BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Audiophile1178]

jdobbs,

First of all, I must say that this is a great tool for us encoders! I've been using it for a while now with very little problems. I recently stumbled upon a bug or two and want to report them, as well as, a request or two if that's ok. FYI, all of this information is regarding taking an original BD50 and encoding it down to a BD25.

Possible Bugs:
1. I just did the Mummy 2 and 3 which both have DTS Express for audio, as well as, including a Dolby Digital track for commentary. After BDRebuilder was done with each job it gave the commentary track the wrong ID (mPID) making the track hidden and not playable. I was able to easily fix it on each disc by changing the mPID in BDedit for the commentary track to one number lower than assigned by BDRebuilder therefore un hiding the track and making it functional again. I believe that BDRebuilder assigned the commentary tracks an mPID number that was after the DTS Express audio rendering it hidden. For instance, in the Mummy 3 it gave the commentary track an mPID number of 1102 (I believe if memory serves me right) which BDinfo stated that it was hidden. I then changed it to 1101 which un hid the track making it function normal again. It is also worth noting that I removed all audio language tracks that weren't English.
2. I use the option "Quick Encoding on Extras" with settings "QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1" and "QUICK_CRF=26" in BDRebuilder.ini. BDRebuilder is supposed to use one-pass CRF encoding on extras therefore reducing the extras significantly enabling more space to go towards the main movie title but in many cases it does two-pass encoding (same method on main movie) causing me to manually encode many parts of the disc by hand as they didn't get the proper encoding technique applied to them. After I encode the extras I then have to reencode the main title again to get it the proper size/bitrate that it was supposed to be. In a lot of recent movies extras are in 1080p with high bitrates so maybe BDRebuilder is getting confused?

Suggestions:
1. In many movies there can be a lot of extras and having to right-click to blank many VID's can be very tedious at times. I recently did a film where I had to blank 50 or more VID's. Would it be possible to enable BDRebuilder to use a keyboard key such as "b" on the keyboard when we have a VID selected in BDRebuilder to blank it therefore making it more efficient/faster to blank VID's?
2. This suggestion should help with possible bug #2. In seamless branching titles it's impossible to use "Quick Encoding on Extras" as BDRebuilder will encode many of the main movie VID's as extras. Would it be possible to enable the user to tell BDRebuilder what VID's are the main movie and what VID's are extras so that way the main movie would get high quality two-pass encoding settings applied to it while the extras would get the QUICK_CRF settings applied to them? It can be a hidden option just like blanking if you want. One method to possibly employ would be to right-click/use key "e" on keyboard on a VID and mark it as an extra and anything that doesn't have the extra flag assigned to it would get marked as main movie. This would help a lot of us users out tremendously if this feature was available. I can't stress enough how much this feature would help a lot of use out.

Thank you very much for your time and this great program of yours!

[laserfan]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

I'm confused. I though you were talking about audio/subtitle selections that were being unchecked...

Those I have unchecked (deselected for inclusion) are coming-back again as Included.

Originally Posted by laserfan

BD-RB in Edit mode, with English checked under "Audio Langs to Keep" under Setup: In the Feature, de-select any of the "extra" English audiotracks, then Save as Project. Quit BD-RB. Launch BD-RB again and the Open Project i.e. the .epr you just saved. The audio track deselected before is selected again.

This same issue exists for the Subtitles i.e. de-select a sub and save the project, reload the project and the sub is selected again.

Well I thought I was clear but will try again: For example, in World War Z deselect (change to red X) the Descriptive Audio Service track (eng). Save to Project. Come-back later and Open that .epr. The Red X is gone and the DVS track is selected for inclusion again, wasting bits on this unwanted track.

Either running the project or including in Batch would not yield the desired result. It appears that the Setup checkbox "keep English..." always trumps the individual selections made under each video, or that the individual track selections are not included in the .epr.

So I can't go-thru and edit a movie to Save as Project and come-back to it later (and trust my settings), nor can I use Batch mode it seems.

[AmigaFuture]

@laserfan

I'm glad to see someone else is noticing that with edit, then Save the Project then load it again, and the edit(s) aren't kept.


BLANKED=00000011100 is being saved for Project. I haven't used Batch before. If I add a Project to Batch, it's saved there. Loading a Project doesn't retain, but the Batch profile does. Even if I exit BD-RB and reload. Batch is still there. Interesting. Okay, I'll do some more testing..

