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Old 20th January 2022, 18:33   #1161  |  Link
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Folder structure played fine on software player.
Burned folder to disc and it would not play on hardware player (Sony)
The m2ts with pure True-HD seems to be read by most software players, but the Blu-ray chips expect a compliant ac3+thd.
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The m2ts with pure True-HD seems to be read by most software players, but the Blu-ray chips expect a compliant ac3+thd.
Agreed.
The warning about non-compliant codec should make users realize that the playback method matters

But it is a great feature for software based playback
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Old 20th January 2022, 20:31   #1164  |  Link
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Agreed.
The warning about non-compliant codec should make users realize that the playback method matters

But it is a great feature for software based playback
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If somebody is able to create a short 'HEVC with TrueHD' sample muxed within a 'Blu-ray Folder' set, I will test it with my OPPO
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Worked fine, no modification of the playlist required
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If somebody is able to create a short 'HEVC with TrueHD' sample muxed within a 'Blu-ray Folder' set, I will test it with my OPPO
Check your p.m.
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Interesting....

My OPPO's 'front display' detects the audio stream as being 'TrueHD'. But it's 'on-screen' display (as seen on the TV) does not register any audio format being present.

Also, after a few seconds the file stops playing and the OPPO crashes
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The hardware requires compliant streams, I guess.
For software or media player playback it is a good feature
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I guess so...

Unless there are some other tweaks that can be done.


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I guess so...

Unless there are some other tweaks that can be done.


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Congrats
As for the tweaks, that will come later with more people trying different things
It doesn't work on two UHD players that we know, it might work on some others
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Sony X700 = no audio with TS and bluray folder as expected.
Nvidia Shield = success.
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Unless there are some other tweaks that can be done.
Such as adding a blank 32kbps 2-channel AC3 frame before each TrueHD frame. This would allow the Blu-ray players to read the TrueHD, but it would be strange to have an empty AC3 stream in the m2ts.
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Such as adding a blank 32kbps 2-channel AC3 frame before each TrueHD frame. This would allow the Blu-ray players to read the TrueHD, but it would be strange to have an empty AC3 stream in the m2ts.
As per the Github entry, that should work for hardware players (compatibility wise).
I would guess that modern equipment all support the HD versions of audio

It would re-introduce spec compliancy and so get rid of playback method issues.

It would also be a good solution to eac3 without a core.

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Such as adding a blank 32kbps 2-channel AC3 frame before each TrueHD frame.
YES please
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Such as adding a blank 32kbps 2-channel AC3 frame before each TrueHD frame.
Yeah... If this means creating an low bit-rate AC3 core, then that would 'tick' all the boxes
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Such as adding a blank 32kbps 2-channel AC3 frame before each TrueHD frame. This would allow the Blu-ray players to read the TrueHD, but it would be strange to have an empty AC3 stream in the m2ts.
Don't need to be a empty stream, can be a downstereo recode with:

eac3to input.thd output.thd+ac3 -downStereo -32

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Don't need to be a empty stream, can be a downstereo recode with:

eac3to input.thd output.thd+ac3 -downStereo -32
Indeed that would be much better to transcode the AC3 with eac3to rather than adding a silent AC3 stream.

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It would also be a good solution to eac3 without a core.
I believe that pure eac3 are already accepted by tsMuxer ?

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I believe that pure eac3 are already accepted by tsMuxer ?
I just tried the latest nightly and tsMuxeR threw an error.
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Deleted the playlist fom the structure it created

I am referring to the BD folder selection

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Indeed that would be much better to transcode the AC3 with eac3to rather than adding a silent AC3 stream.
But wouldn't that make the whole process a lot longer?
I think I would prefer an empty core like the Atmos E-AC3 streaming services use. It works perfectly fine on my bluray player


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I just tried the latest nightly and tsMuxeR threw an error.
Ok, it will be fixed in tomorrow's release.
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