madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[tp4tissue]

Originally Posted by Yog_Sothoth

Hello again. Is there a place where I can ask a question about madvr, like some forum maybe? I have a serious problem, which many people have probably had as well, so if there is such a place, someone should help me, I think.

Bitch, spit it out, what do you want..

[huhn]

well your provided information are very limited so.

so i guess the osd screen is just from madVR been paused on a at best "questionable" image host? and you have some jitter issues.
first of be more accurate would be a start.
a screen from not paused madVR the GPU i question with driver and what you really mean as the problem.

so the "GPU" you are using is an HD 4000 on windows 10 yes?

[ryrynz]

Originally Posted by Yog_Sothoth

Is there a place where I can ask a question about madvr?

Seems you found it.

[madjock]

He has, but unsure if its a language barrier or not but he has been asked 3 times now for extra information.

[Yog_Sothoth]

Originally Posted by madjock

He has, but unsure if its a language barrier or not but he has been asked 3 times now for extra information.

I've counted 1 time, by huhn. Please, show me the other 2.

Originally Posted by ryrynz

Seems you found it.

What makes you think so? I've asked a simple question about madvr, and It seems I'm being ignored here for some reason.

Originally Posted by huhn

well your provided information are very limited so.

so i guess the osd screen is just from madVR been paused on a at best "questionable" image host? and you have some jitter issues.
first of be more accurate would be a start.
a screen from not paused madVR the GPU i question with driver and what you really mean as the problem.

so the "GPU" you are using is an HD 4000 on windows 10 yes?

You are correct. Here's a screenshot with not paused madvr: https://fastpic.ru/view/111/2020/021...3b073.png.html, and here's a video: https://www30.zippyshare.com/v/tYSKLZjL/file.html. Does that look like jitter? I don't know what else to add here. As I said, I left the default settings, tried different decoders, I've installed the latest drivers, codecs, windows.

Originally Posted by tp4tissue

Bitch, spit it out, what do you want..

Pretty much what I said. Or should I presume that this is the forum I'm looking for?

[ryrynz]

Originally Posted by Yog_Sothoth

What makes you think so?

I don't think so, I know so, but it seems you've approached the forum without simply stating the issue.

Try D3D9 instead of D3D11.

[madjock]

Originally Posted by Yog_Sothoth

I've counted 1 time, by huhn. Please, show me the other 2.

https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php...ostcount=58491

https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php...ostcount=58526

[Yog_Sothoth]

Originally Posted by ryrynz

I don't think so, I know so, but it seems you've approached the forum without simply stating the issue.

What do you mean by "stating the issue"? Wasn't my issue, that I stated, enough?

Try D3D9 instead of D3D11.

How to do that?

Originally Posted by madjock

https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php...ostcount=58491

https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php...ostcount=58526

That was the same dude, who I gave the details to when he managed to use quotation properly, which he ignored, which fact you ignored for some reason as well.

[huhn]

i asked for the GPU driver and i got "lasted" so nothing i don't even know if it is from windows update or at installed by you.
please share the driver with us and if you installed it using windows update or not.

i asked you to upload an image of the OSD and you did but for some reason it has to be a freaking porn site...

are you even using an HD 4000 i'm guessing here and i don't want to guess.

which windows version is that you have a composition rate the current release version doesn't seem to do that with the current WDDM model.

How to do that?

rendering -> general settings -> uncheck "use Direct3D 11 for..."

[Yog_Sothoth]

Originally Posted by huhn

i asked for the GPU driver and i got "lasted" so nothing i don't even know if it is from windows update or at installed by you.
please share the driver with us and if you installed it using windows update or not.

Just the latest driver from the manufacturer, ver. 10.18.10.5100, I downloaded it from their site.

i asked you to upload an image of the OSD and you did but for some reason it has to be a freaking porn site...

I don't know what you're talking about, it's just a popular image hosting.

are you even using an HD 4000 i'm guessing here and i don't want to guess.

Yes, as I told you before, you were correct, I indeed use this graphic chip. I also tried using just the CPU and different hardware decoders.

which windows version is that you have a composition rate the current release version doesn't seem to do that with the current WDDM model.