[omegaman7]

Originally Posted by AmigaFuture

@laserfan

I'm glad to see someone else is noticing that with edit, then Save the Project then load it again, and the edit(s) aren't kept.

I have. Figured there was a reason for it. Haven't given it much thought. The way I run jobs, it's rare.

[AmigaFuture]

I updated my post. I rarely save Projects either because of all the other testing and using I've done with it. There are times when it WOULD be nice. Now that it seems Batch retains it, hehe, I'll try it as "Save Project". ;-)

[Sharc]

Originally Posted by Audiophile1178

jdobbs,

2. This suggestion should help with possible bug #2. ...... Would it be possible to enable the user to tell BDRebuilder what VID's are the main movie and what VID's are extras so that way the main movie would get high quality two-pass encoding settings applied to it while the extras would get the QUICK_CRF settings applied to them? It can be a hidden option just like blanking if you want. One method to possibly employ would be to right-click/use key "e" on keyboard on a VID and mark it as an extra and anything that doesn't have the extra flag assigned to it would get marked as main movie.

Good suggestion, +1.
I am not sure whether it's a bug in the current version. There is just nothing which tells BDRB whether a file is an Extra, which leaves some uncertainty with the automatic decision.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by AmigaFuture

I updated my post. I rarely save Projects either because of all the other testing and using I've done with it. There are times when it WOULD be nice. Now that it seems Batch retains it, hehe, I'll try it as "Save Project". ;-)

Hmm... I must have overlooked that. I'll add it to the project as well.

I thought we were talking about audio/subtitles that were changed from the initial automatic selections -- not blanked titles...

[MB2]

Hi, tried to make a movie only of Curse Of Chucky and at the end it came up with this? Any ideas?

----------------------
[10/20/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.17 (beta)
[13:05:42] Source: CHUCKY_00801
- Input BD size: 26.07 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:36:41.045]
- Target BD size: 23.63 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[13:05:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:05:42] Processing: VID_00023 (1 of 10)
- [13:05:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [13:11:32] Reencoding video [VID_00023]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 39,087 frames
- Bitrate: 31,534 Kbs
- [13:11:32] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:21:26] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:10:08] Video Encode complete
- [14:10:09] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- [14:12:25] Processing: VID_50357 (2 of 10)
- [14:12:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50357]
- [14:12:32] Reencoding video [VID_50357]
- [14:12:32] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:12:32] Processing: VID_50358 (3 of 10)
- [14:12:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50358]
- [14:14:58] Reencoding video [VID_50358]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 32,773 frames
- Bitrate: 31,684 Kbs
- [14:14:58] Reencoding: VID_50358, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:22:39] Reencoding: VID_50358, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:06:11] Video Encode complete
- [15:06:11] Processing: VID_50360 (4 of 10)
- [15:06:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50360]
- [15:06:21] Reencoding video [VID_50360]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,458 frames
- Bitrate: 32,102 Kbs
- [15:06:21] Reencoding: VID_50360, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:06:42] Reencoding: VID_50360, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:08:51] Video Encode complete
- [15:08:51] Processing: VID_50361 (5 of 10)
- [15:08:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50361]
- [15:09:57] Reencoding video [VID_50361]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,073 frames
- Bitrate: 31,833 Kbs
- [15:09:57] Reencoding: VID_50361, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:13:10] Reencoding: VID_50361, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:32:36] Video Encode complete
- [15:32:36] Processing: VID_50363 (6 of 10)
- [15:32:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50363]
- [15:32:43] Reencoding video [VID_50363]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 766 frames
- Bitrate: 32,125 Kbs
- [15:32:43] Reencoding: VID_50363, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:32:56] Reencoding: VID_50363, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:34:00] Video Encode complete
- [15:34:00] Processing: VID_50364 (7 of 10)
- [15:34:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50364]
- [15:35:09] Reencoding video [VID_50364]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,950 frames
- Bitrate: 32,084 Kbs
- [15:35:09] Reencoding: VID_50364, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:38:50] Reencoding: VID_50364, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:01:52] Video Encode complete
- [16:01:53] Processing: VID_50366 (8 of 10)
- [16:01:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50366]
- [16:02:00] Reencoding video [VID_50366]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 871 frames
- Bitrate: 32,045 Kbs
- [16:02:00] Reencoding: VID_50366, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:02:14] Reencoding: VID_50366, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:03:32] Video Encode complete
- [16:03:32] Processing: VID_50367 (9 of 10)
- [16:03:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50367]
- [16:05:31] Reencoding video [VID_50367]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 27,308 frames
- Bitrate: 31,881 Kbs
- [16:05:31] Reencoding: VID_50367, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:12:10] Reencoding: VID_50367, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:48:52] Video Encode complete
- [16:48:52] Processing: VID_50369 (10 of 10)
- [16:48:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50369]
- [16:49:28] Reencoding video [VID_50369]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,049 frames
- Bitrate: 31,736 Kbs
- [16:49:28] Reencoding: VID_50369, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:51:22] Reencoding: VID_50369, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:01:27] Video Encode complete
[17:01:27]PHASE ONE complete
[17:01:27]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:01:27] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: I:\CURSE OF CHUCKY\WORKFILES\00023.track_4113.264
[17:01:31] - Failed to REBUILD



