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Old 14th March 2020, 07:10   #29321  |  Link
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You realize that was 40 years ago?
Aging yourself a bit.

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I still have that LP and ALL of the singles/LPs that I've ever obtained.
The only LPs I kept were of Rush. The only band progressive enough worth keeping..okay, okay, also AC/DC. But Rush..that's golden, _The Best_ when it comes to music. Neil and Geddy made sure those lyrics where unique and honest. Zero fluff.

I left vinyl when CD's started becoming really well made, when "Remasters" were being created. I don't miss the Pops and Hisses of, Hisses of, Hisses of, Hisses of, LPs..and I was also deeply into how to care for them...and much, much more than I'll post here. One thing I do not support is Apple Digital or any other kind of Digital that does not support Lossless. Without a CD you're missing soooo much. That's what I miss about LPs...Artwork, and correct grammar and punctuation with information contained inside.

I've obtained all my favorites in Digital as well. I've encoded all my (sooo many) CDs with FLAC or APE. I've made sure Artwork is part of it.

Progressive music is much better than 95% of the stuff that's played these days. Auto-Tune = You're unable to sing = Stop!
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What sucks about CDs is the 44.1 kHz sample rate. At a minimum it should have been 48 kHz. You can find 48/96 kHz material out there, but they are few and far between.
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What sucks about CDs is the 44.1 kHz sample rate. At a minimum it should have been 48 kHz. You can find 48/96 kHz material out there, but they are few and far between.
44.1 kHz sampling rate sucks? Hmmm, 44.1 kHz sampling rate accommodates audio frequencies up to about 20....22 kHz. I have some doubts whether people beyond their 20ies can even hear 20 kHz. Lot of placebos in the audio industry .....

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44.1 kHz sampling rate sucks? Hmmm, 44.1 kHz sampling rate accommodates audio frequencies up to about 20....22 kHz. I have some doubts whether people beyond their 20ies can even hear 20 kHz. Lot of placebos in the audio industry .....
Yep. Anytime your hear the term "HD Audio" you can bet you are being sold a bill of nonsense.
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The point is that the upper frequencies harmonics are lost.
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The point is that the upper frequencies harmonics are lost.
Harmonics contribute to an instrument's 'timbre', but only with those frequencies which are within a human's hearing range which is normally below about 20kHz for youngsters. (Your avatar may chime in at this point though ).
Now take the highest C of a piano which is about 4186 Hz. Its audible overtones would be 8372, 12558, 16400, 20930Hz which are still covered by the 44.1kHz sampling rate. An 48kHz sampling rate will not even include the next harmonic of 25116Hz for which the minimum sampling rate would have to be about 51kHz.
So I don't see a significant improvement between 44.1kHz sampling rate or 48kHz sampling rate. More important than extending the frequency range is the resolution (quantization) of the samples (true 16bit is fine) and how the samples are processed in the sequel.
Oh well, audio quality can be discussed to death by audiophiles .

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Now this makes we wonder why the sampling rate has been increased from 44.1 to 48kHz at all. Technology convenience? Marketing gimmick? Or perhaps a better or simpler design of the anti-aliasing filter with a smoother roll-of and a better transient response? Just guessing.

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Its audible overtones would be 8372, 12558, 16400, 20930Hz which are still covered by the 44.1kHz sampling rate.
20930 Hz has better sampling at 48 kHz than it does as 44.1 kHz (more data points). I suspect that 44.1 kHz was used on a CD in order to be able to supply more music. That doesn't hold water when existing LPs are redone for CDs, considering that a 48 kHz rate would have let them fit just fine.

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I have a question in the hope that one of the X265 experts out there can help me understand something. It's regarding how CRF mode works.

In X264, if I select a CRF value, I can be confident that it actually results in "constant quality". In other words, if I choose "medium" as my encoding preset and set the CRF to 20, I will get approximately the same quality as if I do the same using the "ultrafast" preset. Of course there will be a sacrifice in file size in order to make up the decreased efficiency of the faster mode. Great. Makes perfect sense.

