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Moreover make 5x x265 instance in 1080p is really massive and useless threading usage. Certainely that 2x or 3x instance is suffisant to have CPU charge at 100% even for 1950X.
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Besides 2 extra instances should not be a big problem. Look at older CPUs 2C/2T or 4C/4T. Scalling is good despite running 5 x 265 at the same time. Code:
44.6 fps - Intel Core i9-7900X @ 3.3GHz ( 10C / 20T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 43.6 fps - AMD Threadripper 1950X @ 3.4GHz ( 16C / 32T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 33.9 fps - Intel Core i7-5960X @ 4.4GHz^ ( 8C / 16T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 25.5 fps - AMD Ryzen 7 1700 @ 3.7GHz^ ( 8C / 16T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 24.8 fps - Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.8GHz^ ( 4C / 8T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 23.7 fps - Intel Core i7-7700K @ 4.8GHz^ ( 4C / 8T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 23.3 fps - Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.7GHz^ ( 4C / 8T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 22.6 fps - Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.5GHz^ ( 4C / 8T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 18.6 fps - Intel Core i7-6600K @ 4.5GHz^ ( 4C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 16.4 fps - Intel Xeon E5-2690 @ 2.9GHz ( 8C / 16T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX 15.8 fps - Intel i7-6770HQ @ 2.6GHz ( 4C / 8T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 15.8 fps - Intel Core i5-4690K @ 4.2GHz^ ( 4C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 15.6 fps - Intel Xeon E3 1231 v3 @ 3.4GHz ( 4C / 8T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 14.7 fps - Intel Xeon E5-2670 @ 2.6GHz ( 8C / 16T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX 14.7 fps - Intel Core i7-3930K @ 3.2GHz ( 6C / 12T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX 13.9 fps - Intel Core i5-7400 @ 3.0GHz ( 4C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 13.8 fps - Intel Core i5-6500 @ 3.2GHz ( 4C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 13.5 fps - AMD Ryzen 5 1500X @ 3.5GHz ( 4C / 8T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 13.3 fps - Intel Core i5-4570S @ 3.6GHz^ ( 4C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 12.1 fps - AMD FX-8320 Eight-Core @ 4.32GHz^ ( 4C / 8T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX XOP FMA4 FMA3 LZCNT BMI1 12.0 fps - Intel Core i5-4460 @ 3.2GHz ( 4C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 11.2 fps - Intel Core i7-3770K @ 3.5GHz ( 4C / 8T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX 9.7 fps - Intel Core i3-7100 @ 3.9GHz ( 2C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 8.8 fps - AMD Ryzen 3 1300X @ 3.5GHz ( 4C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 8.3 fps - Intel Core i5-2400 @ 3.7GHz^ ( 4C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX 7.8 fps - Intel i7-3612QM @ 2.1GHz ( 4C / 8T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX 7.6 fps - Intel Core i7-7500U @ 3.5GHz^ ( 2C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2 6.1 fps - Intel Celeron G3900 @ 4.0GHz^ ( 2C / 2T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 LZCNT 5.9 fps - AMD Athlon X4 760K Quad Core @ 4.5GHz^ ( 2C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX XOP FMA4 FMA3 LZCNT BMI1 5.6 fps - Intel Pentium G3258 @ 4.2GHz^ ( 2C / 2T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 LZCNT 5.5 fps - Intel Xeon X5470 @ 3.33GHz ( 4C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.1 Cache64 4.8 fps - Intel Core i3-3220 @ 3.3GHz ( 2C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX 4.4 fps - Intel Core2 Quad Q8200 @ 2.8GHz^ ( 4C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.1 Cache64 4.2 fps - Intel Core i3-2100 @ 3.1GHz ( 2C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX 3.7 fps - Intel Core2 Quad Q8200 @ 2.33GHz ( 4C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.1 Cache64 3.6 fps - Intel Core i3-4005U @ 1.7GHz ( 2C / 4T ) MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2
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If you have more than 20 fps with i7 4C/8T and 1080p, certainely that you use faster profil for x265 than default "medium" preset. historically speed are always better for Intel CPU in the fastest mode preset (for x264 and x265). It's perhaps the more simple explication.
