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To rule out as much as possible I went back to v44.17 and I still find this behavior. I've been running test after test today under various conditions. Am I misunderstanding? Does BDRB NEVER copy a source untouched even if there is more than enough room for it? |
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One more test. I figured I'd try a BD Quick Reauthor on the Pseudo BD. Unfortunately, the threshold is 15 minutes and I can find no hidden option for lowering that. Does it exist?
Sorry to be so needy, but this has been more difficult than anticipated. |
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I'm guessing jdobbs meant to reference his most recent reply to you instead of a previous one.
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@DoctorM
BD-RB has to reencode anything that is destined for a BD-5/9. That's because a source that was created for BD has bitrates that CANNOT be played on a DVD+-R -- it can't spin fast enough. It doesn't check a BD source to determine whether it was previously encoded. As one might expect, it assumes that a BD source is a BD source. |
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I can understand the BD5/9 always reencoding, but even taking from a pseudo BD to a BD25 target, BDRB insists on a re-encode too.
So basically it appears if the format isn't a true BD to start with, BDRB will always encode. Can a psuedo BD be used as a real BD(5) if the video files are properly encoded or are there other authoring differences? |
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@jdobbs
BD-5/9 target selection then overrules the hidden option FORCE_NOENCODE=1? I am asking because I imported compliant files (already processed before by BD-RB) on purpose for fixing the Quick-Menu. BD-RB insists on re-encoding despite FORCE_NOENCODE=1 unless I deselect all resizing tick boxes. (Possibly a similar case as DoctorM reports) |
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Perhaps an option to Re-Author without reencoding check box could be used for BD5-9/AVCHD? A warning message could say "may not be compatible with AVCHD, use at your own risk!"
I often do use multiAVCHD for this, but this would be an excellent alternative. Not sure this is an option you would want to add jdobbs, since you know the potential problems that will happen, and people will assume it is the fault of BD-RB! ![]() |
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FORCE_NOENCODE=1 should keep the original either way as long as it is physically possible to follow it and still meet your other settings. But it has to reencode if you are resizing. You can't give it contradicting instructions and expect BD-RB to know which of those you really mean. It can also be overridden by FORCE_ENCODE.
The same applies if you are processing SBS into 3D or if you have filters set. It can't do that and not encode at the same time. Trying to do two things at the same time that contradict each other is an operator error... not a bug. It's kinda' like stepping on the accelerator and the brake at the same time. Would you tell the manufacturer that they have a bug and one of the two should be ignored? With that said... if you select FORCE_NOENCODE and there is no other contradicting setting, it should not reencode. I'll look at what happens with BD-5/9 and change it if necessary. Last edited by jdobbs; 1st March 2014 at 15:07. |
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- [11:28:56] Processing: VID_00066 (55 of 102)
- [11:28:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00066] - Error in attempt to MKVMERGE. [11:29:36] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted Cannot get through this problem. The videos source is AVC and part of the main movie. (MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 Rate/Length: 23,976fps). Please help. At the moment this is the only 2D BD I own which cannot be processed by BD-RB due to some reason. Thank you! |
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What does this mean? If it is building to MKV the main movie is all there is -- and what do you mean by "part of" it?
[Edit] Ok, I see by looking at your log that you aren't encoding to MKV. MKVMERGE is necessary when processing secondary video or VC-1 interlaced sources (because they can't be demuxed/encoded properly from an M2TS). Last edited by jdobbs; 1st March 2014 at 18:34. |
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If I switch to "movie-only backup" mode to check the main movie content, it is shown that the main video contains several VIDs (22 pcs from VID_00050 to VID_00072) including the one I have problem with (VID_00066). I meant only that VID_00066 is part of the main movie video content. |
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I have found that after selecting Movie-Only Backup Mode, "Other Movie-Only Playlists" contains 7 pcs of playlists. What is strange for me is that this problematic main video segment (VID_00066) has it's own playlist (Playlist 00066) in which it is located alone. The same situation with an other big main video segment as well (VID_00068). Maybe, this could cause some problem for BD-RB also. |
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Have you tried switching to DirectshowSource() rather than LAVF? Last edited by jdobbs; 1st March 2014 at 23:27. |
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No, it's a 2 yr. old i7 so I don't think it's the processor. I was able to use DVDFabHD, but I generally like BDRebuilder better. It takes longer but the output seems crisper. This has happened to me 3 different times in the past yr. Usually reinstalling BDRB fixes it, not this time though. The only thing I can think of is that I seem to periodically have to reinstall Adobe Flash Player due to crashing issues (a lot of people have that problem). Do you think that could be affecting it? It's the only common clue I can think of because other than updating AnyDVDHD and DVDFabHD, I don't download much.