Settings
[Status]
LABEL=CHUCKY
VERSION=v0.44.17 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=27996893184
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=27996893184
TARGET_SIZE=25375539200
REDUCTION=.906369825867033
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=10
REBUILD_COMPLETE=0
[00023]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=11111
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=7082942410
RATE=31534
SPLITS=1
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[50357]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=139675042
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50358]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=5966293857
RATE=31684
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50360]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=268858584
RATE=32102
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50361]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=2573775208
RATE=31833
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50363]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=141351231
RATE=32125
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50364]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=2755277027
RATE=32084
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50366]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=160335053
RATE=32045
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50367]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=5001682939
RATE=31881
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50369]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=1285347848
RATE=31736
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[laserfan]

Originally Posted by steveg32

Reencode of SALT (has DTS Express audio) showed no errors but when playing back on PowerDVD10 or Panasonic DMP-BD85 standalone there is NO English Master Audio.

I tried Salt myself yesterday and had a similar problem to the above post (and no LOG errors for me either) from late March v0.43.06 which AFAICT was never responded to or resolved, although I did find jdobbs that you said you'd done Salt w/o issues. Did you check that the DTS MA track was properly selected on playback for each of the three versions? None of them work for me.

I used "Movie & Menus (Auto-blank Extras)" and blanked some more things (trailers) before running, although for the main feature(s) I left all English audio & subtitles selected. But when I play it back, the audio track played is a 2-track 192kbps stereo track, not the DTS MA track, despite that according to MediaInfo these are all in the right place in the various .m2ts files.

Any ideas?

BDREBUILDER.INI

[Options]
DTSX_ENABLE=1
ENABLE_TEST=1
BLANK_THRESHOLD=40
OUTPUT_FOLDER=E:\BD-RB_OUTPUT
OVERWRITE_PROMPT=0
SHOW_ENCODER=1
VERSION=0.44.0.17
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=1
OUTPUT_3D=0
NEROAAC=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
ENABLE_BLANKING=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=V:\
WORKING_PATH=D:\BD-RB WORK\
DGIndexNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\DGIndexNV\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\DGIndexNV\DGDecodeNV.dll

SALT.INF (start only, too big to include here)

[Status]
LABEL=SALT
VERSION=v0.44.17 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=45952900759
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=45665476608
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.533315617354872
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=-1
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=158
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00011]
AUDIO=11110011111
PGS=110010101010
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
SPLITS=1
VIDEO2=2523852.94117647
V2MBRATE=7000
M2TS_TARGET=159712480
RATE=10551
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30273120
NSIZE=156223488
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
...

[Audiophile1178]

laserfan, it could be the same problem as I was having with my audio commentary with DTS Express audio. I didn't get an error as well with the two discs mentioned above. You might want to try to look at the mPID of the DTS-HD.MA audio to see what it is. BDRebuilder was consistently giving the audio commentary the wrong mPID number for my two discs as mentioned above. If that's what's wrong then it's really really easy to fix and should only take literally a min to fix in BDedit. When BDRebuilder gave the audio commentary the wrong mPID number for the commentary there was no audio as just like you were mentioning as the track was hidden.

For reference go to and look at possible bug #1 to get an idea of what I'm talking about:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...74#post1648474

If you don't know how to use BDedit I might be able to give you some pointers on what to do. Changing the mPID number of the DTS-HD.MA audio track isn't that hard.

BTW, if BDRebuilder did give the DTS-HD.MA track the wrong mPID number and made it hidden you'd easily see this in BDinfo if you load the disc in it. You don't need to do any scans just load the disc. If it's hidden, it'll be indented with an asterisk noted that it's a hidden track.


