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Old 20th September 2018, 12:21   #52561  |  Link
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Since it is a Samsung series 7 from 2016, I had to rename the HDMI port to the predefined name Bluray player, is that right?
I couldn't see any difference, it is fine here, too. I set it back to my preferred mode. If you want me to test anything else, let me know.

Why do you use 8 bit? HDR should be 10 bit, isn't it?
Not sure to be honest, the HDMI ports usually have a mode you can select as well as a rename.

I just use 8 bit desktop, it should switch to 10 bit automatically when a movie plays. I also get the problem if I set my desktop to ybcr 10 bit 4:2:2 / 4:2:0 etc.
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Old 20th September 2018, 12:35   #52562  |  Link
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Congrats on your latest HDR conversion improvements, madshi. I think you really nailed it down with it, just looks fantastic. The new highlight detail reconstruction also really does wonders, without destroying too much.
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Old 20th September 2018, 12:36   #52563  |  Link
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It got also another icon - a blu ray standalone player in my samsung when I selected that mode. Another name of a preset is PC, so I think it is the pc mode, but I don't use it. My older LG TV has similar presets to choose.
I use just straight HDMI and Gaming mode to ensure true framerate of the files, not soap opera.
I went to a local TV store, and saw that every TV, it doesn't matter if it is OLED, LCD with LED backlights or the manufacturer like Samsung, LG, Philips, Loewe, Panasonic, Sony, ... the motion interpolation get sometimes stuck, because the scene changes. It looks awful. I only want to see the true encoded frames.
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Old 20th September 2018, 12:45   #52564  |  Link
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@madshi: I know it's not in the change list, but did you happen to fix the issue with Blu-ray menus in JRiver MC?
Yes, thats fixed. It actually is in the change list, its this one:
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* fixed: OSD API sometimes drew stuff in the wrong position
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Old 20th September 2018, 12:56   #52565  |  Link
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It got also another icon - a blu ray standalone player in my samsung when I selected that mode. Another name of a preset is PC, so I think it is the pc mode, but I don't use it. My older LG TV has similar presets to choose.
I use just straight HDMI and Gaming mode to ensure true framerate of the files, not soap opera.
I went to a local TV store, and saw that every TV, it doesn't matter if it is OLED, LCD with LED backlights or the manufacturer like Samsung, LG, Philips, Loewe, Panasonic, Sony, ... the motion interpolation get sometimes stuck, because the scene changes. It looks awful. I only want to see the true encoded frames.
Hi, yes I know why poeple dont tend to use anything but game and PC mode but i'm asking you to try it because i'm trying to find out if there is a subset of AMD users with the oversaturation problem, if there are more people there is more chance MADSHI will be able to work out where this is coming from and maybe find a workaround, or can suggest something I can take back to AMD to have them look at.

it may even just a subset of some HDR tv's
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Old 20th September 2018, 13:13   #52566  |  Link
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Upload a cutout mkv file of 20 secs or so from the scene of the blu-ray, I think it was star wars, I don't find the screenshots at the moment. I test the file for you.
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Old 20th September 2018, 13:17   #52567  |  Link
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Thanks for confirming the the oversat issue, what do you mean by windowed, windows overlay in MADVR? or windowed mode in your movie player, or something else, the only workaround I can really use is claibrating my TV for BT2020 in MADVR
I mean no FSE selected in madvr, madvr osd says windowed, in this case colors are ok
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Old 20th September 2018, 13:24   #52568  |  Link
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Just installed 18.9.2 for my Radeon RX480 8GB, did a complete reset of madVR settings just to be sure, configured new and it is working perfectly, HDR switching is working fine for me as it did the past month with everytime the newest driver of its time (also optional versions).
-> Not a issue in madVR
I'm glad and good to know for you is ok, unfortunately we are more than one with the same problem: we need to cherry pick a driver that works.
would be great to know how you have configured your madvr. maybe we have different setups.
how can you be sure that is not madvr issue, maybe in some cases the switch require to be fired before refresh change or after or it's just matter of something else.
At any case "work in my machine" doesn't help in software development.
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Old 20th September 2018, 13:26   #52569  |  Link
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411.63 broke NV HDR for me. When starting an HDR video the TV flashes the HDR icon a few times but then returns to SDR mode. Went back to 399.24 and it's working again.
OS HDR still works with 411.63 though.

This is on Win10 1803, 1050Ti, LG Oled C8.

Anyone able to confirm the broken NV HDR with 411.63?
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Old 20th September 2018, 13:32   #52570  |  Link
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411.63 broke NV HDR for me. When starting an HDR video the TV flashes the HDR icon a few times but then returns to SDR mode. Went back to 399.24 and it's working again.
OS HDR still works with 411.63 though.

