MadVR in use with LG OLED Thread - Page 29

Magik Mark · 15th January 2020, 09:48

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Originally Posted by Asmodian

Make sure the 4K resolutions are first, or are you using separate profiles? If you are, what is your profile rule?
Are you sure it is ever using the 4K profile?

Thanks. I think your solution is way better.

Do you happen to know how to use CRU in making customize refresh rates for the ff:

2160p@23hz
1080p@119hz

The timings are way off. I think LG doesn't even support it

nevcairiel · 15th January 2020, 11:01

I would personally not recommend to switch resolution. Players/Windows can get confused by that and trip a high-DPI mode, resulting in double-scaling.

Magik Mark · 15th January 2020, 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

I would personally not recommend to switch resolution. Players/Windows can get confused by that and trip a high-DPI mode, resulting in double-scaling.

You are right. Image is a bit bigger

Anymore tips for using madvr and LAV in LG OLED?

VBB · 15th January 2020, 18:54

Some of us are now using 2160p@60Hz exclusively along with madvr's smooth motion. This results in, well, smoother motion on the OLED

And, as most of you know by now, I've been advocating YCbCr 4:2:2 10-bit for virtually no banding at all. No regrets so far.

iSeries · 15th January 2020, 23:14

For sure smooth motion at 60hz is much smoother than 23p and Real Cinema. The extra blurring does bother me a bit though. Actually I've gone back to 23p and trying Trumotion. LG must have improved this at some point because last time I tried it there were too many artifacts, but dejudder on 2 and i have yet to see any artifacts and the motion is smooth with minimal soap opera effect.

Ycbcr 422 10 bit looks good to me, too. Thanks for testing it! I did a few tests of my own and it does look good.

quietvoid · 15th January 2020, 23:44

I haven't looked at test patterns but with RGB 8 bit output on the GPU, I never see banding where there shouldn't be on my C8.
Nor do I notice anything wrong with motion with 2160p23
Maybe I'm just not as picky..

Magik Mark · 16th January 2020, 00:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by VBB

Some of us are now using 2160p@60Hz exclusively along with madvr's smooth motion. This results in, well, smoother motion on the OLED

And, as most of you know by now, I've been advocating YCbCr 4:2:2 10-bit for virtually no banding at all. No regrets so far.

Do you also set madvr to 10bit?

SamuriHL · 16th January 2020, 00:52

Yes, and full.

Magik Mark · 16th January 2020, 00:56

Thanks SamuriHL.

VBB you are right! Image looks better at YCbCr 4:2:2 10-bit. Shadow details are more conspicuous

Magik Mark · 16th January 2020, 01:18

Is it also the same to you guys? I can't get fullscreen exclusive. Only 8bit window

Maybe I missed something?

SamuriHL · 16th January 2020, 01:49

If you're on windows 10, use window mode as full screen exclusive doesn't work on later windows 10 builds. I've not had any issues with window mode.

VBB · 16th January 2020, 04:40

@Magik Mark - Yes to FS windowed, madVR 10-bit 0-255, OLED Black Level Low. There is a bug in madVR, where it sometimes switches back to 8-bit playback, even though everything is set to 10-bit. When that happens, only a reboot fixes it for me.

Magik Mark · 16th January 2020, 05:42

Thanks VBB & SamuriHL

Magik Mark · 16th January 2020, 13:56

I have also observed that indicating your actual number of CPU threads in "Threads for MultiThreading" found in LAV Video Decoder gives smoother playback especially when running your CPU in almost full load, just liken when encoding videos.

All along I thought NGU AA very high was the culprit in dropping frames. I was mistaken.

huhn · 16th January 2020, 16:39

you could use hardware decoding which ignores this option.

biship · 16th January 2020, 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by huhn

you could use hardware decoding which ignores this option.

What setting(s) switch from software to hardware decoding?

huhn · 16th January 2020, 17:08

under video settings in the hardware acceleration tab.

chros · 16th January 2020, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asmodian

LG is bragging that they fixed HDR for low latency gaming. I am hopeful this will apply to PC mode as well, but we will have to see. On my C7 and C9 HDR in PC mode is simply not good enough.

That's good news, do you have a link? But since the SoC is not much different compared to last year (alpha 9 gen 2 vs gen 3), I can't imagine where the improvemnt comes from, firmware?

Teddy_McFluff · 16th January 2020, 22:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by VBB

@Magik Mark - Yes to FS windowed, madVR 10-bit 0-255, OLED Black Level Low. There is a bug in madVR, where it sometimes switches back to 8-bit playback, even though everything is set to 10-bit. When that happens, only a reboot fixes it for me.

Wouldn't that have crushed blacks for if the tv is set on low? Do I have madvr, GPU, tv set @ low high low? If not let me know as I'm trying to fix my set up I'm using potplayer though with madvr with lav

VBB · 16th January 2020, 23:05

With video card limited, madVR full, and TV low, everything would be fine. Another option would be video card full, madVR full, TV high. Any reason why you're doing what you're doing?

