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25th February 2017, 06:09 | #42722 | Link |
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Some pictures to check algo's anti-aliasing possibilities: G1610 (groundtruth, maybe), Mario Party (taken here).
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13.12 should be the fastest if running W7/W8 on a r9 2x0 or older, BTW I'll be upgrading to W8.1 very soon(I want 10bit support and have to run x64 so I can go 2160p60 down the road) so I guess I can stick to 13.12 with my 7850? No option to output 10bit in Windows with those though but mVR doesn't care apparently and will force it anyway?
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25th February 2017, 09:42 | #42724 | Link |
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Madshi, if you would consider keeping the low level configuration of current NGU series, I'd be appreciated?
With my newly bought gig XPS 15 9560, which only has a 1050 card, and can barely handle 720p -> 1080p @ 24fps fluently with medium level, so keeping the low level is quite important to me, especially when the SuperXBR is to be replaces. It would be great if you can do the magic to improve the quality of the low level a little bit. Last edited by Anima123; 25th February 2017 at 10:05. |
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And FWIR UHD rules coz it's 3x720p, IIRC mVR has 3X optimisations? Last edited by leeperry; 25th February 2017 at 15:19. |
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Madshi was going to look into a 3x version of NGU but it turned out that it would be the same speed as 4x NGU so it was never implemented. I would still like to see it for exactly that; 720p to 4K upscaling.
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and yes you can send 10 bit to the GPU driver you simply have no control over what it is doing with it. Quote:
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Is there any way to check that 10bit got enabled apart from mVR's OSD? Test patterns maybe? That's what this guy does:
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yes and this TV is 8 bit. what every they do they don't judge the native bit deep of the screen they judge the dithering and if i'm not mistaken without AFRC because the screen doesn't have it.
every TV supports 12 bit input that's totally normal. some TV tell you the input type most didn't. just use a newer driver you have to do that with an RX 4x0 card anyway. Quote:
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26th February 2017, 01:04 | #42733 | Link |
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Nah, he just says 8.1 works well, but then so does 10. You can easily configure things if you have problems you have with how 10 does things.
Seems rather weird to embrace software development on one hand and completely ignore it with the other. 10 has been near enough to perfect for me on my HTPC, no way I'd buy 8.1 for a new build. Last edited by ryrynz; 26th February 2017 at 02:58. |
26th February 2017, 07:35 | #42734 | Link |
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Hey @madshi. I would like to request that you restore the ability to do nearest-neighbor upscaling. It seems to have been removed in recent versions.
I have an actual use case for this, and am sticking with an older version as a result. Although nearest-neighbor is not generally a desirable algorithm for most realistic images, it can be desirable when displaying media containing pixel artwork. It is also quite useful as a means to demonstrate to people the differences between different interpolation kernels on real media, something I have occasion to do in an educational capacity. My suspicion is that was removed because you imagine that nobody uses it and you could save real estate. I can testify that I use it regularly (though not for photographic content). Perhaps you could combine nearest-neighbor and bilinear upscaling under a shared radio button and name it something like "Simple," much as you folded C-R and M-N under the "Cubic" banner. (Another idea would be to combine NN, bilinear and DXVA2 under a "Native" or "GPU" grouping.) Thank you for all your hard work on publishing madVR for free: it is a fantastic offering. I know you can't fulfill the requests of everybody, but I hope you will at least consider restoring this functionality. It would brighten my day. Last edited by sarah180; 26th February 2017 at 07:39. Reason: elaboration |
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I have a couple of problems since buying a 4K TV.
1. If I put in the display capability options '2160p23, 1080p23' while set to 2160p resolution it upscales 1080 to 2160. If I set the resolution before playback to 1080 it downscales 2160p to 1080p. This only appears to occur on x264 reencodes. If I playback the original H.264 blurays in a remux, it switches correctly between the two at any given fps. I do not wish for 1080 x264 encodes to upscale to 2160 as I lose some motion options on the TV (It's complicated to explain here but I have my reasons). 2. If Windows 10 scaling slider is used at 2160 then 1080p plays with a large portion of the video cut off (zoomed in on the top left hand corner). If I set the output in Windows to 1080 and play a 4K clip with scaling on then the video shrinks into the top left corner of the display. This only happens for blurays that switch to 1080 or 2160 and not the x264 encodes which upscale/downscale depending on the initial resolution set in Windows. I am using DX11 FSE on a AMD Radeon RX480 with latest drivers outputting 4:4:4 full RGB 12bit at 60Hz when at 1080. Last edited by oddball; 26th February 2017 at 11:54. |
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Madshi suggests to keep native resolution when using display modes.
For keeping resolution no matter what you play you do 3840x2160p23, 3840x2160p25 ....and on For changing resolution you do 1080p23, 2160p23....and on For 2. you mean it overscans?Check if your TV has fit to screen option and set it to ON.It removes any scaling from TVs part. Last edited by Damien147; 26th February 2017 at 11:59. |
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No overscan is off on the TV. This is zooming the video or shrinking the video depending on what the inititial resolution in Windows is set to. Scaling affects video playback when switching between resolutions at playback. I have just found it sometimes does it on x264 encodes too. Some 1080 encodes get scaled to 2160 and some switch to 1080 and get zoomed with Windows scaling enabled (currently at 250%). I shall post state from one that switches and one that gets upscaled. This one switches to 1080 correctly (with the scaling zoom problem) Code:
Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 Overall bit rate : 5 282 kb/s Writing application : mkvmerge v8.3.0 ('Over the Horizon') 64bit Writing library : libebml v1.3.1 + libmatroska v1.4.2 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Bit rate : 4 792 kb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Variable Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Code:
General Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 Overall bit rate : 7 298 kb/s Writing application : mkvmerge v8.3.0 ('Over the Horizon') 64bit Writing library : libebml v1.3.1 + libmatroska v1.4.2 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 1 h 47 min Bit rate : 5 787 kb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 808 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.156 Stream size : 4.33 GiB (79%) Writing library : x264 core 148 r2744 b97ae06 Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=18 / lookahead_threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=5787 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No |
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26th February 2017, 12:21 | #42740 | Link |
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I don't know. 1.Check TVs resolution with the info button to see if the resolution is correct. 2.Disable scaling from gpu. 3.Check underscan/overscan in amd radeon settings.The default behavior is 0% though from now on. @Mistery 73 Not sure if I get you. You set resolution to 3840x2160 in video card and for display modes if you wanna use them for everything you do 3840x2160px Last edited by Damien147; 26th February 2017 at 12:28. |
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