU med: 32ms
Chroma & Luma doubling both @ NGU high: 79 ms
Chroma & Luma doubling both @ NNEDI32: 25 ms
Chroma & Luma doubling both @ NNEDI64: 36ms
I have a XFX RX 480 GTR Back Edition and I get worse performance.

Chroma & Luma doubling both @ NGU med: 50 ms
Chroma & Luma doubling both @ NGU high: 120 ms
Chroma & Luma doubling both @ NNEDI32: 40 ms
Chroma & Luma doubling both @ NNEDI64: 58 ms

MadVR 0.91b: With chroma upscaling Lanczos3 and with DX11. DX9 gets even worse.
My system is: A8-6500, 8 GB RAM, Windows 10 and latest AMD drivers

Any idea why this is? I mean this is one of the fastest RX 480 cards and I would expect similar or slightly better results. Sunset1982 are you using some settings that makes it faster? There is a ratio of approx. 1.5. What can explain this?

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Old 19th November 2016, 16:51   #40291  |  Link
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I'm not very familiar with debug mode. It says '' file "madVR.ax" not found '' but I can see madVR.ax in the folder.
Did you follow the installation instructions? See here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...ostcount=40282
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Old 19th November 2016, 16:55   #40292  |  Link
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Did you follow the installation instructions? See here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...ostcount=40282
Sorry my english suck, I'm french or I'm too stupid haha,
How do I make sure I'm in release mode or what does it mean?
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Old 19th November 2016, 16:59   #40293  |  Link
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960 boost clock of 1430 mhz
480 -> FHD 23p
480 -> double -> spline 3 AR
chroma and luma doubling

NGU high: 41 ms 1430 mhz
NGU mid: 25 ms at ~1000 mhz
nnedi3 256: ~100 ms 1265 mhz
nnedi3 128: 48 ms 1265 mhz
nnedi3 64: 39 ms 1265 mhz

NGU high is notable slower than nnedi3 64
so hard to test this card... i guess openCL limited the GPU clock to 1265 mhz.
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Old 19th November 2016, 17:02   #40294  |  Link
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How do I make sure I'm in release mode or what does it mean?
There's a batch file "activate release mode.bat" or "activate debug mode.bat". Executing this batch switches madVR between release and debug mode. Basically the batch just renames the madVR *.ax files. There are 4 ax files, two for 32bit, two for 64bit. One of these are release build. some debug build. The debug build files create a log file on your desktop.
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Old 19th November 2016, 17:03   #40295  |  Link
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960 boost clock of 1430 mhz
480 -> FHD 23p
480 -> double -> spline 3 AR
chroma and luma doubling

NGU high: 41 ms 1430 mhz
NGU mid: 25 ms at ~1000 mhz
nnedi3 256: ~100 ms 1265 mhz
nnedi3 128: 48 ms 1265 mhz
nnedi3 64: 39 ms 1265 mhz

NGU high is notable slower than nnedi3 64
so hard to test this card... i guess openCL limited the GPU clock to 1265 mhz.
Ok, much better than with the RX480.
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Old 19th November 2016, 17:09   #40296  |  Link
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That's called coil whine, it's related to the quality of the design/parts in your graphics card. Best to avoid whatever manufacturer made that card in future.. you could try overclocking it, it may help.
The usual manufacturing way to deal with coil whine if nothing else changes is to put a dab of epoxy or something like that on the offending component if you know exactly which one is the one generating the sound. This is part of why you will sometimes see it in some power supplies.

Most people don't know about coil whine. As it can be audibly produced by wifi routers, my suspicion is that it is heard by some and this is part of why people freak out about wifi because they can tell there is "something" the closer they go to the unit emitting gamma rays but do not know it is only sound.
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Old 19th November 2016, 17:15   #40297  |  Link
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It wasn't about coil whine yes or no, but about the specific tone. Like cnckane noted, NGU leads to quite different sounds than anything else in madVR, and this is not related to the fact that the load would be higher. NNEDI3 64 + SR3 has a higher load than NGU, but the sound frequency is not that high though.
I first thought it wouldn't be worth mentioning, but since cnckane describes exactly the same, it seems more than a just a pure coincidence. Something in the GPU/on the board is going on with NGU that seems to cause similar effects like high fps in games.
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Old 19th November 2016, 17:26   #40298  |  Link
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There's a batch file "activate release mode.bat" or "activate debug mode.bat". Executing this batch switches madVR between release and debug mode. Basically the batch just renames the madVR *.ax files. There are 4 ax files, two for 32bit, two for 64bit. One of these are release build. some debug build. The debug build files create a log file on your desktop.
here we go. thank you for your time.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n4ysa0zouo...20log.txt?dl=0
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Old 19th November 2016, 17:29   #40299  |  Link
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There's somebody hooking D3D9 on your PC. I'm not sure who or why. Do you have any funny NVidia extensions installed, like virtual desktop stuff, or maybe some remote desktop software running or something?
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If GeForce Experience is installed, I'd try uninstalling it or turning off its capture capabilities.
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