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Old 25th June 2017, 09:45   #26121  |  Link
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This works in general but still limits to a single thread value.

During a full backup using multiprocess, some files are too small to multiprocess. If I have threads set at 1 because I use multiprocess=12, these smaller files take way longer to encode than they should because they're also stuck with a single thread.
Hi bryrabknowles,

in general everytime splitting is used an additional step with TSMUXER is needed to combine the single *.264 files into one. This takes time, too. I guess that's why jdobbs decided to define a minimum m2ts file size.

But which speed gain do you expect? Maybe you could post a log file so that we can see the time needed for encoding. I assume that we are talking about a few minutes only for the whole rebuilding process. As a rule of thumb it was said already 30 years ago that speed gains below 33% are not noticable anyway. This applies to CPU, RAM and HDD Speed and for waiting
Even on my slower machine m2ts segments not being split (I use MULTIPROCESS=2) segments are encoded in 1-2 minutes.

So what are we talking about?

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I agree though, JD should charge...something. There isn't anything wrong with making money from passion (Love). Shareware is a good idea still. I don't much care for subscriptions but a small price is cool. Maybe some code that excludes the long time helpers with make it an easier idea?
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Encoding Joe Versus the Volcano yesterday to BD25.
There are 3 bonus features ranging from 2 to 4 minutes (SD and HD).
The do not show up on the Stream tab and of course aren't being re-encoded.
MIN_M2TS_SIZE and MIN_PLAYLIST_MIN are both set to 0 (also tested 1).

A couple gb aren't critical, but I don't understand why warnings and studio splash screan are visible on the Stream tab, but not the extras which are bigger and longer.
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Encoding Joe Versus the Volcano yesterday to BD25.
There are 3 bonus features ranging from 2 to 4 minutes (SD and HD).
The do not show up on the Stream tab and of course aren't being re-encoded.
MIN_M2TS_SIZE and MIN_PLAYLIST_MIN are both set to 0 (also tested 1).

A couple gb aren't critical, but I don't understand why warnings and studio splash screan are visible on the Stream tab, but not the extras which are bigger and longer.
Can you play these Extras via your standalone HW player?
Sometimes Blu-ray discs contain 'orphaned Extras' which are not addressed in any of the playlists and may not even be Blu-ray specs compliant. One can only play these files via PC, or perhaps import them as individual files in BD-RB.
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When importing a file the first step is "Scanning for Variable Frame Rate". This process is quite slow it seems. Would it make sense to skip this step (option at user's risk) if one is positive that the framerate of the source is constant? I think you have good reasons for always scanning though ....

The hidden option for IMPORT_VFR_FILM is 1 for FILM (23.976) and 0 for VIDEO (29.97). What should I do with 24.00p and 25.00i (or fake-i) and 25p sources? Can I just leave it at the default 1?
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Encoding Joe Versus the Volcano yesterday to BD25.
There are 3 bonus features ranging from 2 to 4 minutes (SD and HD).
The do not show up on the Stream tab and of course aren't being re-encoded.
MIN_M2TS_SIZE and MIN_PLAYLIST_MIN are both set to 0 (also tested 1).

A couple gb aren't critical, but I don't understand why warnings and studio splash screan are visible on the Stream tab, but not the extras which are bigger and longer.
Those M2TS streams probably have one or more IGS streams in them. By default small files that contain IGS aren't reencoded. That's mainly because TSMUXER doesn't handle IGS streams. BD-RB has the ability to fool TSMUXER and make required changes itself to TSMUXER's output that are associated with IGS. You can make it do that by adding IGS_ENABLE=1 to your INI file. It adds time to the encode and some small risk, so it really isn't worth it unless there's significant space savings.
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Can you play these Extras via your standalone HW player?
Sometimes Blu-ray discs contain 'orphaned Extras' which are not addressed in any of the playlists and may not even be Blu-ray specs compliant. One can only play these files via PC, or perhaps import them as individual files in BD-RB.
Yeah. You sometimes (rarely) run into what I call "unreferenced streams". They're just there to take up space and aren't used by the BD. BD-RB simply ignores those. But in this report he says the files are extras that he knows play (at least that's my impression) -- so that wouldn't seem to be the case
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BD Rebuilder v0.50.24

