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Old 12th August 2020, 21:02   #59921  |  Link
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Man, I really wish the Kodi people could somehow support madVR through their video player.

DSPlayer is really getting dated now stuck on Kodi 17.6

I know you can do an external player with Kodi 18/19, but then you lose support for the Kodi playback OSD and Kodi remote controls during playback since it's all happening in a external player.

And none of the external players that support madVR have very nice 10-ft GUIs that you can use to control wuth a remote (like changing audio tracks or selecting subtitle tracks and stuff like that)
I feel the same way SirMaster. It's sad that today we don't have any good option combining the power of MadVR with a nice 10-ft interface. Well, some will say that JRiver is the answer, but I personally think their 10-ft UI is really outdated and I never found an alternative to the need of writing NFO files together with my media. This is a big no-no for me - all clients see my media as read-only.
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Old 12th August 2020, 21:15   #59922  |  Link
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I feel the same way SirMaster. It's sad that today we don't have any good option combining the power of MadVR with a nice 10-ft interface. Well, some will say that JRiver is the answer, but I personally think their 10-ft UI is really outdated and I never found an alternative to the need of writing NFO files together with my media. This is a big no-no for me - all clients see my media as read-only.
I'd love to see Madshi release a customized version of KODI that works with madVR. Madshi and company could fork their own KODI version and provide it for free (open source) and I'd be happy to buy a license for his madVR software. As it stands today, he is making $0 from the 99% of us who will never, ever be able to afford Envy, but I'm thinking he could create a revenue stream from those of us willing to purchase a license (basic? standard? advanced? And monthly? annually? lifetime one-time purchase?) to use madVR.
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Old 12th August 2020, 21:30   #59923  |  Link
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Thanks for the asnwer

But is more than a player, you know only a player or render?

If not I will have to use kodi since madvr is deprecated

Also I read this about kodi

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Thanks for the info.
Player plays all demanding stuff on intel, so dxva is quite well optimized.
[PS. Nah, found some particular problems]

However it treats brightness differently to other players. Some samples looks like not so colourful when played in other players. On the other hand HDR videos are not completely pale, i think player tries to preserve most black/white tonal range upon saturated colours.
But im on internal laptop screen so, maybe will check more options available.
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Old 12th August 2020, 22:18   #59924  |  Link
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However it treats brightness differently to other players. Some samples looks like not so colourful when played in other players. On the other hand HDR videos are not completely pale, i think player tries to preserve most black/white tonal range upon saturated colours.
I hope that isn't true, that would be terrible as a default. I don't want extra colorful colors. My display is calibrated to a standard, output in the correct standard.
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Old 12th August 2020, 23:28   #59925  |  Link
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I feel the same way SirMaster. It's sad that today we don't have any good option combining the power of MadVR with a nice 10-ft interface. Well, some will say that JRiver is the answer, but I personally think their 10-ft UI is really outdated and I never found an alternative to the need of writing NFO files together with my media. This is a big no-no for me - all clients see my media as read-only.
jRiver is great as a player that supports madVR very well, but I find it too limited as a front end.

For the UI, I use CMC (https://chamconsoft.com/cmc/), which replaces WMC and uses the MyMovies collection manager. It supports jRiver as an external player (following my request to add it) perfectly, amongst others.

It works great on the HTPC, completely usable with a remote (or an iPad/iPhone using iRule or similar).

MyMovies also controls the Dune players (directly) and some Oppo players (with a bridge) through its own iOS app, so you can use the same collection manager for both HTPC and standalone players.

Works great for me.
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Old 13th August 2020, 08:35   #59926  |  Link
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VLC player also does this.

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You know any alternative to madvr?
Any other render or player it can passthrough HDR correct

Thanks and regards
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Old 13th August 2020, 10:25   #59927  |  Link
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VLC player also does this.
He can auto switch to HDR too?

If the answer is yes I have my new player
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Old 13th August 2020, 17:11   #59928  |  Link
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I have a problem with madVR and MPC-HC/BE. I've bought an SMSL SP200 amplifier for my headphones, and when I set it to high gain and maximum volume, I can clearly hear a high-pitched and repetitive sound simply when playing video, or when moving the player window, with the player volume at 0. I've tried changing the filters and disabling the Audio Switcher in MPC with no result. If I set the EVR as the renderer, the sound disappears. I can also hear it by clicking the Apply button on any madVR screen. When using any scaler other than NGU, the sound changes and becomes less noticeable, except when moving the player screen.