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nevcairiel Registered Developer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hamburg/Germany Posts: 10,348	I would personally not recommend to switch resolution. Players/Windows can get confused by that and trip a high-DPI mode, resulting in double-scaling. __________________ LAV Filters - open source ffmpeg based media splitter and decoders

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VBB Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Long Beach, CA, USA Posts: 620	Some of us are now using 2160p@60Hz exclusively along with madvr's smooth motion. This results in, well, smoother motion on the OLED And, as most of you know by now, I've been advocating YCbCr 4:2:2 10-bit for virtually no banding at all. No regrets so far. __________________ Henry \| LG OLED65C7P \| Denon AVR-X3500H \| ELAC Uni-Fi x7 \| ELAC Debut 2.0 SUB3030 x2 \| NVIDIA SHIELD TV Pro 2019 \| Plex

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quietvoid Registered User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Canada Posts: 574	I haven't looked at test patterns but with RGB 8 bit output on the GPU, I never see banding where there shouldn't be on my C8. Nor do I notice anything wrong with motion with 2160p23 Maybe I'm just not as picky.. Last edited by quietvoid; 15th January 2020 at 23:46.

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SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	Yes, and full. __________________ HTPC: Windows 11, AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG G2 77" OLED

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Magik Mark Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 666	Thanks SamuriHL. VBB you are right! Image looks better at YCbCr 4:2:2 10-bit. Shadow details are more conspicuous __________________ Asus ProArt Z790 - 13th Gen Intel i9 - RTX 3080 - DDR5 64GB Predator - LG OLED C9 - Yamaha A3030 - Windows 11 x64 - PotPlayerr - Lav - MadVR

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iSeries Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 625	For sure smooth motion at 60hz is much smoother than 23p and Real Cinema. The extra blurring does bother me a bit though. Actually I've gone back to 23p and trying Trumotion. LG must have improved this at some point because last time I tried it there were too many artifacts, but dejudder on 2 and i have yet to see any artifacts and the motion is smooth with minimal soap opera effect. Ycbcr 422 10 bit looks good to me, too. Thanks for testing it! I did a few tests of my own and it does look good.

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Magik Mark Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 666	Is it also the same to you guys? I can't get fullscreen exclusive. Only 8bit window Maybe I missed something? __________________ Asus ProArt Z790 - 13th Gen Intel i9 - RTX 3080 - DDR5 64GB Predator - LG OLED C9 - Yamaha A3030 - Windows 11 x64 - PotPlayerr - Lav - MadVR

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SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	If you're on windows 10, use window mode as full screen exclusive doesn't work on later windows 10 builds. I've not had any issues with window mode. __________________ HTPC: Windows 11, AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG G2 77" OLED

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VBB Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Long Beach, CA, USA Posts: 620	@Magik Mark - Yes to FS windowed, madVR 10-bit 0-255, OLED Black Level Low. There is a bug in madVR, where it sometimes switches back to 8-bit playback, even though everything is set to 10-bit. When that happens, only a reboot fixes it for me. __________________ Henry \| LG OLED65C7P \| Denon AVR-X3500H \| ELAC Uni-Fi x7 \| ELAC Debut 2.0 SUB3030 x2 \| NVIDIA SHIELD TV Pro 2019 \| Plex

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Magik Mark Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 666	Thanks VBB & SamuriHL __________________ Asus ProArt Z790 - 13th Gen Intel i9 - RTX 3080 - DDR5 64GB Predator - LG OLED C9 - Yamaha A3030 - Windows 11 x64 - PotPlayerr - Lav - MadVR

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Magik Mark Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 666	I have also observed that indicating your actual number of CPU threads in "Threads for MultiThreading" found in LAV Video Decoder gives smoother playback especially when running your CPU in almost full load, just liken when encoding videos. All along I thought NGU AA very high was the culprit in dropping frames. I was mistaken. __________________ Asus ProArt Z790 - 13th Gen Intel i9 - RTX 3080 - DDR5 64GB Predator - LG OLED C9 - Yamaha A3030 - Windows 11 x64 - PotPlayerr - Lav - MadVR

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huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,926	you could use hardware decoding which ignores this option.

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huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,926	under video settings in the hardware acceleration tab.

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VBB Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Long Beach, CA, USA Posts: 620	With video card limited, madVR full, and TV low, everything would be fine. Another option would be video card full, madVR full, TV high. Any reason why you're doing what you're doing? __________________ Henry \| LG OLED65C7P \| Denon AVR-X3500H \| ELAC Uni-Fi x7 \| ELAC Debut 2.0 SUB3030 x2 \| NVIDIA SHIELD TV Pro 2019 \| Plex Last edited by VBB; 16th January 2020 at 23:09.