But when I run X265 it seems to be all over the place. For example, I ran a job last night in which I used the exact same command line (with CRF=20) but changed only the preset from "ultrafast" to "medium". The "medium" job resulted in an HEVC file that is 69% larger than the "ultrafast" encode??? Huh? That is the exact opposite of what common sense would dictate. I haven't tested it yet, but I'm certain the ultrafast encode won't look as good... but how is that "constant quality"? I'm confused.
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You may find this discussion interesting:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=180438
At the end CRF means just constant rate factor and provides a 'constant quality' for a particular encode. It is not an absolute quality measure and hence even for the same CRF the quality differs from source to source and between different encoder settings.
But yes, the behavior for x264 was more logical than it seems to be for x265.

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At the end CRF means just constant rate factor and provides a 'constant quality' for a particular encode. It is not an absolute quality measure and hence even for the same CRF the quality differs from source to source and between different encoder settings.
But yes, the behavior for x264 was more logical than it seems to be for x265.
You would think, though, that "constant quality" for the exact same source would have some root in logic. It very definitely doesn't. All I get from all this is that in X265 CRF=20 doesn't equal CRF=20. Now that is crazy.
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You would think, though, that "constant quality" for the exact same source would have some root in logic. It very definitely doesn't. All I get from all this is that in X265 CRF=20 doesn't equal CRF=20. Now that is crazy.
Only when one links CRF with 'constant quality', or (mis)interprets it as a measure for absolute quality. I understand that it has been 'sold' like this to make it popular or easier to understand, but in fact it just means Constant Rate Factor for the encoding process, and nothing else. It aims at providing a 'constant quality' visual experience for that particular encode, but when one changes encoding parameters for the same CRF and same source the quality as well as the files size will change. Apparently this seems to be much more pronounced for x265 than for x264.
When x265 encoder preset is changed from fast to slow and the file size increases (unexpectedly) for the same CRF one would expect in return that the quality has become better, like less blurring, better noise and details retention in low contrast areas etc. But seen from the encoding process it is still the same CRF, but not the same quality.
Whether this could be aligned more logical in the quality/encoder settings/file size context for x265, I really don't know. Perhaps an expert could shed some light on this.

What remains at the end is that for a given set of encoding parameters (preset) and for a given same source the quality becomes worse (@lower file size) for a higher CRF and becomes better (@higher file size) for a lower CRF. So I'd assume that the 1-pass CRF size prediction algo in BD-RB will still be working.

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Out of curiosity I made a quality comparison between cartman's QP24 HW encode and a BD-RB x265 'Very Good (Very Fast)' CPU encode at same bitrate (about 7740 kbps).

- cartman's HEVC QP24 GPU encode: VMAF = 95.7191, SSIM = 0.997884, PSNR = 49.1751
- BD-RB x265 'Very Good (Very Fast)' CPU encode: VMAF = 96.3585, SSIM = 0.997893, PSNR = 49.4838 (CPU encoding speed was about 9 fps with my i5-8400 CPU)

No big difference in the quality metrics, both encodes are softening and denoising the picture somewhat.
Visually they look much the same IMO, by far good enough for casual viewing (a very subjective statement of course ).
So the GPU HEVC encode has about the same quality as the CPU x265 'Very Good / Very Fast' encode in this test.
How can I compare the results myself? Is there some kind of How-to?
I'd like to tweak my settings to see if I can get even more quality
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How can I compare the results myself? Is there some kind of How-to?
I'd like to tweak my settings to see if I can get even more quality
1) Subjectively (my preference actually) using my eyes: Open the script below in a player like MPC-HC and step through the interleaved pictures one by one and spot the difference.
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v1=your source filter for videofile 1
v2=your source filter for videofile 2
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Pay attention to fine details (especially in low contrast areas), blurring, color banding, noise, artefacts etc. Step backward and forward between pairs of pictures. Zoom in as needed.

2) More objective: Using a standardized metric. Google for PSNR, SSIM, VMAF to get an idea how to proceed. And crop the borders for these tests because they would bias the result.

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Undersized BD9/Custom targets?

Hello all, hope everyone is safe and healthy...

Well, like many of us, I'm stuck inside with too much time on my hands. I've come across a puzzling problem and can't figure it out. Using the latest v0.61.05, my BD9 encodes are averaging 1GB-1.5GB under the default target size of 7.84GB when finished.

