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Old 10th December 2009, 03:27   #6281  |  Link
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I'm trying to rip blu-rays down to a size that I can live with. I've found that is in the 8-12 gb range per file. So far both 2 pass with 8 gb limit and CQ 20 usually meets that for me.

Can someone explain the main differences is between these two other than a hard limit with the 2pass?
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Old 10th December 2009, 11:35   #6282  |  Link
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Ok 3hours 45 mins to go .. will see if it ends up good .. Is it ok if I used Trellis Enhanced ???? Will I get better quality ?
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Old 10th December 2009, 14:37   #6283  |  Link
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x264 changes (1361-1369):
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* Add support for MB-tree + B-pyramid. Modify B-adapt 2 to consider pyramid in its calculations. Generally results in many more B-frames being used when pyramid is on. Modify MB-tree statsfile reading to handle the reordering necessary. Make differing keyint or pyramid between passes into a fatal error
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Would you please put the option for B-Pyramid back? It can reduce bitrate up to 10%.
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Old 10th December 2009, 16:55   #6284  |  Link
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Ok ... The good news is result is more than amazing .. thanks man ... But it takes way too much time .. I guess I should get myself a brand new Core i7 just for Encoding BluRays LoL
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Old 10th December 2009, 17:33   #6285  |  Link
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I guess I should get myself a brand new Core i7 just for Encoding BluRays LoL
or wait for i9 (6 cores)

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Would you please put the option for B-Pyramid back? It can reduce bitrate up to 10%.
how do you know that?
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Old 10th December 2009, 18:04   #6286  |  Link
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@Atak

Well the reality is that I will be getting myself a Core i7 eXtreme come April or Max May 2010 ... Hope that will help a bit .. Now getting ready to encode Baraka ... Last night was a test on NBK (Natural Born Killers) ... And I must say I can't tell Original from encoded one ... BTW is it useful to use Trellis Enhanced or there is no difference ?

Please answer me b4 I start 15 hour encode ...
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Old 10th December 2009, 18:10   #6287  |  Link
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Would you please put the option for B-Pyramid back? It can reduce bitrate up to 10%.
According to Dark Shikari it can improve compression by 0% to 4%. Somewhere in the middle is probably realistic to expect.
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Old 10th December 2009, 19:37   #6288  |  Link
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Atak shall I use Trellis Enhanced or not plz do reply back !
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Old 10th December 2009, 21:09   #6289  |  Link
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If you don't mind the longer encoding times use it, else don't.
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Old 11th December 2009, 10:27   #6290  |  Link
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how do you know that?
Can't remember where

However, do you mind put the radio button back?
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Old 11th December 2009, 15:01   #6291  |  Link
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[IMG]c:\untitled.jpg[/IMG]

Yes the file video.mkv is there. I can play the file but there is no sound and I get this error message:

VLC can't recognize the input's format:
The format of 'D:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video - Log.txt' cannot be detected. Have a look the log for details.

Also here is the content of the log file.

eac3to v3.17
command line: "C:\Setup_Files\Converters\RipBot\Ripbot3\Tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "D:\Movies\Blurays\Let The Right One In\LTROI\" 1) 2: "D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv" -seekToIFrames 3: "D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.core.dts" -core 6: "D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\6_Subtitles_English.sup" 1: "D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt" -progressnumbers
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M2TS, 1 video track, 3 audio tracks, 1 subtitle track, 1:54:40, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 20 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: DTS, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 768kbps, 48khz, 1001ms
4: AC3, English, 5.0 channels, 448kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, 1001ms
5: AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, 1001ms
6: Subtitle (PGS), English
Creating file "D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"...
[s06] Extracting subtitle track number 6...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a03] Applying DTS delay...
[a03] A remaining delay of -1ms could not be fixed.
[a03] Creating file "D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.core.dts"...
[s06] Creating file "D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\6_Subtitles_English.sup"...
Added fps value (24 /1.001) to MKV header.
Video track 2 contains 164947 frames.
Subtitle track 6 contains 549 captions.
eac3to processing took 21 minutes, 18 seconds.
Done.
I have the same thing going on. Have you found a solution?
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Old 11th December 2009, 19:36   #6292  |  Link
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6 Channel Audio Fix

Atak,

I noticed that I was able to convert my X-men 3 Blu-ray and select 5.1 AC3 when using the new version of RipBot. Just finished converting the movie and the sound has come out all tinny. Picture is perfect but something happened with the conversion to 5.1 channel 640kbps AC3.