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well multiple and intensive instance seem definitely big problem for Rysen and x265.
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Everybody encodes using completely different settings. You basically can't pick some --tune grain and magical --crf 24 (why 24 and not 23 or 22???) and announce the world that this is some sort of gold standard. Quote:
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Sorry guys, I run my 1950x at 3.9ghz on all cores all day long without issue. I have been a staunch Intel user for over 15 years and and have owned several Extreme edition processors including the 980X, 5960X, and 6950X. I am very pleased with the 1950X. It might not have the IPC of Intel, but the additional cores allow me to do more while I am encoding.
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x265 2.5+14-2718cb5dd67f (merge with stable)
cli: Align color primaries names to ffmpeg; Re-evaluate vbv lookahead in the encode that uses --analysis-reuse-mode load |
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It doesn't look like the help section of the tool has been updated yet. I can't find anything specific to enable Cuda or OpenCL support. I think we need more info about how to use it at this point. I did find the author added a new preset called ultraslow but it doesn't work for me. |
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You'll love this, x265 fans...
http://blog.beamr.com/2017/09/08/x26...epic-face-off/ Be sure to download the video files, and compare them side by side. Let us know whose video you prefer. media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/aerial/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/aerial/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/bar/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/bar/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/dinner/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/dinner/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/driving/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/driving/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/pierseaside/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/pierseaside/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/ritualdance/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/ritualdance/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/tango/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/tango/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/windnature/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/fastest/4k/windnature/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/aerial/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/aerial/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/bar/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/bar/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/dinner/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/dinner/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/driving/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/driving/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/pierseaside/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/pierseaside/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/ritualdance/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/ritualdance/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/tango/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/tango/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/windnature/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/medium/4k/windnature/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/aerial/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/aerial/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/bar/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/bar/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/dinner/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/dinner/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/driving/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/driving/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/pierseaside/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/pierseaside/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/ritualdance/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/ritualdance/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/tango/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/tango/x.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/windnature/beamr.265 media2.beamrvideo.com/media/blog1709/veryslow/4k/windnature/x.265 Last edited by x265_Project; 10th September 2017 at 07:43. Reason: Fixed video file download urls |
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Cool but where is download link to some trial version at least?
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Took a fast look at some of the very slow encodes.
(repacked the stream into mp4 and used Vapoursynth to compare them side-by-side and frame-alternating; using a 5k and a 4k monitor) Aerial: The sky look bad on x265s side. Better Details in x265. Especially with faster motion -> For me: Win for x265 on this one. Bar Scene: Dark areas better in x265, light areas better in beamr. When more motion occured x265 looked better. -> For me: No winner on this one. Dinner Scene: Less Banding in x265, more details. -> For me: x265 is the clear winner here. PierSeaside: The sky look bad on x265s side, but x265 has more details in dark areas. -> For me: Win for Beamr on this one. Cu Selur Ps.: Not sure whether I'll take a look at some of the other streams. Last edited by Selur; 9th September 2017 at 11:28. |
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I wonder about one point: BEAMR explains that their software is superior i.a. because they use wave-front parallelism (explained in the summary, fact 5.), or brief in 4.:
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Keep in mind that they designed this test, and they selected the test parameters, including the test sequences to use, which machine to run on, how many threads to allocate, the rate control mode and bit rates, and which x265 presets to compare with.
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Too much truth in advertising, for once... Ominously, this is a taste of how Multicoreware will soon have to defend its product against a litany of snake-oil claims once all the Johnny-Come-Lately HEVC developers like Beamr jump on the iOS 11 bandwagon. The tangible danger is that mainstream consumers will ultimately prefer to sacrifice quality for speed, which means that lower quality, faster encoders could pose a significant threat. Look at how many one-click instant AVC encoders there are which output absolute garbage, but do it quickly. There's a market for speed over quality. A big one. Remember, Beamr based this charade on SPEED, with all due apology to quality. In that unfortunate sense alone, they won this test. |
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