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i well know the HDMI spec. Quote:
and what software deinterlancer are you using in realtime which your HTPC? |
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aren't they interlaced ? so what's the point of this discussion ? better 60i to deinterlaced 60/2 fps UHD rgb 10bit 4:4:4 or deinterlaced 60/2*2 fps UHD rgb 8bit 4:4:4 or 60i deinterlaced 60/2*2 fps UHD YCbCr 4:2:2 ? who knows? could be personal decision ? until hdmi stardad is like that, ppl have to deal with.
always imho
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HDMI 2.1 will be nice but people care about 10/12 bit way too much, at least on most displays and using madVR it offers a very minimal quality improvement. If you want 60 Hz use 8 bit RGB, it is great quality and you probably couldn't tell whether or not it was using 10 or 12 bit in a blind test.
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ok so know makes sense. I thought they still are interlaced the UHD broadcasting. so no other choice for hdmi than YCbCr.
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I never deinterlace a source when creating a file, only while playing a deinterlacer should be placed. It doesn‘t matter which one of LAV you use, you will never get a better deinterlacer in a tv. If you use a madvr, you also prefer the updcaling of it and don‘t let your tv handle it, right? |
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Some people seem to think that replying to any post means you need to quote the entire thing or have no idea they can alter it. I'd guess about 25% of this thread is pointless quoting. Just mention it whenever it becomes a problem, I'd think some have learned as I've mentioned it multiple times. Would be nice if there was a mod here but it's not a huge problem, not a lot of newcomers so things should improve.
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madVr doesn't support proper interlanced output.
the RGB conversation is enough to ruin it so it is not really possible to test Tv deinterlancer with it. on the other hand YADIf will not "win" against a frame addptive deinterlanced that is used in GPU hardware deinterlancer. while software deinterlancing has the "best" deinterlancer "QTGMC" which is hard to do in real time hardware deinterlancer are consider to be the part of the better ones. edit: fixed major typo Last edited by huhn; 12th October 2018 at 00:16. |
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The only real issue right now is that madvr can't deinterlace with the D3D11 decoder....at least not yet. Once it can, it'll be a good option.
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Something weird that happened ...
All this time I used Nvidia Output Dynamic Range - FULL - TV was set Black level - HIGH , MADVR was set to 0-255 . now suddenly when I watch a movie I see crushed blacks ... it didn't happen before 1809 I think or with other nvidia drivers. I am not sure when it was working fine . I usually watch HDR so it's limited there but I will also check this... what this setting needs to be with HDR in MADVR ? Do we need to set 16-235 always now in MADVR even with OLED FULL Range support ? LG OLED E6 5.30.30 ISF Dark Movie profile - Black Level - AUTO (HIGH) Windows 10 1809 17763.55 Nvidia 1080 416.16 set to FULL and Use Default color settings Last edited by x7007; 12th October 2018 at 06:31. |
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but it also worked 416.16 ... with hdr what do you set Madvr ? 16-235 or 0-255 ?
Weird,,,, HDR works fine with 0-255.... why SDR doesn't work now , I am sure it works fine before.... Anyone notice this also or something else ?? it really crush the black ( picture ) and it didn't do before, it just made it look better , making the washed up white light thing ... If someone knows something or can check it please write ,,, I have no idea what's wrong . is that how it suppose to be ? If I choose for example Nvidia - Limited . TV - LOW Madvr 0-255 ? would it work or I get also crash ? I mean it worked fine like this also before. ******* NEVER MIND I've found the issue, some of the potplayer settings has been change maybe some shortcuts I accidently clicked ..... rofl.......... some numbers with the bars has been somehow moved ... so I reverted them to 50% ![]() Last edited by x7007; 12th October 2018 at 07:40. |
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Hey Guys, I've got a repeated frames glitch when starting a video file. The audio plays in the background but, the video portion initially freezes. This started after the latest windows 10 and nvidia upgrade, never had it before. It can freeze for up to 10 seconds sometimes. Anyone else seeing this? It is not exclusive to any one video.
https://imgur.com/a/t8eGSZZ on average it repeats about 900 frames before the video kicks in. Once the video eventually begins playing I have no other issues for the remainder of playback. MPC-HC 64 bit (tried both 1.7 and 1.8 builds) External Lav (latest night build 73.0-1) MADVR 92.17 (CPU Queue Size 16 and GPU Queue of 12) If I use EVR custom Presenter instead of madvr I get Instant playback. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling madvr as well. - toggling between options for fullscreen exclusive mode and Direct3D 11 for Presentation had no effect. Last edited by austonrush; 12th October 2018 at 10:47. |
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had this problem too, after I updated Win10 to 1809. Did a restore to 1803 and everything is good again. The update also destroyed my ati driver panel. Did not have the tab to change RGB values after the update. Maybe you should try a clean Install of Win10 1809 with latest nvidia drivers.
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+1 for "add grain" as separate feature instead of being "upscale refinement".
When I use SVP, I don't know how to hack the scripts to include AddGrain for FFDShow. And FFDShow's own filter is nowhere near nice enough as AVS AddGrain. Even at 4, it doesn't seem to do as much as what AddGrain AVS can do.
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