My latest BD9 encode is Rocky which has a DTS-MA 5.1 track that I choose to re-encode to AC3@640. It finishes w/a file size of 6.30GB, about 1.5GB under the normal default target for a BD9.

So I try a Custom Target Size to increase the finished file size (have done this before many times w/no problems), but when I choose any size over 8499MB, the movie bit rate decreases by half, from 6,199Kbs for BD9, to 3387Kbs for 8500MB? Makes no sense!

I've tried it w/movie and menus and movie only but every time I increase the custom target to 8500MB or more the bit rate and file size gets smaller. Any ideas?

Thanks for any help or suggestions. Hang in there everyone!
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Does BD-RB have an option wherein UHD content can be encoded to HD BD compliant structure? For example, under Alternate Movie-Only Output, the Standard Output is to Output a BD or AVCHD Compliant Structure. But this retains the UHD content (2160p). What I am looking for is a way to downrez the movie-only content to 1080p in a format that I could burn to a BR disc. I know I could recode it to MKV at 1080p equivalent, but some players don’t show the subtitles.
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Does BD-RB have an option wherein UHD content can be encoded to HD BD compliant structure? For example, under Alternate Movie-Only Output, the Standard Output is to Output a BD or AVCHD Compliant Structure. But this retains the UHD content (2160p). What I am looking for is a way to downrez the movie-only content to 1080p in a format that I could burn to a BR disc. I know I could recode it to MKV at 1080p equivalent, but some players donít show the subtitles.
I guess you could import the resulting mkv in BD-RB and go from there.
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Hello all, hope everyone is safe and healthy...

Well, like many of us, I'm stuck inside with too much time on my hands. I've come across a puzzling problem and can't figure it out. Using the latest v0.61.05, my BD9 encodes are averaging 1GB-1.5GB under the default target size of 7.84GB when finished.

My latest BD9 encode is Rocky which has a DTS-MA 5.1 track that I choose to re-encode to AC3@640. It finishes w/a file size of 6.30GB, about 1.5GB under the normal default target for a BD9.

So I try a Custom Target Size to increase the finished file size (have done this before many times w/no problems), but when I choose any size over 8499MB, the movie bit rate decreases by half, from 6,199Kbs for BD9, to 3387Kbs for 8500MB? Makes no sense!

I've tried it w/movie and menus and movie only but every time I increase the custom target to 8500MB or more the bit rate and file size gets smaller. Any ideas?

Thanks for any help or suggestions. Hang in there everyone!
8500 is the cutoff where BD-RB decides it is no longer encoding for DVD-R and removes the restrictions/rules. It is odd, though, that you could undersize by that much on a DVD. How big is the source? Is it hitting possibly the maximum bitrate for DVD-R? I'd have to see a log to know.
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8500 is the cutoff where BD-RB decides it is no longer encoding for DVD-R and removes the restrictions/rules. It is odd, though, that you could undersize by that much on a DVD. How big is the source? Is it hitting possibly the maximum bitrate for DVD-R? I'd have to see a log to know.
Here 2 logs from my tests...

