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I decided to start from scratch, deleting my v0.61.21 folder and unziped a fresh one, adding only UHD_CONVERT_ENABLE=1 to the .ini. Voila! I'm able to select the NVEnc encoder from the get go. Don't know what hidden setting I had added prevented it from working before, but it's working now. Maybe you can take a look and let me know. Wow, talk about fast! Even at the Highest (very slow) setting I'm getting 150+ fps. At this pace, Gladiator Extended version is going to finish in a little more than 30 minutes! Beats 12+ hours using x265! Can that be right??? I'm interested to see how the quality comes out vs x265 two pass. So I hope I didn't send you on a wild goose chase. When in doubt, start over! Thanks for your help... ;^) BTW, here's the Media Info info from the reencode: General Complete name : C:\Users\eM-SSD\Videos\HEVC\GLADIATOR_D1\\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls Format : Blu-ray Playlist File size : 640 Bytes Duration : 2 h 50 min Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 0 b/s Video ID : 4113 (0x1011) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Main 10@L4.1@High Codec ID : 36 Duration : 2 h 50 min Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 10 bits Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 format_identifier : HDMV Source : 00000.m2ts / 00000.m2ts Last edited by spotswood; 13th March 2021 at 19:58. |
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Add this to the alternate.txt replacing XX with the last number in your list +1 Code:
[000XX] caption=MKV, HEVC, NO_RESIZE, IntactAudio aBitrate=* aType=2 cType=1 vEncoder=1 vFormat=7 vKeyint=Auto I personally would use aBitrate=640 and aType=0 for AC3 640kb, since some audio streams can be quite big... On the other hand I'm not that audiophile like some others |
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13th March 2021, 23:19 | #30443 | Link |
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Interesting. I may cut-and-paste your settings into my INI and see if it does the same for me. I'd like to know what was causing it to not see your card -- and make it fail when you force it. [Edit] Nope. That wasn't it. I cut-and-pasted your settings into my INI and removed NVENC_CAPABLE=1, and then ran BD-RB -- and it recognized my card immediately. So then I decided to run it against the same BD source that you used. It started encoding with no issues. So whatever it was -- it wasn't the settings. Last edited by jdobbs; 13th March 2021 at 23:39. |
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Another thing I noticed between the two encoders... x265 creates a Format Profile of : Main 10@L5.1@High, and NVENC creates : Main 10@L4.1@High, difference being 10L@L5.1 vs 10L@L4.1. Any reason or differences between the two formats? Better quality? Thanks for any insight for a layman. Both encodes from The Matrix below... NVENC: Video ID : 1 ID in the original source medi : 4113 (0x1011) Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Main 10@L4.1@High Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC Duration : 2 h 16 min Bit rate : 20.3 Mb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 088 pixels Original height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Original display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 10 bits Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.405 Stream size : 19.3 GiB (90%) Language : English Default : No Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Original source medium : Blu-ray X265: Video ID : 1 ID in the original source medi : 4113 (0x1011) Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC Duration : 2 h 16 min Bit rate : 19.5 Mb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (23976/1000) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 10 bits Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.391 Stream size : 18.5 GiB (89%) Writing library : x265 3.2.1+3-b4b2ecac21f6:[Windows][GCC 9.2.0][64 bit] 10bit Language : English Default : No Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Original source medium : Blu-ray |
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As for the levels -- BD-RB leaves it to the encoder (both have defaults set at auto). But I'm surprised they are different, since the settings for encoding are virtually identical. The level is usually influenced by the maximum bitrate selected by BD-RB. But it is the same for both encoders. I'll take a look at it and see why they are different. Last edited by jdobbs; 14th March 2021 at 01:50. |
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150+ fps sounds like 1080p and I remember you mentioning the 12+ hours came from some UHD ... On UHD NVENCC I get around 40fps on my system |
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Still only one pass, so the jury is still out on the picture quality differences compared to x265 two pass and L5.1 vs NVENC one pass and L4.1. Maybe someone can try both and chime in. Thanks for all your replies... Last edited by spotswood; 14th March 2021 at 21:25. |
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Try encoding using CQM -- that way you know you are getting quality roughly equal to X265 (at least in my tests). |
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---------------------- [03/14/21] BD Rebuilder v0.61.21 [13:28:09] Source: THE_FIFTH_ELEMENT_00001 - Input BD size: 35.37 GB - Approximate total content: [02:05:53.546] - Target BD size: 25.00 GB - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200] - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled - Quality: Highest (Very Slow), CQM - Decoding/Frame serving: NVENCC - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640 [13:28:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding - [13:28:09] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1) - [13:28:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001] - [13:31:58] Reencoding video [VID_00001] - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 181,104 frames - [13:31:58] Performing CQM Prediction... - Analyzing 6.00 [13:32:00] - Failed video encode, aborted Uh oh, here we go again. But I went back and found your post about using FIXED_CRF=n. When using your starting point of 28 it worked, although the resulting job finished a little undersized. After a couple attempts (thanks to NVENC) I settled on 19, which gave me a finished size of 25GB, right on target. Yeah, I'm sure your 1660 is a little faster than my 1060. Thought about upgrading but the prices are still a little too high for me. Think I'll stick with this poor man's UHD for the time being... ;^) |
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So here's a couple screenshots from The Fifth Element using that famous close-up of Leeloo at 30:38. The first one is with x265 HEVC High Quality Two-Pass (the one that took 12+ hours). The second is using NVENC HEVC Highest Quality CQM Fixed_Crf=19 (that only took 30min). I'll be damned if they don't look exactly the same! I'm sold, guess I'll be using NVENC from now on...
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Exactly! I've been using your advise since way back. My ears can't tell the difference... |
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Who is the manufacturer, name, specs., of your GTX1660 6GB?
Found lots of different names and specs... ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, Gainward, Palit, PNY, EVGA, Zotac... Thanks for any info. Best regards, varekai Last edited by varekai; 17th March 2021 at 08:53. Reason: GTX1660 6GB |
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I've been told that GTX-1660s have gotten popular and are getting harder to find (and more expensive) -- but I haven't really done any research. I bought mine for $238. Last edited by jdobbs; 17th March 2021 at 14:17. |
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BTW... what email do I use for a donation? My stimulus check hit my account today... ;^) Last edited by spotswood; 17th March 2021 at 22:18. |
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