P.S. I looked at your post back from march and these comments (to me) are a pretty good indicator of the wrong mPID number problem.

Next, (from SALT Main Menu) I selected English Stereo but playback is English Audio Descriptive Service.
Next, I selected English Audio Descriptive Service but playback is Filmmakers Commentary (which is actually from movie menu's Special Features ).
Although I reencoded English only audio, I figured I'd follow the pattern so I next selected French Master Audio but playback is English Master Audio (on PowerDVD only. NO audio on standalone).

It's as if the audio tracks are not linking properly to the movie's Main Menu.

I can't be certain without doing the disc myself but it can easily be tested in BDedit. One thing to note, it's always good to backup the mpls file (main movie mpls in this case) that you're going to modify in BDedit as a precaution. I know BDedit backs up the file anyway but I like to have my own backup as well.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by AmigaFuture

I updated my post. I rarely save Projects either because of all the other testing and using I've done with it. There are times when it WOULD be nice. Now that it seems Batch retains it, hehe, I'll try it as "Save Project". ;-)

I just looked at it, and "Save Project" adds that same line (as it should)... but I'll do some testing.

[jdobbs]

@Audiophile1178

I'm confused about the PID issue you're describing. I went back and read the post -- and it still isn't clear to me. You said the track had a DTS Express track and also a Dolby Digital track... but DTS Express is only used for PiP and isn't legal for a normal track. It appears you say it was 0x1100 -- that would make it a primary track, which isn't legal per the standard?? Are you sure it was DTS Express?

I can't imagine how BD-RB would assign a wrong PID, as it gives them back the same PID on a full backup -- and on a Movie-Only backup it wouldn't be aligned with any original settings so it wouldn't matter.

I'll pick up one of the Mummy movies you mentioned and see if I can repeat your issue... I'll also run SALT again using the settings laserfan posted.

[laserfan]

Originally Posted by Audiophile1178

You might want to try to look at the mPID of the DTS-HD.MA audio to see what it is. BDRebuilder was consistently giving the audio commentary the wrong mPID

Thanks a lot AP for this. SALT has 3 different "main movie" mpls (different versions) and for each of them BDEdit shows mPID of 1011 under STN. I don't know what a mPID is, but when I look under any of the .clpi I see there PID numbers that show 1011 is the Video track. The DTS-HD XLL track is shown as 1100.

How would I use BDEdit to tell e.g. the Theatrical .mpls 00004 to use the 1100 audiotrack?

FWIW BDInfo does NOT show the DTS-HD MA track as hidden. It is the first audiotrack listed, and indeed MediaInfo shows the DTS track as the first one muxed-in to the .m2ts. There it's revealed that Audio #1 track 4352 is hex 0x1100. So it all *looks* fine to me but clearly the .mpls is screwed-up in some way?


Oops in comparing the Original's first .clpi file to BD-RB's .clpi file, the video/audio tracks appear in different sequential order; for example, in the original the DTS-HD XLL hex 1100 track is number 3 on the list after the main Vid then the PIP Vid. But in the BD-RB .clpi the main vid is 1st but then next is the DTS 1100 track, and third is a DD stereo track. I'm pretty sure that stereo track is what the disc defaults to playing.

It seems I need to change the order of these--how to do that? But then too the original has 25 PIDs shown and my "blanked" BD-RB version has 17--some french and spanish tracks are gone.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by laserfan

Thanks a lot AP for this. SALT has 3 different "main movie" mpls (different versions) and for each of them BDEdit shows mPID of 1011 under STN. I don't know what a mPID is, but when I look under any of the .clpi I see there PID numbers that show 1011 is the Video track. The DTS-HD XLL track is shown as 1100.

How would I use BDEdit to tell e.g. the Theatrical .mpls 00004 to use the 1100 audiotrack?

FWIW BDInfo does NOT show the DTS-HD MA track as hidden. It is the first audiotrack listed, and indeed MediaInfo shows the DTS track as the first one muxed-in to the .m2ts. There it's revealed that Audio #1 track 4352 is hex 0x1100. So it all *looks* fine to me but clearly the .mpls is screwed-up in some way?



I should note that the DTS audio 4352/hex1100 is consistent with the original BD numbering.

If the PID is the same for both the original and the backup... then the same automatic or manual selection should follow through. I guess I need to see the disc to know what's going on. Which edition of the Blu-Ray are you using for the backup?

