madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[Klaus1189]

Originally Posted by mclingo

Hi, no point really, its immediately apparent with any movie you play when you have the problem, the colours are very saturated especially red.

to recap - to reproduce this with your setup you will need:

TV - setup in BLURAY mode rather than PC
TV - deep colour must be on
PC - desktop must be 4:4:4 FULL RGB 8bit - 2160p
PC - Movie must be SDR and play at 2160p@23hzhz (23,976)
AMD RX card, any driver.
MADVR - TV output set to 10 bit
MADVR - FSE has to be on (I think, i'll test this later)
MADVR - tick use DIRECT3D11

Everything checked, but unsure about deep colour, I have checked "HDMI UHD Color" in TV, is it that feature?

Can not reproduce.

[huhn]

@mclingo

this problem happens with MPDN if i remember correct yes?

first issue i see here. you tell people to use 8 bit output at the GPU but madVR is supposed to output 10 bit.

the issue i see here is that AMD is going to "fix" this and there is nothing madVR can do about it.

the steps i see to isolate this issue are:
GPU at 23p 10 bit RGB madVR at 8 bit
GPU at 23p 10 bit RGB madVR at 10 bit
GPU at 23p 8 bit RGB madVR at 10 bit
GPU at 23p 8 bit RGB madVR at 8 bit

everything points at the GPU driver or display but...

[suanm]

Originally Posted by SamuriHL

What is your target NIT level set to?

No matter level I set nit to,the images of HDR movies look always very dark.
I do these tests from 599 nits to 1099 nits.The tagert nit value doesn't work

[suanm]

Originally Posted by SamuriHL

What is your target NIT level set to?

I have to roll madvr0.92.14 back due to too dark images in madVR 0.92.16

[SamuriHL]

Originally Posted by suanm

No matter level I set nit to,the images of HDR movies look always very dark.
I do these tests from 599 nits to 1099 nits.The tagert nit value doesn't work

Originally Posted by suanm

I have to roll madvr0.92.14 back due to too dark images in madVR 0.92.16

Stupid question....you're not on the nVidia 4xx driver are you?

[suanm]

Originally Posted by SamuriHL

Stupid question....you're not on the nVidia 4xx driver are you?

Ah ,nvidia 4xx driver is a must? I don't know really .I'm using nvidia 398.xx driver.So i have to download 4xx driver。Thank you very much

[mclingo]

Originally Posted by suanm

I have to roll madvr0.92.14 back due to too dark images in madVR 0.92.16

double check you PC levels havent changed in MADVR, mine are set to 0-255 and my PC desktop is set to FULL RGB 4:4:4

[mrmojo666]

Originally Posted by mclingo

Hi, no point really, its immediately apparent with any movie you play when you have the problem, the colours are very saturated especially red.

to recap - to reproduce this with your setup you will need:

TV - setup in BLURAY mode rather than PC
TV - deep colour must be on
PC - desktop must be 4:4:4 FULL RGB 8bit - 2160p
PC - Movie must be SDR and play at 2160p@23hzhz (23,976)
AMD RX card, any driver.
MADVR - TV output set to 10 bit
MADVR - FSE has to be on (I think, i'll test this later)
MADVR - tick use DIRECT3D11

same here, but my desktop is 10 bit

[BluesFanUK]

I'm sure I read here you can get 10bit in windowed mode on Windows 10... how?

[huhn]

by setting madVR to 10 bit using d3d11 and only in boarderless windowed.

[mclingo]

Originally Posted by mrmojo666

same here, but my desktop is 10 bit

Hi, its worth getting some info about what PC and kit you have onto your SIG mate.

[Klaus1189]

Originally Posted by mrmojo666

same here, but my desktop is 10 bit

but not at 3840x2160@50/59/60 Hz if you are using HDMI.
We must wait for HDMI 2.1

Originally Posted by BluesFanUK

I'm sure I read here you can get 10bit in windowed mode on Windows 10... how?

1. You need 10 bit display -> see EDID in madVR options in properties of device.
2. If your display supports 10 bit, madVR should with default setting "auto" 10 bit windowed. It does it also here, so it is working fine.

[huhn]

the display edid or bit deep has nothing todo if you are able to use 10 bit windowed.

in the end madVR is not sending the image to your display it is sending to the GPU driver.

[brazen1]

Originally Posted by brazen1

I've been using madVR v0.92.14 with no problems. I just installed the new madVR v0.92.15 released today carrying over settings from v0.92.14. MPC-HC starts with a black screen and no OSD. I assume it is paused which it is and I press play even though there is no OSD. My display flashes into HDR mode. Audio begins and the picture is frozen on a single frame. If I navigate forward or reverse, the movie begins to play normally. So I start with MPC-BE instead and none of this funny business occurs. It just starts and plays like it should. Both MPC players use identical settings. I'm using the latest current nightly builds of each. Both players performed as expected before upgrading to v.0.92.15 fwiw.

I have upgraded to v.0.92.16. The above ^ still occurs and there is no change. This behavior occurs on all formats and containers (HDR, SDR, ISO, MKV, etc).

I have always used LAV D3D11/auto. If I switch to DXVA 2 copy back/GTX 960, at least the MPC-HC OSD is present but without fail, it starts paused.

To be clear, this is not a complaint and just presenting a bug. Very appreciative madshi continues development and all of us hamsters would be lost without madVR and madshi's continued dedication. Thank you.

[SamuriHL]

Originally Posted by suanm

Ah ,nvidia 4xx driver is a must? I don't know really .I'm using nvidia 398.xx driver.So i have to download 4xx driver。Thank you very much

No no no! LOL Don't do that. Sorry I got pulled away and didn't get a chance to respond til now. I wanted to make sure you're NOT on 4xx!!!!

[Klaus1189]

Originally Posted by brazen1

I have upgraded to v.0.92.16. The above ^ still occurs and there is no change. This behavior occurs on all formats and containers (HDR, SDR, ISO, MKV, etc).

I have always used LAV D3D11/auto. If I switch to DXVA 2 copy back/GTX 960, at least the MPC-HC OSD is present but without fail, it starts paused.

To be clear, this is not a complaint and just presenting a bug. Very appreciative madshi continues development and all of us hamsters would be lost without madVR and madshi's continued dedication. Thank you.

What splitter and decoder do you use?
Try external LAV Filters latest nightly, prefer all 4 filters.

[suanm]

Originally Posted by mclingo

double check you PC levels havent changed in MADVR, mine are set to 0-255 and my PC desktop is set to FULL RGB 4:4:4

It seems not to work yet even if i set tv-level(16-235).
I've uninstalled madVR 0.92.16 version.Reinstalled old madVR0.92.14 version.All is normal as usual.
Thank you very much.

[brazen1]

As stated, I am and always have used LAV Filters and yes of course, they are all set to preferred. They are updated and replaced into the MPC-HC LAV Filter x64 install folder as well. Fwiw, I have always used 5 players for testing and usage over the years and have a fair idea of the basics for all of them. Everything I use is the latest release preferring its nightly except nVidia GPU drivers which continue to be flawed since v.385.28.

[mrmojo666]

sometimes you guys makes me crazy , it's pretty obvious that my desktop is 10 bit @23,9.... to watch hdr movie......
my tv accepts 8/10/12 bit signals by edid.... c'mon guys......

[Klaus1189]

Originally Posted by mrmojo666

sometimes you guys makes me crazy , it's pretty obvious that my desktop is 10 bit @23,9.... to watch hdr movie......
my tv accepts 8/10/12 bit signals by edid.... c'mon guys......

I don't know anything else that I can do, let me know if you know something.