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Old 19th August 2019, 22:41   #57161  |  Link
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It has 3d support, I own a 5700xt myself and enjoy 3d via my jvc n5b projector
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Old 20th August 2019, 15:01   #57162  |  Link
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720p
Image doubling: NGU Standard High
Chroma upscaling: NGU Standard High

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Image doubling: NGU Sharp High
Chroma upscaling: NGU Sharp High

2160p
Chrome upscaling: NGU Sharp High
Sharpen Edges: 1.0
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It looks like a bit as 1060 6GB probably a bit more powerful but not much.

Note that if under the 2160p result are the upscaling refinements settings then they are not used (since you don't do doubling).
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It looks like a bit as 1060 6GB probably a bit more powerful but not much.

Note that if under the 2160p result are the upscaling refinements settings then they are not used (since you don't do doubling).
it's much more powerfull than 1060 6gb. I went from a rtx 2080ti and only had to lower a single setting im my 2160p profile, chroma NGU Anti-alias (Very high) to (High) rest of the settings aren't changed

I'm using these settings from https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=259188
and the Profile: "2160p" for my 4k material with madVR tonemapping on my JVC N5B

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Old 20th August 2019, 16:23   #57164  |  Link
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It looks like a bit as 1060 6GB probably a bit more powerful but not much.

Note that if under the 2160p result are the upscaling refinements settings then they are not used (since you don't do doubling).
Isn't the chroma layer still doubled for 2160p? Wouldn't the refinements still apply there?

I wouldn't take my current results as any sort of reliable benchmark. I just wanted to give a rough ballpark idea of what people are seeing in the real world, but fine-tuning it is still a work in progress. There are almost certainly things I can do to improve performance. That said, I think I will be returning my reference 5700 for one of the aftermarket 5700 XT's that should be available any day now. I was hoping they'd come out before my return window was up, but I may just return it and use my RX 560 until they're available.

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No, without image upscaling the upscaling refinements are not run. Chroma scaling is not image upscaling. Image Processing is run after chroma upscaling, if you wanted to process 2160p for some reason.
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it's much more powerfull than 1060 6gb.
Most people don't push their cards to their limit so unless you're looking at gpu usage and render times etc then how would you know? Typically the lower resolution profiles would be more demanding too unless we're talking 60 FPS? I'd trust the benchmark more than a statement without actual numbers and specifics, which I'd like to see for both these cards..the wait continues.

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Most people don't push their cards to their limit so unless you're looking at gpu usage and render times etc then how would you know? Typically the lower resolution profiles would be more demanding too unless we're talking 60 FPS? I'd trust the benchmark more than a statement without actual numbers and specifics, which I'd like to see for both these cards..the wait continues.
No they are not. Read the article i linked to above. From the article I quote.
"madVR’s tone mapping can be very resource-heavy with all of the HDR enhancements enabled. To make room, I would recommend simply reducing the value of chroma upscaling to Bicubic60 + AR. Bicubic is more than acceptable as a basic chroma upscaler and is not in any way as impactful as madVR’s tone mapping in improving image quality."
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Ah a new Graphic card discussion, sure it won't go like the other hundreds of comparison threads...ah no, my bad.

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Old 21st August 2019, 10:51   #57169  |  Link
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we have a new card on the block, what else is there to discuss?, there hasn't been a peep from MADSHI for ages, we have to make our own fun
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Old 21st August 2019, 11:03   #57170  |  Link
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I know, But there are madVR threads for video card drivers etc....and as you know and can be seen, there is never a proper conversation, its "this can do this", "well so can mine"....and it just goes on and on, and you will have to wait for "mature drivers"....its a waste of time in the end.
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Old 21st August 2019, 11:27   #57171  |  Link
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it's much more powerfull than 1060 6gb.
No, he has a non-XT version:
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there is never a proper conversation, its "this can do this", "well so can mine"....and it just goes on and on, and you will have to wait for "mature drivers"....its a waste of time in the end.
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I'd trust the benchmark more than a statement without actual numbers and specifics, which I'd like to see for both these cards..the wait continues.
All they want to do is talking/arguing nothing more
If someone change his/her mind, head over here and do some proper test.
BTW, what GPU do You have guys?!
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I know, But there are madVR threads for video card drivers etc....and as you know and can be seen, there is never a proper conversation, its "this can do this", "well so can mine"....and it just goes on and on, and you will have to wait for "mature drivers"....its a waste of time in the end.
I tend to agree but I dont think we can have a proper conversation without a reliable benchmark tool made by MADSHI, in the meantime this is all we can do.
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Ok, so I've set on my profiles with these https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php...977#pid2238977. They mostly work. The medium setting on a 1660ti is too much on the 1080 profile and I still get frame jumps every one in a while. It's not the entire time, but it's enough to get annoying. Please halp. Is ther anything else I can try to keep the settings I have. I do have high doubling, low direct quadruple on the 1080 profile. It's the only way I could get it to work without going to 97% on the card. Right now everything goes from about 68% to 74% on the card.
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Overlock your card, reduce chroma settings down, remove any unnecessary prost processing (more than one sharpener, debanding) change some trade quality for performance options.
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Anyone got issues with NVidia's latest 436.02 drivers and the Low Latency Ultra setting when it comes to MPC-HC and madVR?
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Anyone got issues with NVidia's latest 436.02 drivers and the Low Latency Ultra setting when it comes to MPC-HC and madVR?
Could you describe the issue.
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No, he has a non-XT version:

All they want to do is talking/arguing nothing more
If someone change his/her mind, head over here and do some proper test.
BTW, what GPU do You have guys?!
5700 (non-XT) is around 1070/1080 in games, so it is much faster than a 1060.

Is it faster than 1060/1070/1080 on NGU, that's the question..
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5700 (non-XT) is around 1070/1080 in games, so it is much faster than a 1060.

Is it faster than 1060/1070/1080 on NGU, that's the question..
It depenss on the game...
But here's your answer: no.
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you should be careful with these "test". a 1060 can do very high if you know what you are doing.
i have no idea why AMD user here are unable to provide proper screens with MS to get an idea but that's the case here.
up to this days no one did this properly with vega. don't get me wrong they don't have to do that.

i may get one in a couple of weeks and i will provide data that will give user an idea how they performance with proper numbers.
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Anyone got issues with NVidia's latest 436.02 drivers and the Low Latency Ultra setting when it comes to MPC-HC and madVR?
That option would be absolutely terrible for a video player.

If anything you should enable it on a per-game basis, not globally, since it can interact badly with any sort of games as well if they rely on the graphics driver to provide buffering for smooth rendering.
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