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Old 10th March 2025, 19:28   #21181  |  Link
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Mobius is not perfect. Bt2446 is much better.

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...74#post1893674

I assume Bt2446 is something that Ripbot is using?

With my movies that doesn't produce good looking results what it comes to brightness. It's just too dark to me.

This is from 1080p Blu-Ray disc:
https://images2.imgbox.com/8d/cd/Dp4nRzWH_o.png

4K disc, RipBot Tonemap enabled:
https://images2.imgbox.com/d2/76/iDHR6K0A_o.png

4D disc, no Tonemap:
https://images2.imgbox.com/30/03/IDkM3A6N_o.png

Is there a way for me to test what results I get in Ripbot if I try different methods? How do I apply those commands to a Ripbot job? (Mobius, Hable, Reinhard etc.). I'm happy to use any method/settings that produces results as if the source were a 1080p blu-ray disc.

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Old 11th March 2025, 01:44   #21182  |  Link
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I assume Bt2446 is something that Ripbot is using?

With my movies that doesn't produce good looking results what it comes to brightness. It's just too dark to me.

This is from 1080p Blu-Ray disc:
https://images2.imgbox.com/8d/cd/Dp4nRzWH_o.png

4K disc, RipBot Tonemap enabled:
https://images2.imgbox.com/d2/76/iDHR6K0A_o.png

4D disc, no Tonemap:
https://images2.imgbox.com/30/03/IDkM3A6N_o.png

Is there a way for me to test what results I get in Ripbot if I try different methods? How do I apply those commands to a Ripbot job? (Mobius, Hable, Reinhard etc.). I'm happy to use any method/settings that produces results as if the source were a 1080p blu-ray disc.
The original certainly looks the best....

You should be able to make as many changes to the HDRtoSDR.avs as you like, until you get the desired result.

This might help:-

http://www.avisynth.nl/index.php/HDRTools

Other options would be creating your own custom script, or running FFMPEG after RipBot has completed the encode.

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I assume Bt2446 is something that Ripbot is using?

With my movies that doesn't produce good looking results what it comes to brightness. It's just too dark to me.

This is from 1080p Blu-Ray disc:
https://images2.imgbox.com/8d/cd/Dp4nRzWH_o.png

4K disc, RipBot Tonemap enabled:
https://images2.imgbox.com/d2/76/iDHR6K0A_o.png

4D disc, no Tonemap:
https://images2.imgbox.com/30/03/IDkM3A6N_o.png

Is there a way for me to test what results I get in Ripbot if I try different methods? How do I apply those commands to a Ripbot job? (Mobius, Hable, Reinhard etc.). I'm happy to use any method/settings that produces results as if the source were a 1080p blu-ray disc.
Normally difference between Tonemap OFF and Tonemap ON should be much bigger than in your example

TONEMAP OFF


TONEMAP ON (BT2446)

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Old 15th March 2025, 07:13   #21184  |  Link
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v1.27.4 issues

I've been having issues using v1.27.4 and someone in other forum said rolling back to v1.27.3 fixed there issues. How do I roll back to v1.27.3?
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I've been having issues using v1.27.4 and someone in other forum said rolling back to v1.27.3 fixed there issues. How do I roll back to v1.27.3?
What issues are you having ?

You can't really roll back, due to the way RB gets updated.

However, rlev11 posted some older versions here:-

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...63#post2012363
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What issues are you having ?

You can't really roll back, due to the way RB gets updated.

However, rlev11 posted some older versions here:-

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...63#post2012363
I used to be able to use Luts but I'm getting errors now. (I believe it was fine before the update to 1.27.4):

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I used to be able to use Luts but I'm getting errors now. (I believe it was fine before the update to 1.27.4):

Did this work with 1.27.3 ?

Looks more like the input file has a problem.
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Did this work with 1.27.3 ?

Looks more like the input file has a problem.
I definitely don't think it's the input file that has the problem since I tried several files. One thing I noticed is while I had two cube files in the Lut

folder from time to time I was able to preview one of them and the other one always errored out. I've had the same errors with 1.27.4 and now

1.27.3 but I think I might have fixed it. It appears it's as simple as only having one cube file in the Lut folder. I put the cube file that was erroring

out every single time by itself now in the Lut folder. It immediately worked.
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Old 16th March 2025, 12:34   #21189  |  Link
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Normally difference between Tonemap OFF and Tonemap ON should be much bigger than in your example

TONEMAP OFF


TONEMAP ON (BT2446)
I've had bad experiences with more than one 4K film.

Any change to share that piece of the clip in it's original 4K HDR format where that scene is? I'd like to try tonemapping that scene on my end.

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I've had bad experiences with more than one 4K film.

