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4th November 2018, 22:53 | #53562 | Link | ||
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madVR doesn't create blackbar that can be remove without zooming so yes to both. |
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4th November 2018, 23:36 | #53563 | Link | |
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There is plenty of room to up the chroma as well, but it's placebo to me. |
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5th November 2018, 00:57 | #53569 | Link |
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Well to be fair he didn't say it was. But yeah coming from a 1060 and a 1080 I can tell you the extra headroom the 1080 offers comes in very helpful for displaying downscaled 4k hdr on an HD screen. With an actual 4k screen though the demands are lower but a 960 just doesn't really cut it and especially if you want the best hdr experience from the soon to be released version. It doesn't feel right to be using anything other than NGU and SSIM AFAIC but to each their own, I would never use lanczos now except on the lowliest of machines.
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5th November 2018, 02:08 | #53570 | Link |
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https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...99#post1856899
are sou sure he didn't say that? the current highlight option cost so much processing power let just hope it gets better. |
5th November 2018, 06:14 | #53571 | Link |
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Just as you saw the value in purchasing a ~$2000 USD TV many of us that actually have better graphics cards than the 960 see the value in using them.
When you consider what some hardware does in terms of upscaling and postprocessing in years gone by and even today and how much people can spend on these products to get that, $800USD is a small price to pay to unlock some of, if not the best upscaling and post processing options available in real time "on the market". To have the benefit to render 3D at the highest possible details as well at high frame rates? A bargain really, and a far cry from a "waste of money". For the record I've used extensively with madVR a 750Ti 2GB, 960 2GB, 1060 6GB and a 1080 8GB. and I wouldn't trade my NGU doubling, NGU chroma and SSIM 2D downscaling on general content for anything. |
5th November 2018, 08:33 | #53572 | Link | |
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Dci-p3 and bt2020 to calibrate and measure with PC in hdr mode is impossible. Due to tone mapping and drift of TV. Maybe different to try it in sdr mode with maximum gamut and maximum light without hdr meta data. I will give it a try. Many thanks for all the interesting and good input. |
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5th November 2018, 08:45 | #53573 | Link |
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Amen! I too have a GTX 1080 card, and it is not overkill for MadVr use at all! In fact I will be buying a faster card next year (7nm).
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There's no downscaling on a 4k screen so no need for SSIM. If you guys want to suggest to the guy he needs to upgrade to a $600 card to run madVR in 4k at good settings I'm going to disagree, having had this setup for several years. I wouldn't recommend buying a 960 now, but you absolutely do not need to upgrade to something better at this point, and I think anyone who does thinking there is going to be some magical improvement is going to be disappointed. It will give you more headroom, that's about it. |
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Having jumped from a 960 myself to a 1060 I can tell you as far as upgrades go it was pretty magical. You're using medium quality settings and only just scraping by on 24fps content which given how close you are to the frame time will likely lead to frame drops. Suitable for you perhaps, plenty of users of 1060's and above would disagree with you there, we've all run lower tier cards in the past. We don't buy beyond low tier cards to just "gain headroom" Like huhn said, you can't do 60fps at those settings and you won't get the highest quality HDR processing either. It suits your viewing habits only. Not good advice, sorry. |
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5th November 2018, 09:33 | #53576 | Link |
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NGU Sharp Very High is worth buying a $600+ dollar GPU for in my mind, but not a $1000+ one though (like the current price for 2080Ti).
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5th November 2018, 10:15 | #53577 | Link | |
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ryrynz has to be trolling at this point.
The guy has a 4k OLED and you're talking about 1080p downscaling - irrelevant. Quote:
There are no tv shows or movies shot at greater than 25 fps. Only sports, soap operas, and talk shows which are generally not available in HDR. Not good advice, sorry. All of this is funny coming from someone using a 1080p screen. If you actually cared about quality you'd have a 4k OLED by now. But you don't, so you like to argue on the internet to justify your purchases. |
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5th November 2018, 10:37 | #53578 | Link |
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Well I have a 75" Samsung Q9FN. I have a lot of 720p and 1080p content that I upscale to 4K, and I want the best PQ possible. I also want to keep the render stats below 30ms to avoid frame drops. If you let the render stats to go just below ~40ms, then you can get frame drops because of the max stats that sometimes jump higher. I prefer to have headroom.
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1080p->2160p NGU Sharp High gets 19ms on a 960.
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Think I'll ignore you from now on, it's relevant to me. I'm not "talking about it"
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With a motion resolution that blows your OLED out of the water I might add. If it had zero benefit he wouldn't have added it. And you were talking about irrelevancy.. You should really research your display technologies before making such wild remarks. I have nothing more to say to you. Last edited by ryrynz; 5th November 2018 at 11:11. |
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