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Old 16th March 2024, 15:23   #10461  |  Link
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Do you mean "Select All" then "Reset Selected" ?
No. Read carefully what I wrote.
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Old 18th March 2024, 18:46   #10462  |  Link
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Just found out that super-resolution applies well to Intel HD-630 while not to Intel HD-620 (black screen).

Edit: While playback exact 720p video on 1080p screen, HD-630 seems work fine with super-resolution, but with a video with resolution of 1280x718, only got black screen.

Any idea how this would happen? Is it avoidable, or something that can be done to address it for a developers' view?

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Old 19th March 2024, 15:03   #10463  |  Link
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Perhaps this is due to the multiplicity of sizes to a power of two. Your height 718 is only a multiple of x2. Normal height is 720 multiple of x16.
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Old 19th March 2024, 19:25   #10464  |  Link
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Perhaps this is due to the multiplicity of sizes to a power of two. Your height 718 is only a multiple of x2. Normal height is 720 multiple of x16.
Is there anything to do to mitigate the restriction while playing back?

At least one should be warned of the limitation/restriction of super-resolution before hitting a wall.
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Old 19th March 2024, 19:39   #10465  |  Link
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I think it would be more correct to write about the problem at Intel.
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Old 19th March 2024, 23:00   #10466  |  Link
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here is a new chroma test this time with mpcVR cat rom:
https://slow.pics/c/mFvmhVMl

image 1 the aberration is the hardest it is just generally sharper most people will not be able to tell the difference.

image 2 and 3 the red ones. obvious massively sharper image

image 4 massively lowered aliasing in the hair should be very trivial to see.

of the to other scaler that are available lanczos 3 or jinc2 may lower the aliasing. how the over board sharpness of jinc 2 will end up i have no clue.

this is super xbr 150 in that test i only used that for 1080p source that are upscaled to UHD.
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Old 20th March 2024, 04:45   #10467  |  Link
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here is a new chroma test this time with mpcVR cat rom:
https://slow.pics/c/mFvmhVMl
I don't see a fundamental difference between "mpcVR catrom" and "madVR jinc3 AR" for chroma. I looked at pairs of pictures one after another with full 4k screen zoom in IrfanView. It’s possible that to see the benefits of "madVR jinc3 AR" you need a large TV with large pixels, but I doubt that it will be so significant there that it’s impossible without it.
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Old 20th March 2024, 04:54   #10468  |  Link
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ok i find this very trivial to do.

i do no zooming at all i can also do that on a 1080p screen.

but i have to agree jinc2 is maybe not enough of a difference.
just remember this test:
https://slow.pics/c/72JEh0DC
it's hard to tell them apart but if you compare 1 with 6 directly it's day night.

in the test above the difference between super xbr and bicubic is massive but jincs is in between making it look not that different.

just to be sure you have a proper 4:4:4 set up so no TV is used?
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Old 20th March 2024, 19:16   #10469  |  Link
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And if you super-res the chroma?
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Old 20th March 2024, 22:29   #10470  |  Link
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super what?
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Old 21st March 2024, 06:54   #10471  |  Link
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super what?
Super Resolution. We can use it for upscaling can't we? Chroma can also benefit from super resolution, especially the softer scalers like Jinc and others.

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Old 21st March 2024, 10:15   #10472  |  Link
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super resolution is a term used for upscaling past the target resolution and downscaling to the target. there is zero benefit for chroma doing that and mpcVR can't do that anyway. and something i'm not missing at all.

then there is RTX super resolution that is just a scaler that replaces all other scaling function maybe it output's 420 i don't know so a correction chroma scale is maybe needed but will have barely any effect jinc2m is also not available for that.

RTX super resolution is no a good scaler in general it's power is cleaning up low res flawed source. but for good source the creators intend is just destroyed.

the jinc2m is everything but not soft.
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Old 21st March 2024, 15:16   #10473  |  Link
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And if you super-res the chroma?
Enable "Request Super Resolution" in MPC VR and output at 100% scale. There will be some improvement in terms of restoring chroma, see for yourself.

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Old 21st March 2024, 17:07   #10474  |  Link
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quite good on this one image: https://i.postimg.cc/1mdDXH5g/nativesuperres.png
but it will still scale the image if used which is a no go.
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Old 21st March 2024, 20:28   #10475  |  Link
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Enable "Request Super Resolution" in MPC VR and output at 100% scale. There will be some improvement in terms of restoring chroma, see for yourself.
I'm aware...I was suggesting that it improves chroma upscaling, especially for softer scalers like Jinc and possibly others.

I'm not sure if MPC VR actually does super resolution on chroma, but if it doesn't...maybe it should.
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Old 21st March 2024, 21:00   #10476  |  Link
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as i shared an image of it doing it yes it can but you can not use it with other scaler.
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Old 21st March 2024, 22:09   #10477  |  Link
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Can you show what an offset per pixel looks like using your example?
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Old 22nd March 2024, 14:18   #10478  |  Link
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you mean this stuff? https://drive.google.com/file/d/12YU...ew?usp=sharing
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