I'm not sure what half of what you said mean, but I indeed use the current Windows version: Win 10 Pro x64, ver. 1909.

rendering -> general settings -> uncheck "use Direct3D 11 for..."

Didn't help.

[ryrynz]

Originally Posted by Yog_Sothoth

Didn't help.

Try running msconfig and choose 'selective startup' and untick 'load startup items' if that doesn't change anything reset madVR to default settings with restore default settings.bat in the install directory.

[huhn]

I don't know what you're talking about, it's just a popular image hosting.

can you please take a different image page.

Yes, as I told you before, you were correct, I indeed use this graphic chip. I also tried using just the CPU and different hardware decoders.

that's not how this works. madVR runs on the GPU. if you take a software decoder or not doesn't matter.

I'm not sure what half of what you said mean, but I indeed use the current Windows version: Win 10 Pro x64, ver. 1909.

then i guess telling you that there seems to be a major issues with clock deviations doesn't help you too?
what audio renderer is used and what output plz be accurate?
line 8 on the OSD shouldn't be in the secs try to change the audio volume to make sure this is not just an odd "accident" the mouse wheel up and down using mpc-hc after you see the line on the OSD is enough.
plz check Vram usage with the taskmgmt.

[tp4tissue]

@Yogs

the composition rate should be right, it's 25hz interlaced, so you set to either 50p or 25p output, in this case it's 50p.

I still don't understand the description of the problem though.

WHAT SPECIFICALLY is the problem. I can't see the video.

Type out a description. is it stuttering, are the frames delayed, is the color wrong, what is wrong with the playback.

You've used the word Jitter, What is your understanding of jitter, as in what do you think jitter is suppose to be, and how does that picture demonstrate your idea of jitter.

I ask, because this forum's idea of jitter couldn't possibly be photographed/screenshoted/ or videotaped without a specifically timed testpattern.

Are you trying to explain what looks like motion-blur ?

As in, the guy is moving too fast for the exposure time of the camera, and he looks stretched out and blurred ? Is that what you're asking ?

[ryrynz]

Originally Posted by tp4tissue

I still don't understand the description of the problem though.

Presentation glitches, dropped frames and crap loads of repeated frames for some reason..

https://imgur.com/YbLimh8

If he doesn't have anything else interfering with madVR then it might just be a performance problem.. this is deinterlaced content.

[nsnhd]

What's the composition rate ? I rarely see it, under which condition it appears in the OSD ?

[ryrynz]

Composition rate is 50.000hz, condition?

[nsnhd]

I mean, mostly I don't see it in the madVR OSD (Ctrl-J)

[huhn]

the composition rate is the rate the desktop runs at this can mismatch with the real frame rate a windows 7 classic. workaround FSE.

this was fixed with windows 8 and the composition rate was gone everything was great except for the start thingy so everyone hated win 8 because this was far worse.

windows 10 had a composition rate witch can mismatch and it had other presentation issue depending on windows version WDDM driver whatever but the start thingy search thingy was broken now and it was total downgrade compared to win 7 but it was a start thingy so everyone loved it so people loved win 10. the FSE workaround doesn't work in windows 10 only overlay is a true fix.

[Siso]

Isn't windowed overlay, the second best mode to use with madvr?

[el Filou]

I use windowed fullscreen on Windows 10 and I always have a composition rate that matches refresh rate and no presentation glitches ever so it's definitely not an impossible thing to achieve.

@Yog_Sothoth
1. there is a very large clock deviation: 0,099 i.e. pretty much 0.1% which means at 50 fps you're gonna get a frame drop every 20 seconds as indicated by the OSD. Unfortunately this can have many possible root causes, software or hardware.

2. You have presentation glitches and the present queue isn't full. Has this screenshot been captured after doing Alt+Tab many times or displaying other software over the video? If the solutions presented by the other forumers here don't work, check if any other running programs are using the GPU often (you can see that in Task Manager details), which from my experience can be a source of frequent presentation glitches.