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Old 11th June 2019, 18:48   #381  |  Link
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Yea, it's not the SSD. It's a much more complicated problem, unfortunately, which may end up ultimately coming down to my RTX 2070. I spent too much time this morning debugging the issue already so I have to set it aside til tonight. The issue is more bizarre than anything I've ever seen on a PC, though, which troubles me as everything is brand new within the last 45-60 days. The SSD, however, is not the issue and has been ruled out.
Have you ruled out the Ram sticks or the sockets?
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Yea, I've narrowed it down to video related issues. I've pulled the 2070 right now and am reinstalling windows with just the built in Intel whatever on the 9900k. madvr isn't going to love that but this should only be temporary until I can determine if it's a defective card and get it replaced.
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Thanks. works, So far so good! Its annoying how my 5.1 through dvi/hdmi sleeps but stereo hdmi through tvARC never sleeps so power concern is none for me, I just want both outputs to act the same. Awesome tip!
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Old 12th June 2019, 01:14   #384  |  Link
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Alright, my issue is on its way to being solved. After so much troubleshooting it has been narrowed down to a hardware issue with the 2070. nVidia is RMA'ing it and my system is running with my 1060 right now. Good thing is I guess the windows clean install? LOL It is a brand new machine.
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Old 12th June 2019, 08:43   #385  |  Link
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The banding issue on Win 10 1903 looks like it's been picked up:

https://hub.displaycal.net/forums/to...-windows-1903/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c..._strips_issue/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...eople_who_use/
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Old 12th June 2019, 12:09   #386  |  Link
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Yeah users picked it up ages ago, has it been picked up by Nvidia/MS though? It's entirely the reason why I've held off 1903 on my HTPC. Really nice update though apart from this issue.
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The really depressing part is this: "I’ve reported the issue both to nvidia, and Microsoft multiple times since the issue has been there for months in the insider builds which is now RTM but seems that nothing is being done about it."

They mostly depend on insiders for QA but even when issues are reported officially and widely they don't get fixed before release.
It's like Windows is some video game for them now instead of, you know, a critical part of using your computer.
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That honestly does not surprise me, communication is often poor unless you're dealing with an actual person. Pity Madshi ain't around to help sort it.. providing him all the info and having him forward it on would've been the ideal solution.
Have you spoken with ManuelGuzman or tweeted @windowsdev? Both of them appear to be reasonably useful in making things happen.
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Old 12th June 2019, 12:34   #389  |  Link
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Yeah users picked it up ages ago, has it been picked up by Nvidia/MS though? It's entirely the reason why I've held off 1903 on my HTPC. Really nice update though apart from this issue.
Yeah, true...I guess the more noise created, hopefully the better the chances of it getting fixed.
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It will be fixed, it'll just be better chances of getting it fixed promptly. Wonder if it's even on their radar?
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It will be fixed, it'll just be better chances of getting it fixed promptly. Wonder if it's even on their radar?
I'm not a member on the Nvidia or MS forums, so hopefully those that are (and here) will help flag the issue.
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i personally would just ignore this "issue" an audio pop with an resync is sadly relative normal with all kinds of devices.
I know but I'm hypersensitive to harsh noises and it's really quite a loud pop if the AVR volume is set to movie listening level. I'm also afraid it may damage my speakers in the long run but maybe I'm being paranoid.

You're right that it's due to a change in Windows because I've just cleaned my system of all traces of NVIDIA audio driver and registry settings and went back to the generic MS HD Audio driver and it's still happening. It's probably a change on the graphics side, it must force the GPU to reset the whole HDMI connection when changing refresh rate or something like that and it probably is doing it dirty without cleanly cutting the audio channel first.
I wish if HDMI QMS eventually comes to PCs one day that it will fix this again.
I'm now manually muting the global sound output of Windows before changing my display refresh rate to avoid it, it's bothersome but it's a workaround.
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Did anybody find an AMD driver that works with 1903 (no banding)?
Edit: This is madness. I decided to run DDU and try the latest 19.6.1 (WDDM 2.6) for one last time (before trying to revert to 1809) and now it's all fine. This leaves me wondering what really triggers the banding (or if running DDU changed anything).

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Finally managed to use a wddm 2.6 driver....and such a simple fix (I had done this on a previous windows build, but didnt even think to check on 1903 build).

Credit to acesko92 from the nvidia forum:

"I managed to find a fix for the broken gamma, and nvidia dithering in windows 1903: you need to go to Task Scheduler > Microsoft > Windows > WindowsColorSystem, and delete the task called WindowsColorSystem Calibration Loader."


I just disabled the service and rebooted, but each to their own.
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"I managed to find a fix for the broken gamma, and nvidia dithering in windows 1903: you need to go to Task Scheduler > Microsoft > Windows > WindowsColorSystem, and delete the task called WindowsColorSystem Calibration Loader."
Hah, funny. This workaround works for me too (with v435.27 on a machine which has a custom ICM profile for the secondary display).
But I am pretty sure I didn't have any custom ICM profiles installed on my AMD notebook (unless Windows Update tried to grab one from the manufacturer but I saw no indication of this anywhere and those rarely have a modified 1DLUT anyway) and it just went away between random driver installs (+ a DDU run but no task scheduler tinkering).
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I have filed a feature suggestion to MS Feedback Hub for adding a 'audio-only display output' feature to Windows (could be useful for HTPCs). Here's the link if anyone is interested: https://aka.ms/AA5emb3
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no one cares? that's very disappointing...
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Yeah, everyone jump into the Feedback Hub and upvote it.
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I upvoted it. I just think MS won't care. I've been through this with them already for a different kind of issue. Even when they did eventually add the feature I was looking for, it was for something completely different but they closed my issue and merged it with the other one anyway. So...good luck I guess?
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Old 24th June 2019, 21:36   #400  |  Link
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Stuttering on RTX

Hi!

Maybe I'm a noob but I still have stuttering on 430.xx drivers my my RTX. For me last working driver is 418.91...

I played with that (https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php...&postcount=151) for hours without any success (not sure also to have understood the purpose of the attached files with Nvidia inspector…).

I'm the only guy who still have this issue?
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