Default BD9
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[03/27/20] BD Rebuilder v0.61.05
[22:16:42] Source:  ROCKY
  - Input BD size: 31.39 GB
  - Approximate total content: [06:16:13.383]
  - Target BD size: 7.84 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
  - MOVIE and MENUS mode enabled
  - Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
  - SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
  - Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[22:16:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [22:16:42] Processing: VID_00020 (1 of 99)
 - [22:16:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
 - [22:16:51] Reencoding video [VID_00020]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,740 frames
   - Bitrate: 8,694 Kbs
 - [22:16:51] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 2
 - [22:17:24] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 2 of 2
 - [22:18:00] Video Encode complete
 - [22:18:00] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:18:01] Multiplexing M2TS
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 - [22:18:10] Reencoding video [VID_00200]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 249 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,533 Kbs
 - [22:18:10] Reencoding: VID_00200, Pass 1 of 2
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 - [22:18:17] Video Encode complete
 - [22:18:17] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
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   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1 frames
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   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 430 frames
   - Bitrate: 5,307 Kbs
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 - [22:18:50] Processing audio tracks
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   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 172,170 frames
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 - [00:07:07] Blanking: VID_01319 (90 of 99)
 - [00:07:07] Blanking: VID_01320 (91 of 99)
 - [00:07:07] Blanking: VID_01321 (92 of 99)
 - [00:07:07] Blanking: VID_01525 (93 of 99)
 - [00:07:07] Blanking: VID_01526 (94 of 99)
 - [00:07:07] Blanking: VID_01527 (95 of 99)
 - [00:07:07] Blanking: VID_01528 (96 of 99)
 - [00:07:07] Blanking: VID_01529 (97 of 99)
 - [00:07:07] Blanking: VID_01530 (98 of 99)
 - [00:07:07] Blanking: VID_01531 (99 of 99)
[00:07:07]PHASE ONE complete
[00:07:07]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [00:07:07] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[00:07:12] - Encode and Rebuild complete
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
 - Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.
Custom Target 8512MB: Notice how the movie bit rate in bold decreases from 6,199 Kbs to 3,387 Kbs even though the target size is larger...
Code:
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[03/27/20] BD Rebuilder v0.61.05
[19:50:36] Source:  ROCKY
  - Input BD size: 31.39 GB
  - Approximate total content: [06:16:13.383]
  - Target BD size: 8.34 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
  - MOVIE and MENUS mode enabled
  - Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
  - Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[19:50:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [19:50:38] Blanking: VID_00070 (1 of 97)
 - [19:50:38] Blanking: VID_00121 (2 of 97)
 - [19:50:38] Blanking: VID_00122 (3 of 97)
 - [19:50:38] Blanking: VID_00123 (4 of 97)
 - [19:50:38] Blanking: VID_00131 (5 of 97)
 - [19:50:38] Blanking: VID_00133 (6 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00151 (7 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00152 (8 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00153 (9 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00154 (10 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00155 (11 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00156 (12 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00157 (13 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00158 (14 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00159 (15 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00160 (16 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00161 (17 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00162 (18 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00163 (19 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00164 (20 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00165 (21 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00166 (22 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00167 (23 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00168 (24 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00169 (25 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00170 (26 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00171 (27 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00172 (28 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00173 (29 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00174 (30 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00175 (31 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00176 (32 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00177 (33 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00178 (34 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00179 (35 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00180 (36 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00181 (37 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00182 (38 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00183 (39 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00184 (40 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00185 (41 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00186 (42 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00187 (43 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00188 (44 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00189 (45 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00190 (46 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Blanking: VID_00191 (47 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Processing: VID_00200 (48 of 97)
 - [19:50:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00200]
 - [19:50:44] Reencoding video [VID_00200]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 249 frames
   - Bitrate: 1,493 Kbs
 - [19:50:44] Reencoding: VID_00200, Pass 1 of 2
 - [19:50:47] Reencoding: VID_00200, Pass 2 of 2
 - [19:50:51] Video Encode complete
 - [19:50:51] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [19:50:51] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [19:50:55] Blanking: VID_00220 (49 of 97)
 - [19:50:55] Blanking: VID_00234 (50 of 97)
 - [19:50:55] Blanking: VID_00370 (51 of 97)
 - [19:50:55] Blanking: VID_00371 (52 of 97)
 - [19:50:55] Blanking: VID_00372 (53 of 97)
 - [19:50:55] Processing: VID_00600 (54 of 97)
 - [19:50:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00600]
 - [19:50:59] Reencoding video [VID_00600]
 - [19:50:59] Keeping original video (no reencode)
 - [19:50:59] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [19:50:59] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [19:51:02] Blanking: VID_00601 (55 of 97)
 - [19:51:02] Processing: VID_00800 (56 of 97)
 - [19:51:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
 - [19:57:05] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 172,170 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,387 Kbs
 - [19:57:05] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 2
[19:57:23]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
TIA for any help/suggestions!
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BD5 Undersize as well...

Here's a default BD5 of a movie extras job I just did. This one comes out undersized too. Finished size comes out to 3.73GB, default target is 4.36GB. I tried a Custom Target of 5120GB but the finished size comes out the same at 3.73GB. Very confusing...

