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Old 18th June 2019, 12:27   #6361  |  Link
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thanks for the info.

as a small thing that should be easy to add bicubic 150 is considered to be the "best" simple downscaler can you add it?
"Bicubic" already is present.
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"Bicubic" already is present.
Specifically he wants Bicubic 150.
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Specifically he wants Bicubic 150.
So what ?? Why ??
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So what ?? Why ??
It's the sharpest of all the available Bicubic options. It's well known to be one of the lightest and best quality downscalers available.
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Old 18th June 2019, 13:26   #6365  |  Link
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We use cubic convolution with a = -0.5.
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// bicubic
#define filter_support (2.0)
inline float filter(float x)
{
    /* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicubic_interpolation#Bicubic_convolution_algorithm */
#define a -0.5
    if (x < 0.0)
        x = -x;
    if (x < 1.0)
        return ((a + 2.0) * x - (a + 3.0)) * x*x + 1;
    if (x < 2.0)
        return (((x - 5) * x + 8) * x - 4) * a;
    return 0.0;
#undef a
}
What it does not suit you? Please give real examples.
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Old 18th June 2019, 13:37   #6366  |  Link
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i'm going to research the different weight and make an example but this will take sometime
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Old 19th June 2019, 00:31   #6367  |  Link
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Could you make local time a toggle on/off just like remaining time which is CTRL+I..
I like it that way so I can see what is left to play and what the actual time is

Thanks in advanced

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Could you make local time a toggle on/off
It already is.

OSD: Local Time. Key = i

I press i and the time comes up, I press i again and the time goes away.
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i'm going to research the different weight and make an example but this will take sometime
Where can get it's "Bicubic150" shader ?
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Ok, it would be nice to have local time on screen all of the time just like remaining time..

Exit out of mpc-be, then go back into mpc_be and start another movie, one has to turn local time back on again..
Whera as time remaning is there permanent..
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Local time in OSD is not remember after close.
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ok it's just a -1.5.

i changed it and build it on my PC.
i couldn't figure out how to add one more filter to the list and name it so i just change bicubic a to -1.5.

screens:
madVR bicubic 150: https://abload.de/img/madvrbicubic150rmjc8.png
mpcVR bicubic 150: https://abload.de/img/mpcvrudjok.png

source: http://vah.dy.fi/testcard/3840x2160.png

my recommendation would be bicubic 60 (same as in mpc-be) and bicubic 150 downscale only so -0.6 and -1.5.

another real world example:
mpcVRbicubic50: https://abload.de/img/bicubic60n7kpj.png
mpcVRbicubic150: https://abload.de/img/bicubic150fvkhe.png

source: http://uhd-wallpapers.net/images/ven...canal_542.jpeg
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You are right - 150 is more "Sharper" then 50.
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it rings a lot that's why it is only recommended for downscaling while sharp upscaling looks really bad.

of cause there is another one even better algorithm ssim: https://github.com/zachsaw/MPDN_Exte...SSimDownscaler

but bicubic 150 should be good enough for most user.
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How's the MPC Video Renderer handle chroma upscaling (to luma resolution), and can it be customized or will you consider customizing it?

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MPC Video Renderer v0.2.0.658.

tested it, really like it.. Only thing is that it does not support shaders?
If i use teh MPC Video Renderer v0.2.0.658 and enable my deband shader it wont work.. is there a reason for that?

THX..
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How's the MPC Video Renderer handle chroma upscaling (to luma resolution), and can it be customized or will you consider customizing it?
To convert YUV 4:2:0/4:2:2 to RGB, use the DXVA2 or D3D11 video processor.

If you have examples that show the difference between bilinear and bicubic/lanczos chroma upscaling, then I will ask you to provide it to us.

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If i use teh MPC Video Renderer v0.2.0.658 and enable my deband shader it wont work.. is there a reason for that?
MPC VR does not support external shaders.

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chroma scaler had been check a countless time in the madVR but i can do you another test with it.

the biggest problem is nvidia right now there DXVA chroma scaler is moving the chroma which can results in a lot of aliasing. this has been tested with EVR and madVR. even a simple bicubic 60 should be far better.
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chroma scaler had been check a countless time in the madVR but i can do you another test with it.
I repeat. I need a test file where people can see the difference between bilinear and bicubic/lanczos chroma upscaling.

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the biggest problem is nvidia right now there DXVA chroma scaler is moving the chroma which can results in a lot of aliasing. this has been tested with EVR and madVR. even a simple bicubic 60 should be far better.
You are exaggerating the problem. When the driver has an error and simply duplicates the color values (nearest neighbor), users quickly notice this. But in other cases, people do not see the difference in their video.

PS: I talked to users who install madVR, put up heavy settings, and then can’t answer the question "What did not suit you in the standard settings?". They just read one of the stupid instructions from the Internet.
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