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Old 12th January 2014, 18:48   #18781  |  Link
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Well i figure it' be worth mentioning here for all the ppl here that might still use vista like myself. 3D rebuild will NOT work on vista, the test build i received from Jdobbs works fine on the extraction part but FRIM errors out on the actual frameserving / encoding part. So w7 and up is mandatory.
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Old 12th January 2014, 20:14   #18782  |  Link
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Thanks for the heads up but I don't imagine many people would be on Vista as even Microsoft admitted it was one to forget.
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Old 12th January 2014, 21:09   #18783  |  Link
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Sooo... I assume that means no XP support. :-)
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Old 12th January 2014, 21:39   #18784  |  Link
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Sooo... I assume that means no XP support. :-)
No, need to assume. You can be assured no XP support and no it is not Jdobbs fault. Program he uses require win 7 at minimum to work.
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Old 13th January 2014, 00:37   #18785  |  Link
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@hwk pretty sure he was being a bit sarcastic. Smiley at the back.

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Old 13th January 2014, 01:07   #18786  |  Link
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Failed Video MVC Reencode with 3D Movie Hugo

When doing a movie only copy of Hugo 3D to BD-9 on a Windows 8.1 system, the reencode using FRIMEnoder has failed on two attempts. On the first, it failed on the first pass at around 99%, and on the second it failed on the first pass at around 83%. The log file simply says Failed video encode.

Let me know if what I need to provide to help in the troubleshooting. In the mean time I'm going to attempt a rebuild of a different movie to see if the same thing occurs.
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Old 13th January 2014, 01:51   #18787  |  Link
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Does the new 3D mode only use ABR? I started a 2-pass encode, but an ABR encode does actually start.
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Old 13th January 2014, 02:19   #18788  |  Link
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Does the new 3D mode only use ABR? I started a 2-pass encode, but an ABR encode does actually start.
Yes. FRIMEncode only supports 1 pass encoding.
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Old 13th January 2014, 05:48   #18789  |  Link
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I'm not positive I understand what you're saying. But if it failed when adding after-the-fact with TSMUXER, it's likely going to have the same result when you do the it with BD-RB.

How are you re-adding the pop-up, with BDEDIT? 3D gets tricky because there is additional stream information kept in MPLS and CLPI extensions.
Yup. You're right. I'm using BDEdit to add the Pop-Up menu. With those movies, which contain IGS Menu, I have to use Scenarist to remux in order to keep the original menu. But if I using the Scenarist, I will lost the original 3D Offset. If you gain something, you also lose something. If we have a software, which can export the OFS file to re-import into Scenarist, it's pretty good. But if your software can fix that problem, I hope I will be the first person to test it.

Thank you for your answer.
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Old 13th January 2014, 10:38   #18790  |  Link
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Yes. FRIMEncode only supports 1 pass encoding.
OK and only ABR, not CRF.

I have a question about the quality of the new 3D mode. Does it make a difference in quality to use the existing (x264) quality profiles, or is there just one quality?

I assume that the tweak lines concerning encoder settings do not work in this new 3D mode. Am I right?
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Old 13th January 2014, 14:38   #18791  |  Link
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OK and only ABR, not CRF.

I have a question about the quality of the new 3D mode. Does it make a difference in quality to use the existing (x264) quality profiles, or is there just one quality?

I assume that the tweak lines concerning encoder settings do not work in this new 3D mode. Am I right?
Yes. Tweaking relates specifically to X264 settings, so it wouldn't apply. As for CRF, FRIMEncode does appear to have a QP mode, but that generally creates a larger file than CRF for the same quality -- and currently there is no reasonable method for seeking, so estimating output size is out of the question.

I could add tweak settings that are specifically aimed at FRIMEncode if that's any help.
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Jdobbs, not sure if you considered this but I was wondering if you process 3d disc, does you program give option to copy as 2D or will it force 3D output. If it does 3D can you add option to have final output 2D instead of 3D.

Also I think we don't need this anymore as a hidden option, what do you think.

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DTSX_ENABLE=n n = 0/1 - 0=Ignore DTS Express secondary audio, 1= Enable experimental DTS Express muxing
Since you added full DTS Express Processing

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Jdobbs, not sure if you considered this but I was wondering if you process 3d disc, does you program give option to copy as 2D or will it force 3D output. If it does 3D can you add option to have final output 2D instead of 3D.

Also I think we don't need this anymore as a hidden option, what do you think.



Since you added full DTS Express Processing
There is an undocumented hidden option called IGNORE_3D that can be used. It's only undocumented because I forgot... You'd just add IGNORE_3D=1 to the [Options] area of the Config/INI file.

I need to remove the DTSX_ENABLE setting and add the new one (IGNORE_3D). DTSX_ENABLE has no effect now.
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My impression was that if you do not specifically chose 3D iso output option, BD-RB will produce a 2D BD from a 3D title. Thx for the clarification above.
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Jdobbs, Can BD-RB capable of handling of secondary video processing with new version of tsmuxer.
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Jdobbs, Can BD-RB capable of handling of secondary video processing with new version of tsmuxer.
BD-RB has always been able to handle secondary video. It shouldn't have changed.
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Also may I suggest to add check of frim decoder and encoder version to inspect.exe report
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Also may I suggest to add check of frim decoder and encoder version to inspect.exe report
I'll do that.
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I'll do that.
While you are at it, you may want to check the following. Basically I replace tsmuxer.exe with new version from Roman (tsMuxeR_2.6.12) and inspect said ok in my case, it shouldn't be doing that or it is expected.
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