Any ideas?

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Old 11th December 2009, 22:37   #6293  |  Link
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I have the same thing going on. Have you found a solution?
check first post

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Any ideas?
I've also noticed distorted audio with your sample. I will have to ask madshi if this is a problem with ArcSoft decoder or with eac3to. Can you upload your x-men 3 sample again (50 MB .m2ts to www.mediafire.com)
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Old 12th December 2009, 05:39   #6294  |  Link
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Thanks Atak

Question for the Gurus: I've been encoding a lot of movies recently using Constant Quality (CQ). Why are the output results always so different for similar length movies. I've noticed that some movies create a 5gb 720p file on CQ 15 while others create a 9gb file on CQ 18?

It's like some movies just compress MUCH better than others? Is there anything I can check beforehand to detect which ones will need a lower or higher CQ because I find myself re-encoding the same movie a lot using this option. I'm aiming for a 6GB 720 file.

All my movies have a 640kbps audio track

Thanks

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Old 12th December 2009, 06:03   #6295  |  Link
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It's like some movies just compress MUCH better than others. Is there anything I can check beforehand to detect which ones will need a lower or higher CQ because I find myself re-encoding the same movie a lot using this option. I'm aiming for a 6GB 720 file.
Typical reasons for the difference in compressibility among movies would include:

1. The presence of many high-motion scenes, indicating an action film, versus other film genres. Think "The Matrix" versus your run-of-the-mill chick flick
2. Tricky source material, e.g. noisy/grainy picture. Think Darren Aronofsky's "Pi"!
3. Not exactly having to do with compressibility per se, but definitely affecting the file size you are targeting: Different video duration. You wouldn't expect encoding the extended cut of, say "The Return Of The King" to result in the same filesize with the normal cut, when using the same CQ value. There's a 50min difference
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Typical reasons for the difference in compressibility among movies would include:

1. The presence of many high-motion scenes, indicating an action film, versus other film genres. Think "The Matrix" versus your run-of-the-mill chick flick
2. Tricky source material, e.g. noisy/grainy picture. Think Darren Aronofsky's "Pi"!
3. Not exactly having to do with compressibility per se, but definitely affecting the file size you are targeting: Different video duration. You wouldn't expect encoding the extended cut of, say "The Return Of The King" to result in the same filesize with the normal cut, when using the same CQ value. There's a 50min difference
Thanks parsifal

I might just go back to 2-pass then to guarantee output size
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Old 12th December 2009, 08:11   #6297  |  Link
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all jobs finished

Hi

When I try to create a mkv file from a .264 file and one ac3 file using ripbot 1.14.5, I get a "All jobs finished" message imidiatly, but no file is produced. Why is that, and how do I fix it? I have also tried the latest version 1.14.6, but i get the same error.



heres my job1_EncodeVideoPass1.cmd

"E:\Apps\Rip BD To MKV\RipBot264v1.14.5\tools\x264\x264_x86.exe" "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --pass 1 --bitrate 8192 --stats "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --fps 24000/1001 --min-keyint 24 --keyint 240 --sar 1:1 --level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --direct auto --subme 7 --aq-mode 1 --trellis 1 --partitions all --me umh --output "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"

job1_EncodeVideoPass2.cmd

"E:\Apps\Rip BD To MKV\RipBot264v1.14.5\tools\x264\x264_x86.exe" "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --pass 2 --bitrate 8192 --stats "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --fps 24000/1001 --min-keyint 24 --keyint 240 --sar 1:1 --level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --direct auto --subme 7 --aq-mode 1 --trellis 1 --partitions all --me umh --output "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"


job1_MuxFiles.cmd

"E:\Apps\Rip BD To MKV\RipBot264v1.14.5\tools\mkvtoolnix\mkvmerge.exe" -o "E:\IceAge3.mkv" --title "IceAge3" --default-duration 0:24000/1001fps -d 0 -A -S "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264" --language 0:und --sync 0:0 -a 0 -D -S "E:\iceage3demux\00386+00364.track_4360.dts"


log file...