Code:
[03/30/20] Checking System Settings
  - BD-Rebuilder v0.61.05
  - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
  - Working Path Free Space: 284.59GB
  - AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
  - LAVFILTERS:  Ok
  - AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
  - X264:  Ok
  - X265:  Ok
  - AFTEN:  Ok
  - FAAC:  Ok
  - MP4BOX:  Ok
  - WAVI:  Ok
  - TSMUXER:  Ok
  - FRIMEncode:  Ok
  - FRIMDecode:  Ok
[03/30/20] Systems Settings Check complete
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[03/30/20] BD Rebuilder v0.61.05
[09:04:03] Source:  JOKER
  - Input BD size: 5.13 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:50:29.719]
  - Target BD size: 4.36 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
  - MOVIE and MENUS mode enabled
  - Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
  - Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[09:04:07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [09:04:07] Processing: VID_01007 (1 of 30)
 - [09:04:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01007]
 - [09:04:11] Reencoding video [VID_01007]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 321 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [09:04:11] Reencoding: VID_01007, Pass 1 of 2
 - [09:04:16] Reencoding: VID_01007, Pass 2 of 2
 - [09:04:21] Video Encode complete
 - [09:04:21] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [09:04:21] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01063 (2 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01065 (3 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01066 (4 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01067 (5 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01068 (6 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01069 (7 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01070 (8 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01071 (9 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01072 (10 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01073 (11 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01074 (12 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01075 (13 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01076 (14 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01086 (15 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01206 (16 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01218 (17 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01223 (18 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01224 (19 of 30)
 - [09:04:26] Blanking: VID_01225 (20 of 30)
 - [09:04:27] Processing: VID_01227 (21 of 30)
 - [09:04:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01227]
 - [09:04:34] Reencoding video [VID_01227]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,052 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [09:04:34] Reencoding: VID_01227, Pass 1 of 2
 - [09:05:02] Reencoding: VID_01227, Pass 2 of 2
 - [09:05:38] Video Encode complete
 - [09:05:38] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [09:05:38] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:05:44] Processing: VID_01228 (22 of 30)
 - [09:05:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01228]
 - [09:06:41] Reencoding video [VID_01228]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 32,253 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [09:06:41] Reencoding: VID_01228, Pass 1 of 2
 - [09:14:29] Reencoding: VID_01228, Pass 2 of 2
 - [09:24:48] Video Encode complete
 - [09:24:48] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [09:24:48] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:25:33] Processing: VID_01229 (23 of 30)
 - [09:25:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01229]
 - [09:25:43] Reencoding video [VID_01229]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,955 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [09:25:43] Reencoding: VID_01229, Pass 1 of 2
 - [09:26:34] Reencoding: VID_01229, Pass 2 of 2
 - [09:27:40] Video Encode complete
 - [09:27:40] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [09:27:40] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:27:48] Processing: VID_01230 (24 of 30)
 - [09:27:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01230]
 - [09:28:01] Reencoding video [VID_01230]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,425 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [09:28:01] Reencoding: VID_01230, Pass 1 of 2
 - [09:29:02] Reencoding: VID_01230, Pass 2 of 2
 - [09:30:16] Video Encode complete
 - [09:30:16] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [09:30:16] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:30:26] Processing: VID_01231 (25 of 30)
 - [09:30:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01231]
 - [09:30:30] Reencoding video [VID_01231]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 120 frames
   - Bitrate: 10,715 Kbs
 - [09:30:30] Reencoding: VID_01231, Pass 1 of 2
 - [09:30:31] Reencoding: VID_01231, Pass 2 of 2
 - [09:30:33] Video Encode complete
 - [09:30:33] Processing audio tracks
 - [09:30:33] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:30:37] Processing: VID_01232 (26 of 30)
 - [09:30:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01232]
 - [09:30:43] Reencoding video [VID_01232]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,500 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [09:30:43] Reencoding: VID_01232, Pass 1 of 2
 - [09:31:03] Reencoding: VID_01232, Pass 2 of 2
 - [09:31:25] Video Encode complete
 - [09:31:25] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [09:31:25] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:31:30] Processing: VID_01233 (27 of 30)
 - [09:31:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01233]