Of course if I lower the volume of the amplifier, the sound is less perceptible, but it is still quite noticeable with the volume at half, and with less than that I do not get any benefit from the amplifier.
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Old 13th August 2020, 18:00   #59929  |  Link
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your dpundcard/amp is not cleaning the power properly nothing madVR can do about.

could be fixed with a different GPU, could be fixed with a different mainboard, could be fixed with a new PSU, or could be your sound card.
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Old 13th August 2020, 18:27   #59930  |  Link
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What's your sound output? RCA/HDMI? What sound device? Onboard audio/dedicated soundcard?
Can't you try it with a different sound device?
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Old 13th August 2020, 19:22   #59931  |  Link
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I'm using a USB DAC/AMP as DAC and preamp, connected to the SP200 by RCA. I have noticed that it also happens with mpv and even with the EVR when using demanding shaders. Curiously, it doesn't happen with my Fiio E12 also connected by RCA to the 3.5 mm input.

Anyway I bought the SP200 thinking that it would give me more headroom for the high impedance headphones, but since with the E12 I get more or less the same, I'm going to return it.

And yes, I tend to like a fairly high volume for some movies.

Thanks to both of you.
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Old 13th August 2020, 19:33   #59932  |  Link
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looks like your Fiio E12 is a good device.
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Old 13th August 2020, 19:51   #59933  |  Link
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Yes it is, and also durable, I think I bought it in 2013.
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Old 14th August 2020, 12:53   #59934  |  Link
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I'm having issues with changing display modes automatically with profiles.
Does anyone know if there is any bugs with this?

With no profiles madVR changes display modes as expected, but when i set up profiles it doesn't.
The correct profile is marked with bold text in madVR settings, so I believe the correct profile is selected, but it doesn't do anything.

My profile rule is simple:
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if (hdr) "hdr"
else "sdr"
and the selected displaymodes is:

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hdr
2160p23

sdr
2160p29, 2160p30, 2160p50 2160p60

Has anyone experienced anything similar?
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Old 14th August 2020, 13:29   #59935  |  Link
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why would you use a profile for this?
leave the display mode out of it.
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Old 14th August 2020, 13:56   #59936  |  Link
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I'd love to see Madshi release a customized version of KODI that works with madVR. Madshi and company could fork their own KODI version and provide it for free (open source) and I'd be happy to buy a license for his madVR software. As it stands today, he is making $0 from the 99% of us who will never, ever be able to afford Envy, but I'm thinking he could create a revenue stream from those of us willing to purchase a license (basic? standard? advanced? And monthly? annually? lifetime one-time purchase?) to use madVR.
https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=351534
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Old 14th August 2020, 15:51   #59937  |  Link
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That's what I'm already using.
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Old 14th August 2020, 18:53   #59938  |  Link
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why would you use a profile for this?
leave the display mode out of it.
Because of limitations of my TV.
I don't want to use 23,976Hz (and) 24Hz since my TV then reduces to 4:2:2 chroma subsampling. Personally I prefer some frame repeats and full chroma than less frame drops/repeats and reduced chroma subsampling.

The exception is HDR, which I want to transfer with 12/10 bit resolution which I can't do with higher framerates and therefore want 23,976Hz for that.
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Old 15th August 2020, 12:45   #59939  |  Link
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I have the same problem of losing HDR after updating to latest Nvidia drivers, As far as I've read on these forums, is madVR not gonna get any updates?
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Old 16th August 2020, 13:13   #59940  |  Link
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Because of limitations of my TV.
I don't want to use 23,976Hz (and) 24Hz since my TV then reduces to 4:2:2 chroma subsampling. Personally I prefer some frame repeats and full chroma than less frame drops/repeats and reduced chroma subsampling.

The exception is HDR, which I want to transfer with 12/10 bit resolution which I can't do with higher framerates and therefore want 23,976Hz for that.
Damn you samsung, damn you to hell.
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