This is on Win10 1803, 1050Ti, LG Oled C8.

Anyone able to confirm the broken NV HDR with 411.63?
working fine here, although I now use the HDR to SDR algo.
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I'm glad and good to know for you is ok, unfortunately we are more than one with the same problem: we need to cherry pick a driver that works.
would be great to know how you have configured your madvr. maybe we have different setups.
how can you be sure that is not madvr issue, maybe in some cases the switch require to be fired before refresh change or after or it's just matter of something else.
At any case "work in my machine" doesn't help in software development.
What do need to know?
Some infos right away:
4930k with ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
MSI AMD Radeon RX480 8GB Gaming X
Win10 Pro 1803 64bit
latest very new Radeon driver 18.9.2
MPC-BE 1.5.2.3973 beta from sourceforge (digitally signed) from today
(the last days, weeks and month always Nightly of its day)

What player do you use?
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Old 20th September 2018, 13:48   #52572  |  Link
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What do need to know?
Some infos right away:
4930k with ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
MSI AMD Radeon RX480 8GB Gaming X
Win10 Pro 1803 64bit
latest very new Radeon driver 18.9.2
MPC-BE 1.5.2.3973 beta from sourceforge (digitally signed) from today
(the last days, weeks and month always Nightly of its day)

What player do you use?
for example, do you refresh changer ? , how many bits you configured monitor properties in madvr, on amd driver ? do you fse or not etc etc.

On my system i have mpchc and mediaportal
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for example, do you refresh changer ? , how many bits you configured monitor properties in madvr, on amd driver ? do you fse or not
I use refresh rate changer in madVR, auto in madVR, 10 bits in driver, already stated that on 1803 FSE isn't true FSE anymore, so I don't use FSE.

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etc etc.
I don't know, let know if need anything else

Samsung series 7 2016 connected with HDMI cable direct to RX480
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Old 20th September 2018, 14:05   #52574  |  Link
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Was a problematic setting or a conflict between stored registry settings and the ini file in the media player folder.. sorted it
What exactly did you change? I have the same issue with MPC-BE?
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Old 20th September 2018, 14:22   #52575  |  Link
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The images of UHD HDR movies look very very dark with the new madVR0.92.16 version,hardly see anything in 'process HDR content by using pixel shader math' mode on my TV set。On the contrary once when I choose the 'passthrough HDR content to the dispay' mode.the images go immediately very very clear.Wondering what's going on?
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I exported my settings to ini, made sure that settings were to be saved to ini via general settings and then deleted the ini keeping the exported one to copy whatever I needed from it into a new ini if required. It appears I have everything I wanted already stored in the BE registry keys so I didn't need to do anything after that, I'll get aleksoid to look into it though this isn't the first issue I've had with BE and it's settings.

Suanm play with your target nits.

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Subtitles are fine for me.
Thanks for confirming. I'll figure out what's going on. I'm currently having nVidia driver issues (go figure) and am reverting to the previous version to see if it fixes an HDR issue I'm having. After that I'll look at this subtitle thing again.

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Yup now working fine for me! Looking good so far
That's great! I'll figure out what's going on once I get this HDR thing sorted out.

EDIT: Stupid MKV's. For some reason it wasn't selecting the forced sub track automatically. All problems solved. Thanks guys!
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Upload a cutout mkv file of 20 secs or so from the scene of the blu-ray, I think it was star wars, I don't find the screenshots at the moment. I test the file for you.
Hi, no point really, its immediately apparent with any movie you play when you have the problem, the colours are very saturated especially red.

to recap - to reproduce this with your setup you will need:

TV - setup in BLURAY mode rather than PC
TV - deep colour must be on
PC - desktop must be 4:4:4 FULL RGB 8bit - 2160p
PC - Movie must be SDR and play at 2160p@23hzhz (23,976)
AMD RX card, any driver.
MADVR - TV output set to 10 bit
MADVR - FSE has to be on (I think, i'll test this later)
MADVR - tick use DIRECT3D11
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411.63 broke NV HDR for me. When starting an HDR video the TV flashes the HDR icon a few times but then returns to SDR mode. Went back to 399.24 and it's working again.
OS HDR still works with 411.63 though.

This is on Win10 1803, 1050Ti, LG Oled C8.

Anyone able to confirm the broken NV HDR with 411.63?
Yes. Just went through this nightmare of figuring it out. Wish I had seen your post first. Exact same issue.
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The images of UHD HDR movies look very very dark with the new madVR0.92.16 version,hardly see anything in 'process HDR content by using pixel shader math' mode on my TV set。On the contrary once when I choose the 'passthrough HDR content to the dispay' mode.the images go immediately very very clear.Wondering what's going on?
What is your target NIT level set to?
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