 - [09:31:36] Reencoding video [VID_01233]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,440 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [09:31:36] Reencoding: VID_01233, Pass 1 of 2
 - [09:31:55] Reencoding: VID_01233, Pass 2 of 2
 - [09:32:16] Video Encode complete
 - [09:32:16] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [09:32:16] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:32:22] Processing: VID_01234 (28 of 30)
 - [09:32:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01234]
 - [09:32:29] Reencoding video [VID_01234]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,440 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [09:32:29] Reencoding: VID_01234, Pass 1 of 2
 - [09:32:48] Reencoding: VID_01234, Pass 2 of 2
 - [09:33:08] Video Encode complete
 - [09:33:08] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [09:33:08] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:33:14] Processing: VID_01235 (29 of 30)
 - [09:33:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01235]
 - [09:33:20] Reencoding video [VID_01235]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,440 frames
   - Bitrate: 12,503 Kbs
 - [09:33:20] Reencoding: VID_01235, Pass 1 of 2
 - [09:33:34] Reencoding: VID_01235, Pass 2 of 2
 - [09:33:50] Video Encode complete
 - [09:33:50] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [09:33:50] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:33:55] Processing: VID_01236 (30 of 30)
 - [09:33:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01236]
 - [09:33:59] Reencoding video [VID_01236]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 120 frames
   - Bitrate: 10,715 Kbs
 - [09:33:59] Reencoding: VID_01236, Pass 1 of 2
 - [09:34:00] Reencoding: VID_01236, Pass 2 of 2
 - [09:34:02] Video Encode complete
 - [09:34:02] Processing audio tracks
 - [09:34:02] Multiplexing M2TS
[09:34:06]PHASE ONE complete
[09:34:06]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [09:34:06] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[09:34:07] - Encode and Rebuild complete
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
[09:34:08] JOB: JOKER finished.
Custom Target 5120GB. Finished file size is still 3.73GB even though the target size is larger???
Code:
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[03/30/20] BD Rebuilder v0.61.05
[10:17:20] Source:  JOKER
  - Input BD size: 5.13 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:50:29.719]
  - Target BD size: 5.00 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
  - MOVIE and MENUS mode enabled
  - Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
  - Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[10:17:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [10:17:20] Processing: VID_01007 (1 of 30)
 - [10:17:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01007]
 - [10:17:24] Reencoding video [VID_01007]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 321 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [10:17:24] Reencoding: VID_01007, Pass 1 of 2
 - [10:17:29] Reencoding: VID_01007, Pass 2 of 2
 - [10:17:34] Video Encode complete
 - [10:17:34] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [10:17:34] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01063 (2 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01065 (3 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01066 (4 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01067 (5 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01068 (6 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01069 (7 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01070 (8 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01071 (9 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01072 (10 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01073 (11 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01074 (12 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01075 (13 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01076 (14 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01086 (15 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01206 (16 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01218 (17 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01223 (18 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01224 (19 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Blanking: VID_01225 (20 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Processing: VID_01227 (21 of 30)
 - [10:17:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01227]
 - [10:17:45] Reencoding video [VID_01227]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,052 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [10:17:45] Reencoding: VID_01227, Pass 1 of 2
 - [10:18:12] Reencoding: VID_01227, Pass 2 of 2
 - [10:18:48] Video Encode complete
 - [10:18:48] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [10:18:48] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [10:18:54] Processing: VID_01228 (22 of 30)
 - [10:18:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01228]
 - [10:19:42] Reencoding video [VID_01228]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 32,253 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [10:19:42] Reencoding: VID_01228, Pass 1 of 2
 - [10:27:27] Reencoding: VID_01228, Pass 2 of 2
 - [10:37:42] Video Encode complete
 - [10:37:42] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [10:37:42] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [10:38:23] Processing: VID_01229 (23 of 30)
 - [10:38:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01229]
 - [10:38:33] Reencoding video [VID_01229]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,955 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [10:38:33] Reencoding: VID_01229, Pass 1 of 2
