Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64 - Page 258

v0lt · 7th March 2018, 17:08

Official ways to control the player:
- keyboard and mouse
- command line
- web interface
- MPCAPI_COMMAND (mpcapi.h)

If something of this does not work correctly, then tell me exactly what.
If there are problems with the playback of the network stream, then try LAV Slplitter Source.

Zero3K · 7th March 2018, 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by v0lt

Official ways to control the player:
- keyboard and mouse
- command line
- web interface
- MPCAPI_COMMAND (mpcapi.h)

If something of this does not work correctly, then tell me exactly what.
If there are problems with the playback of the network stream, then try LAV Slplitter Source.

I set LAV Splitter Source in the External Filters and changed the HTTP priority to it. Doing so didn't fix the issues with it playing the stream.

EDIT: I enabled UDP/HTTP since I disabled it and now the issues are fixed. So, its an issue with the internal filter used by MPC-BE when playing a HTTP stream. I hope that it is fixed in a later build.

EDIT2: Now its back to not working.

mclingo · 7th March 2018, 23:44

just noticed something odd with BE which I've just reinstalled, latest version. When I play a HDR movie it should look washed out as when not used in conjunction with MADVR it doesnt trigger HDR mode on my TV, however when i PLAY HDR movies they look very similar but not quite as good as when I play then in HDR through MADVR, has something been added to MPCBE to convert HDR to SDR as standard, if so how to do turn this off?

edit - found it, if you enable direct 3d and 10 bit mode it reverts back, how long has the EVR custom presenter been able to convery HDR to SDR, is this a recent thing?

edit 2 - reinstalled 1.5.0, back to normal, reinstalled latest again, same issue so it started with this version, playbag is also a bit choppy for me so i'm staying on 1.5.0

v0lt · 8th March 2018, 04:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclingo

has something been added to MPCBE to convert HDR to SDR as standard, if so how to do turn this off?

This does not turn off for the EVR-CP. But this does not work for the system EVR and other renderers.

I do not understand why you should turn off HDR to SDR conversion for EVR-CP.

Grimsdyke · 8th March 2018, 09:45

About chapter markers again. I have one Blu-Ray that is always loaded by BE using the same mpls and chapter markers do not work.
However, MPC-BE also offers (=> navigation) loading another mpls and with this chapter markers show up. Is there a way to 'force' BE to always use the other better playlist ??

Aleksoid1978 · 8th March 2018, 11:05

MPC-BE load playlist with "longest" duration.

Grimsdyke · 8th March 2018, 11:18

I am aware of that but MPC-BE lists two different playlists for the same file (same duration) and with the always loaded playlist chapter markers do NOT work - with the other they work.
Why does MPC-BE prefer the 'faulty' playlist ?

ryrynz · 8th March 2018, 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksoid1978

Show filters list.

I switched to internal filters, MPC audio renderer and EVR renderer but no change in File menu still usually freezing, ffdshow is in external but not ticked. I thought it might have something to do with the network location of the recent files but that doesn't seem to be the case. I tried deleting the recent file registry keys, deleting the player folder and reinstalling, unticking the remember recent files option but no change.

chros · 8th March 2018, 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryrynz

I had my File menu freezing the player

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryrynz

I switched to internal filters, MPC audio renderer and EVR renderer but no change in File menu still usually freezing

How and when does it freeze?
Although I mostly don't use File menu at all (only if I have to save resynced subtitles), but for me always the network drives freezed it for couple of seconds. (Otherwise I just open files from a file manager or via the android remote.)

mclingo · 8th March 2018, 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by v0lt

This does not turn off for the EVR-CP. But this does not work for the system EVR and other renderers.

I do not understand why you should turn off HDR to SDR conversion for EVR-CP.

I was just used to seeing it unconverted, I thought something was wrong.

Assume it does nothing with none HDR material then, is there a performance hit to GPU/CPU?

just interested more then anything.

v0lt · 8th March 2018, 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclingo

Assume it does nothing with none HDR material then, is there a performance hit to GPU/CPU?

Converting HDR to SDR works for HDR streams only.

ryrynz · 8th March 2018, 23:47

As soon as I try to expand the file menu it freezes. Not 100% of the time either. I've had this issue before.. Once it freezes it needs to be force closed.

v0lt · 9th March 2018, 05:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryrynz

As soon as I try to expand the file menu it freezes.

Use option "Disable 'Open Disk' menu".

ryrynz · 9th March 2018, 07:23

Thanks, I remember now I had to do this before. Any chance you can find a way of it not freezing without having to select this?
I currently have no optical drive connected, sometimes it didn't freeze.

chros · 9th March 2018, 09:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryrynz

Any chance you can find a way of it not freezing without having to select this?
I currently have no optical drive connected, sometimes it didn't freeze.

Quote:

Originally Posted by v0lt

Use option "Disable 'Open Disk' menu".

@v0lt: is it because of network drives?

v0lt · 9th March 2018, 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryrynz

I currently have no optical drive connected, sometimes it didn't freeze.

This is true for all disks (HDD, USB, network) with a letter (X: ).