[laserfan]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

If the PID is the same for both the original and the backup... then the same automatic or manual selection should follow through. I guess I need to see the disc to know what's going on. Which edition of the Blu-Ray are you using for the backup?

Yes the PIDs appear the same, just out of order (in the clpi files anyway).

Disc is US version as here with most files dated 10/13/2010.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by laserfan

Yes the PIDs appear the same, just out of order (in the clpi files anyway).

Disc is US version as here with most files dated 10/13/2010.

Out of order?

I'm about ready to release the next version and I'd like to get this fixed and included...

[Audiophile1178]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

@Audiophile1178

I'm confused about the PID issue you're describing. I went back and read the post -- and it still isn't clear to me. You said the track had a DTS Express track and also a Dolby Digital track... but DTS Express is only used for PiP and isn't legal for a normal track. It appears you say it was 0x1100 -- that would make it a primary track, which isn't legal per the standard?? Are you sure it was DTS Express?

I can't imagine how BD-RB would assign a wrong PID, as it gives them back the same PID on a full backup.

Jdobbs, thanks for the reply on the issue. You're getting slightly confused. I have no idea what the DTS Express track is getting assigned as it isn't shown in BDedit. My issue is regarding the mPID number of the dolby digital track (commentary). I believe that the DTS Express track is somehow triggering this bug. I'll provide screenshots to simulate what's going on as I already fixed it and don't know what BDRebuilder originally assigned for an mPID number of this track. The screenshots below are for the Mummy 3 which has 2 PIP videos and 2 DTS Express tracks. I believe that BDRebuilder assigned the dolby digital track (commentary) an mPID number of 1102 and that's what I did in my simulation as shown below.

Original Disc:
BDedit Screenshot


BDRebuilder output:
BDedit Screenshot

BDinfo Screenshot


Fixed in BDedit:
BDedit Screenshot

BDinfo Screenshot


Take notice of the last audio track (dolby digital) and you'll see that when it was assigned an mPID number of 1102 (BDRebuilder Output) the track is hidden as noted in BDinfo and wouldn't playback when selected in the menu on the disc. Once I changed it to 1101 it became un hidden and worked perfectly fine.

[laserfan]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Out of order?

Yes, as listed in the .clpi files by BDEdit. Might be completely irrelevant, I dunno, this is only an observation on my part. 00011.m2ts/.clpi happens to be the first linked file in every one of the three movie versions:

Original:


Blanked/edited BD-RB output:

[Audiophile1178]

laserfan, I believe that the playlist is what really controls how audio/subs behave during playback. Click on the playlist for your movie and go to the STN section. In that section you'll see Vi Au PG etc... with numbers under them. Click on the number under Au (Audio) and it'll list all the audio tracks for that playlist. I believe that the audio tracks mPID and attrib should be the same as noted in the clipinf tab as shown in your screenshot in order for everything to work correctly so compare the clipinf with the playlist to make sure that everything matches up correctly.

To change the values of the audio tracks for the playlist just click on one of the audio tracks and below that box you'll see the mPID highlighted in blue with drop down boxes to the right of it. To change the mPID number type in a different value then click out of the box and hit save but before doing that copy the mpls files for the movie to another folder to back them up just to be safe.

BTW, I'm not saying that anything needs to be changed in your case. I don't know for sure but I'm merely trying to give some info on how to change the values.

[laserfan]

Originally Posted by Audiophile1178

laserfan, I believe that the playlist is what really controls...

To change the values...

Audiophile, thanks! BDEdit needs a tutorial written; I nominate YOU!

Seriously, I didn't know at all these basic BDEdit features, but I'm liking your train-of-thought here. Note the audiotracks below, where the missing/blanked audio tracks are assigned the same number 1100. But in any of the .m2ts files this .mpls is referring to the number 1100 seems to refer to the DTS-MA track.

I'm flying blind in re the 3 other eng tracks (for editing) but will muck-around and see if I can fix this by hand.

SALT mPIDs, Theatrical version 00004.mpls:

Original

1100	DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, eng
1101	DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1102	DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1103	DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, fra
1104	DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, spa
1105	DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng

BD-RB (with fra and spa blanked)

1101	DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, eng
1102	DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1103	DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1100	DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, fra
1100	DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, spa
1104	DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng

Well, I tried editing the .mpls and a Stereo 192kbps track is still first, and oddly the DTS-MA track is fourth, at least with Arcsoft TMT (my Sony player had the DTS track as the 4th selection also). Gotta dig some more.