 - [10:39:24] Reencoding: VID_01229, Pass 2 of 2
 - [10:40:30] Video Encode complete
 - [10:40:30] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [10:40:30] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [10:40:38] Processing: VID_01230 (24 of 30)
 - [10:40:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01230]
 - [10:40:49] Reencoding video [VID_01230]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,425 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [10:40:49] Reencoding: VID_01230, Pass 1 of 2
 - [10:41:50] Reencoding: VID_01230, Pass 2 of 2
 - [10:43:05] Video Encode complete
 - [10:43:05] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [10:43:05] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [10:43:13] Processing: VID_01231 (25 of 30)
 - [10:43:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01231]
 - [10:43:17] Reencoding video [VID_01231]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 120 frames
   - Bitrate: 12,282 Kbs
 - [10:43:17] Reencoding: VID_01231, Pass 1 of 2
 - [10:43:19] Reencoding: VID_01231, Pass 2 of 2
 - [10:43:20] Video Encode complete
 - [10:43:20] Processing audio tracks
 - [10:43:20] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [10:43:24] Processing: VID_01232 (26 of 30)
 - [10:43:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01232]
 - [10:43:31] Reencoding video [VID_01232]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,500 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [10:43:31] Reencoding: VID_01232, Pass 1 of 2
 - [10:43:50] Reencoding: VID_01232, Pass 2 of 2
 - [10:44:12] Video Encode complete
 - [10:44:12] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [10:44:12] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [10:44:18] Processing: VID_01233 (27 of 30)
 - [10:44:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01233]
 - [10:44:24] Reencoding video [VID_01233]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,440 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [10:44:24] Reencoding: VID_01233, Pass 1 of 2
 - [10:44:43] Reencoding: VID_01233, Pass 2 of 2
 - [10:45:04] Video Encode complete
 - [10:45:04] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [10:45:04] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [10:45:08] Processing: VID_01234 (28 of 30)
 - [10:45:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01234]
 - [10:45:15] Reencoding video [VID_01234]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,440 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
 - [10:45:15] Reencoding: VID_01234, Pass 1 of 2
 - [10:45:34] Reencoding: VID_01234, Pass 2 of 2
 - [10:45:55] Video Encode complete
 - [10:45:55] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [10:45:55] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [10:46:00] Processing: VID_01235 (29 of 30)
 - [10:46:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01235]
 - [10:46:05] Reencoding video [VID_01235]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,440 frames
   - Bitrate: 14,376 Kbs
 - [10:46:05] Reencoding: VID_01235, Pass 1 of 2
 - [10:46:19] Reencoding: VID_01235, Pass 2 of 2
 - [10:46:35] Video Encode complete
 - [10:46:35] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [10:46:35] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [10:46:40] Processing: VID_01236 (30 of 30)
 - [10:46:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01236]
 - [10:46:44] Reencoding video [VID_01236]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 120 frames
   - Bitrate: 12,282 Kbs
 - [10:46:44] Reencoding: VID_01236, Pass 1 of 2
 - [10:46:46] Reencoding: VID_01236, Pass 2 of 2
 - [10:46:47] Video Encode complete
 - [10:46:47] Processing audio tracks
 - [10:46:47] Multiplexing M2TS
[10:46:51]PHASE ONE complete
[10:46:51]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [10:46:51] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:46:52] - Encode and Rebuild complete
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
[10:46:52] JOB: JOKER finished.

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heres my rocky, but with DTS audio, end result 7.4 gig, video 5.81 gig, audio 1.2gig

also your 31 gig file holds 6 hours of content, wow

03/30/20] BD Rebuilder v0.61.05
[14:26:54] Source: Rocky
- Input BD size: 21.05 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:59:54.353]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:26:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:26:56] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 2)
- [14:26:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [14:29:57] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 172,032 frames
- Bitrate: 6,684 Kbs
- [14:29:57] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:56:43] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:47:10] Video Encode complete
- [15:47:10] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [15:47:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:47:24] Processing: VID_00011 (2 of 2)
- [15:47:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [15:47:29] Reencoding video [VID_00011]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 216 frames
- Bitrate: 4,479 Kbs
- [15:47:29] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:47:31] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:47:34] Video Encode complete
- [15:47:34] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [15:47:34] Multiplexing M2TS
[15:47:38]PHASE ONE complete
[15:47:38]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [15:47:38] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[15:47:38] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[15:47:38] JOB: Rocky finished.

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