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest version of BD Rebuilder (v0.50.24). Changes for this release:
Code:
- Added code to do a sanity check on font
  size settings in quick-menu and prevent
  text from overflowing it's display area.
- Updated import procedures so interlaced
  sources are handled better.
- Added hidden option IMPORT_ORDER_BFF. It
  allows you to tell BD-RB to default to
  BFF field order when importing. Care
  should be taken with this setting.
- Improved some of the resizing parameters
  associated with importing and pseudo-BD.
- Added a parameter to autocropping that
  prevents heights that are not a multiple
  of four.
- Added code to import routines to handle
  EAC3/DD+ sources.  Requires LAV Filters
  or FFDSHOW be installed.
- Corrected a set of resizing conditions in
  which IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM did not work.
- Corrected setting for IMPORT_VFR_SCAN so
  that it defaults to off.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to 
  the latest release (r2833).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE 
  to  the latest release (r2833).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.
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@ jdobbs THANKS, THANKS, THANKS, RE: Added code to import routines to handle
EAC3/DD+ sources. Requires LAV Filters
or FFDSHOW be installed.
Can't wait to try it out as soon as my 3D recode finishes.
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@ jdobbs THANKS, THANKS, THANKS, RE: Added code to import routines to handle
EAC3/DD+ sources. Requires LAV Filters
or FFDSHOW be installed.
Can't wait to try it out as soon as my 3D recode finishes.
Let me know if you have any problems.
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Thanks, but I am curious... if all you do is import the DD+ audio, why do LAV filters or FFDSHOW need to be installed?
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Those M2TS streams probably have one or more IGS streams in them.
What are IGS streams?
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Thanks, but I am curious... if all you do is import the DD+ audio, why do LAV filters or FFDSHOW need to be installed?
It is reencoded to AC3 so you need Directshow to decode. E-AC3 & DD+ are illegal in BD if they don't have a AC3 core included (if memory serves me correctly).
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What are IGS streams?
Interactive Graphics Stream. From the Bluray Disc Format White Paper 2.B:
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A BD-ROM Interactive graphics stream contains information required to provide a series of interactive
displays, which appear and disappear with frame accuracy, that are supplemental to an associated HDMV
presentation. It is envisaged that Interactive graphics streams will typically be used to provide both the
display and associated commands of graphical interactive displays during a HDMV presentation.
It's format is similar to PGS (Presentation Graphics Streams), but with additional interactive capability.
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I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest version of BD Rebuilder (v0.50.24). Changes for this release:
Code:
- Added code to do a sanity check on font
  size settings in quick-menu and prevent
  text from overflowing it's display area.

- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to 
  the latest release (r2833).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE 
  to  the latest release (r2833).
THANK YOU mightily JD for still taking the time to give attention and update things (despite the fact that you are doing it for a collection of miscreant deadbeat dirtbags...)

What does the 'sanity check' do...? (sounds like MOST members here could probably use that...) Does this have anything to do with changing the font size in the menu so we can use more characters? (not that this site needs any more 'characters'...)

Have you noticed any continued slow down with respect to using the newest X264.exe's?
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It is reencoded to AC3 so you need Directshow to decode.
Ah, not good as I want the EAC3/DD+ to be passed through untouched. If I wanted it re-encoded, I'd do that myself. The less Dolby Digital recoding the better the audio quality.
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E-AC3 & DD+ are illegal in BD if they don't have a AC3 core included (if memory serves me correctly).
Digging thru my Bluray Demystified book (going to the indexed pages about DD+) I found the following:

a) first a note about DD+ in the table for Blu-ray audio formats:
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Dolby Digital Plus is only supported for more than 5.1 channels. The initial 5.1 channels
are encoded with the core Dolby Digital Substream - channel 7 and 8 (if available) are
encoded in Dolby Digital Plus.
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Dolby Digital Plus (DD+) is an extension of the legacy Dolby Digital format and provides
two additional channels, up to 7.1 channels. DD+ is based on the core Dolby Digital stream
and only the additional two channels are encoded using the DD+ extension while the core
5.1 streams are still encoded with the legacy Dolby Digital Substream.
So, why is services like Netfix and Amazon doing DD+ audio, but only providing 5.1 channels? Good question. Amazon is rolling it out more. Plus, how are DD+ encoders, like ffmpeg, able to flag an AC3 file as EAC3 with only 5.1 channels? No idea. I'd have to ask the ffmpeg coders that.

But, I found the free Dolby technical paper: https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technolo...tech-paper.pdf

What is interesting with this paper is that the 5.1 core can only be a max of 640 kbps.

So, based upon what I have read, the DD+ stream can be passed along untouched. In the case of DD+ having 7.1 channels, it MUST be passed though untouched. But, in order to allow for recoding to AC3 5.1, adding a hidden flag (DDPlus_recode=1, where 1 is the default and changing it to 0 allows for pass-through, no matter what).
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Interactive Graphics Stream.
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