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Have you tried running TSMUXER from the command line using the META file BD-RB creates, and seeing if there is some indication of what might be happening before the crash? |
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With DirectshowSource I experienced the same problem, attached the log file. (The only difference in setup between the two encodings was unmarking "use X264's internal LAVF for decoding" in the setup dialog). I really appreciate your efforts and time spent on this issue. |
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Video is re-encoded, even when it will fit on BD25
Hello, this is my first post.
I have been using BD Rebuilder for awhile now, and I seem to be having an issue that just started with the past couple of versions that I've used (I'm not sure if these correspond to the last 2 releases, as I may not have installed each release that was made). Now, the video will always be re-encoded, even when it will fit on the target (BD25). This used to work fine for me (prior to the past 2 versions that I've used). I've done several movies where converting the LPCM or DTS HD-Master to AC3 allowed the size to be small enough for the video to not be re-encoded. Now, this is not occurring. In fact, I have a movie now that I just tried. It's "The Artist" and it's 22.9 GB with the DTS HD-Master audio track. It's just barely above the BD25 threshold, and clearly by converting the DTS HD-Master to AC3, it would be below the BD25 threshold, but BD Rebuilder is still is trying to re-encode the video. Another example, I had A Clockwork Orange, with a few audio tracks (1 LPCM, and 2 AC3, I believe). I selected just 1 AC3 track (which ended up bringing the final size to well under 20 GB, but it still tried to re-encode the video. If I change the target size to BD50, it works (no re-encode), so I don't think that any of my other settings are forcing it to re-encode or anything in the video itself (interlaced, etc.). Did something change with the size calculations? Again, this just started happening with the past 2 versions that I've used (prior versions seemed to be OK). Any thoughts? Here are my settings and log(s). --------- SETTINGS --------- [Options] VERSION=0.46.0.13 MODE=0 ENCODE_QUALITY=3 ONEPASS_ENCODING=0 AUTO_QUALITY=0 TARGET_SIZE=23500 AUTO_BURN=2 AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng; SUBS_TO_KEEP=all SD_CONVERT=0 OPEN_GOP=0 RESIZE_1080=0 RESIZE_1440=0 RESIZE_720=0 DEINTERLACE=1 SD_TO_1080=0 CONVERT_WIDE=0 DTS_REENCODE=1 AC3_REENCODE=0 AC3_640=1 AC3_192=0 KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0 KEEP_HD_LPCM=0 AVCHD=1 REMOVE_WORKFILES=0 MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1 REMOVE_OUTPUT=0 USE_FILTERS=0 BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0 USE_LAVF=0 IVTC_PULLDOWN=0 ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0 UNMASK_CHAPTER=0 COMPLETION_BEEP=0 DGDECNV=0 OUTPUT_3D=0 NEROAAC=0 SUPTITLE=0 AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1 SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1 CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500 IGNORE_3D=0 OUTPUT_SBS=0 [Paths] SOURCE_PATH=H:\ WORKING_PATH=D:\TEMP\BD-RB\ --------------------------- LOG (with BD25 target size) --------------------------- [03/02/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.13 (beta) [11:22:31] Source: THE_ARTIST - Input BD size: 22.99 GB - Approximate total content: [01:40:36.071] - Target BD size: 22.95 GB - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601] - Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass - Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640 [11:22:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding - [11:22:32] Processing: VID_00015 (1 of 1) - [11:22:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015] - [11:35:53] Reencoding video [VID_00015] - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 144,721 frames - Bitrate: 29,643 Kbs - [11:35:53] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 2 [11:37:28]PHASE ONE aborted by user request --------------------------- LOG (with BD50 target size) --------------------------- [03/02/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.13 (beta) [11:38:57] Source: THE_ARTIST - Input BD size: 22.99 GB - Approximate total content: [01:40:36.071] - Target BD size: 46.26 GB - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601] - Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass - Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640 [11:38:58] PHASE ONE, Encoding - [11:38:58] Processing: VID_00015 (1 of 1) - [11:38:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015] - [11:52:05] Reencoding video [VID_00015] - [11:52:05] Keeping original video (no reencode) - [11:52:05] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3... Thanks for any help. Sorry for the long post. -Peter |
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