E:\>"E:\Apps\Rip BD To MKV\RipBot264v1.14.6\tools\x264\x264_x86.exe" "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --pass 1 --bitrate 8192 --stats "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --fps 24000/1001 --min-keyint 24 --keyint 240 --sar 1:1 --level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --direct auto --subme 7 --aq-mode 1 --trellis 1 --partitions all --me umh --output "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"

avis [error]: unsupported input format (DIB )

x264 [error]: could not open input file `E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs'


E:\>"E:\Apps\Rip BD To MKV\RipBot264v1.14.6\tools\x264\x264_x86.exe" "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --pass 2 --bitrate 8192 --stats "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --fps 24000/1001 --min-keyint 24 --keyint 240 --sar 1:1 --level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --direct auto --subme 7 --aq-mode 1 --trellis 1 --partitions all --me umh --output "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"

avis [error]: unsupported input format (DIB )

x264 [error]: could not open input file `E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs'


E:\>"E:\Apps\Rip BD To MKV\RipBot264v1.14.6\tools\mkvtoolnix\mkvmerge.exe" -o "E:\IceAge3.mkv" --title "IceAge3" --default-duration 0:24000/1001fps -d 0 -A -S "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264" --language 0:und --sync 0:0 -a 0 -D -S "E:\iceage3demux\00386+00364.track_4360.dts"

mkvmerge v2.9.9 ('Tutu') built on Nov 25 2009 21:13:31


Error: The file 'E:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264' has unknown type. Please have a look at the supported file types ('mkvmerge --list-types') and contact the author Moritz Bunkus <moritz@bunkus.org> if your file type is supported but not recognized properly.

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Elapsed Time: 00h:00m:02s



please let me know if this information is enought to analyze what might be wrong.

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I might just go back to 2-pass then to guarantee output size
Why do care so much about size?????????? Constant Quality is more imortant than stupid size! 2-pass use ONLY if you want to put your movies on DVD!!!

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Old 12th December 2009, 15:28   #6299  |  Link
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7.1 -> 5.1 FLAC Audio

I use PS3 Media Server for streaming MKVs to my PS3. Unfortuntely, PS3 Media Server does not handle 7.1 correctly and mixes the channels up on playback. Is there a way to convert 7.1 to 5.1 FLAC?

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Hi Atak

Here's the log from the latest version...

E:\>"E:\Apps\Rip BD To MKV\RipBot264v1.14.6\tools\x264\x264_x86.exe" "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --pass 1 --bitrate 8192 --stats "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --fps 24000/1001 --min-keyint 24 --keyint 240 --sar 1:1 --level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --direct auto --subme 7 --aq-mode 1 --trellis 1 --partitions all --me umh --output "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"

avis [error]: unsupported input format (DIB )

x264 [error]: could not open input file `E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs'


E:\>"E:\Apps\Rip BD To MKV\RipBot264v1.14.6\tools\x264\x264_x86.exe" "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --pass 2 --bitrate 8192 --stats "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --fps 24000/1001 --min-keyint 24 --keyint 240 --sar 1:1 --level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --direct auto --subme 7 --aq-mode 1 --trellis 1 --partitions all --me umh --output "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"

avis [error]: unsupported input format (DIB )

x264 [error]: could not open input file `E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs'


E:\>"E:\Apps\Rip BD To MKV\RipBot264v1.14.6\tools\mkvtoolnix\mkvmerge.exe" -o "E:\IceAge3.mkv" --title "IceAge3" --default-duration 0:24000/1001fps -d 0 -A -S "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264" --language 0:und --sync 0:0 -a 0 -D -S "E:\iceage3demux\00386+00364.track_4360.dts"

mkvmerge v2.9.9 ('Tutu') built on Nov 25 2009 21:13:31


Error: The file 'E:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264' has unknown type. Please have a look at the supported file types ('mkvmerge --list-types') and contact the author Moritz Bunkus <moritz@bunkus.org> if your file type is supported but not recognized properly.

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