Any change to share that piece of the clip in it's original 4K HDR format where that scene is? I'd like to try tonemapping that scene on my end.
You should modify the HDRtoSDR.avs until you get your desired result !
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Old 19th March 2025, 20:33   #21192  |  Link
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I'm having a issue that I have seen occasionally in the past but now it happened twice in a row.

When using distributed encoding, the Encoding client gets stuck at 100 %. Ripbot window says "Please wait..." but waiting never finishes as the process doesn't complete - it's just stuck at 100 %.

https://images2.imgbox.com/b6/9c/cGtDXuLz_o.png

I can "resolve" this by ending the encoding client process in the task manager - after this, RB starts to mux the encoded file.

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Thanks.

When using tonemap, the end result is quite similar on my end, compared to yours:
https://images2.imgbox.com/c3/72/b22ErA4X_o.png

Interestingly, that original clip looks quite different on my end, compared to you:
https://images2.imgbox.com/24/fa/P6d7NMo1_o.png

Maybe Media Player Classic / K-Lite codec pack does some tweaks to the 4K HDR video...

Anyway, as I have major share of my movies in 1080p SDR, I want to rip my 4K movies to look exactly like them because I have used to the brighter image

Though, that one particular scene does look fine, I admit. But I still don't like the overall look of BT2446 in other movies so I guess I'll need to do some setting tweaking.

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You should modify the HDRtoSDR.avs until you get your desired result !
Yes.

But I don't know exactly what these values: (Lhdr & Lsdr) do (other than affect brightness someway) and how changing them affects the end result. If I could get some advice how to use those values, I would appreciate. http://avisynth.nl/index.php/HDRTools doesn't explain much.



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Open HDRtoSDR.avs in notepad and change that value in red.

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Function HDRtoSDR(clip video,string "Transfer") 
{
source=video

Transfer = Default(Transfer,"")

cond = (Transfer=="PQ") ? Eval("""

	video=ConvertYUVtoXYZ(video,Color=0,HDRMode=0,OOTF=false,OutputMode=2,threads=1)
	video=ConverXYZ_BT2446_C_HDRtoSDR(video,PQMode=true,Lhdr=50000.0,Lsdr=100.0,pColor=0,pct_ref=0.6,pct_ip=0.6,pct_wp=1.0,pct_sdr_skin=1.0,pct_hdr_skin=0.44,threads=1)
	video=ConvertXYZtoYUV(video,Color=2,pColor=0,OOTF=false,threads=1)	
	video=ConvertBits(video,8)
	
""") : Eval("""""")

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Can you upload unprocessed hdr sample which looks too dark after tonemap?. I would like to take a look...
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Yes.

But I don't know exactly what these values: (Lhdr & Lsdr) do (other than affect brightness someway) and how changing them affects the end result. If I could get some advice how to use those values, I would appreciate. http://avisynth.nl/index.php/HDRTools doesn't explain much.
Maybe you could have a look here:- https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...07#post1843107 (if you haven't already) it might be helpful.

You could still create your own Custom script, instead of changing HDRtoSDR.avs
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I just tried to run a few episodes through Ripbot. I am taking the HD remux to an hevc. As soon as I hit start encoding it finishes immediately. I'm still running v 126.0.0 but the last time I used it (last month?) it worked fine.

Edit: Tried on 1.27.1 and it went through fine. Why wouldn't the older version work?

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Rendered Subtitles Issue

I'm burning/rendering the English subs for Italian dialogue for the Godfather trilogy using the latest 1080p BD's. Wherever you use them, media players et cetera they are gold(ish) colored. After using BDSup2Sub or rendering with Ripbot they are bright yellow. I saw that Ripbot converts the sup file to sub/idx. Is there anyway to edit those files to bring it back to gold(ish) again?

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I'm burning/rendering the English subs for Italian dialogue for the Godfather trilogy using the latest 1080p BD's. Wherever you use them, media players et cetera they are gold(ish) colored. After using BDSup2Sub or rendering with Ripbot they are bright yellow. I saw that Ripbot converts the sup file to sub/idx. Is there anyway to edit those files to bring it back to gold(ish) again?
There is an option in the settings to not convert to DVD subs. I always burned my subs in as well, but I had to change that once HDR came out as the subs would mess with the brightness of the whole picture. So I started adding subs to the files and letting the media player overlay the subs (Plex got a lot better handling for this). You may have to do the same thing.
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I'm burning/rendering the English subs for Italian dialogue for the Godfather trilogy using the latest 1080p BD's. Wherever you use them, media players et cetera they are gold(ish) colored. After using BDSup2Sub or rendering with Ripbot they are bright yellow. I saw that Ripbot converts the sup file to sub/idx. Is there anyway to edit those files to bring it back to gold(ish) again?
Do not use rendered subtitles. Just mux them as forced in subtitles section.
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