I think we can make the "Open Disk" menu always active. Then it will slow down when entering "Open Disk", not "File".
We will discuss this.

chros · 9th March 2018, 13:38

Sounds good, I think that's how MPC-HC works (you can take a look).

v0lt · 9th March 2018, 18:34

I looked at the code. The standard menu does not allow me to do as I wanted.

chros · 9th March 2018, 18:43

I just tried it out, I have 1 network drive, 2 different drives in the laptop and 1 USB drive:
1. wake up the laptop from sleep
2. start MPC-BE without any files
3. hit File menu
short time to wait to be opened (~5 sec)
4. close MPC-BE
5. start MPC-BE without any files again
6. hit File menu
it instantly opens up

So, in my case, the OS (Win8.1) caches that the network drive is available so next time it won't wait for it (confirmed with Total Commander).

BetA13 · 10th March 2018, 03:06

hy there,

any chance of integrating something like the built in audio switcher in mpchc?
The ability to manual set the channels is the only one thing im missing from mpcBE..

It is, for me, the only way to get the rear speaker working when using stereo sources..i like to have them all working when watching stereo sources.. i know its kinda a personal thing, but my soundcard died and the onboard soundcard does not have the option to propper upsample..

im just curíous if you guys think about adding something like this..

anyway, great player and development so far..

greetings

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v0lt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,971	Official ways to control the player: - keyboard and mouse - command line - web interface - MPCAPI_COMMAND (mpcapi.h) If something of this does not work correctly, then tell me exactly what. If there are problems with the playback of the network stream, then try LAV Slplitter Source. __________________ MPC-BE 1.7.0 and Nightly builds \| VideoRenderer \| ImageSource \| ScriptSource \| BassAudioSource

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mclingo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,348	just noticed something odd with BE which I've just reinstalled, latest version. When I play a HDR movie it should look washed out as when not used in conjunction with MADVR it doesnt trigger HDR mode on my TV, however when i PLAY HDR movies they look very similar but not quite as good as when I play then in HDR through MADVR, has something been added to MPCBE to convert HDR to SDR as standard, if so how to do turn this off? edit - found it, if you enable direct 3d and 10 bit mode it reverts back, how long has the EVR custom presenter been able to convery HDR to SDR, is this a recent thing? edit 2 - reinstalled 1.5.0, back to normal, reinstalled latest again, same issue so it started with this version, playbag is also a bit choppy for me so i'm staying on 1.5.0 Last edited by mclingo; 8th March 2018 at 00:27.

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chros Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,323	Sounds good, I think that's how MPC-HC works (you can take a look). __________________ Ryzen 5 2600,Asus Prime b450-Plus,16GB,MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X 6GB(v398.18),Win10 LTSC 1809,MPC-BEx64+LAV+MadVR,Yamaha RX-A870,LG OLED77G2(2160p@23/24/25/29/30/50/59/60Hz) \| madvr config

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v0lt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,971	I looked at the code. The standard menu does not allow me to do as I wanted. __________________ MPC-BE 1.7.0 and Nightly builds \| VideoRenderer \| ImageSource \| ScriptSource \| BassAudioSource

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Grimsdyke Registered User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Hannover, Germany Posts: 293	About chapter markers again. I have one Blu-Ray that is always loaded by BE using the same mpls and chapter markers do not work. However, MPC-BE also offers (=> navigation) loading another mpls and with this chapter markers show up. Is there a way to 'force' BE to always use the other better playlist ??

8th March 2018, 11:18	#5147 \| Link
Grimsdyke Registered User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Hannover, Germany Posts: 293	I am aware of that but MPC-BE lists two different playlists for the same file (same duration) and with the always loaded playlist chapter markers do NOT work - with the other they work. Why does MPC-BE prefer the 'faulty' playlist ?

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ryrynz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,650	As soon as I try to expand the file menu it freezes. Not 100% of the time either. I've had this issue before.. Once it freezes it needs to be force closed.

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ryrynz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,650	Thanks, I remember now I had to do this before. Any chance you can find a way of it not freezing without having to select this? I currently have no optical drive connected, sometimes it didn't freeze.

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chros Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,323	I just tried it out, I have 1 network drive, 2 different drives in the laptop and 1 USB drive: 1. wake up the laptop from sleep 2. start MPC-BE without any files 3. hit File menu short time to wait to be opened (~5 sec) 4. close MPC-BE 5. start MPC-BE without any files again 6. hit File menu it instantly opens up So, in my case, the OS (Win8.1) caches that the network drive is available so next time it won't wait for it (confirmed with Total Commander). __________________ Ryzen 5 2600,Asus Prime b450-Plus,16GB,MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X 6GB(v398.18),Win10 LTSC 1809,MPC-BEx64+LAV+MadVR,Yamaha RX-A870,LG OLED77G2(2160p@23/24/25/29/30/50/59/60Hz) \| madvr config

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BetA13 cosmic entity Join Date: May 2011 Location: outside the Box Posts: 258	hy there, any chance of integrating something like the built in audio switcher in mpchc? The ability to manual set the channels is the only one thing im missing from mpcBE.. It is, for me, the only way to get the rear speaker working when using stereo sources..i like to have them all working when watching stereo sources.. i know its kinda a personal thing, but my soundcard died and the onboard soundcard does not have the option to propper upsample.. im just curíous if you guys think about adding something like this.. anyway, great player and development so far.. greetings