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Old 18th May 2017, 02:02   #43741  |  Link
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Yes i have always used video clock in JR and it seems to work fine...
Do you find any sound quality difference between bitstreaming and multi-channel PCM?
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Old 18th May 2017, 02:07   #43742  |  Link
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Not that I have noticed..
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Old 18th May 2017, 06:28   #43743  |  Link
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Is it more correct to set my 1080 video card on resolution to 23 rather than 24?
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Old 18th May 2017, 06:45   #43744  |  Link
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Is it more correct to set my 1080 video card on resolution to 23 rather than 24?
Yes, 23 is suitable for 23.976 playback
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Old 18th May 2017, 18:53   #43745  |  Link
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Yes, 23 is suitable for 23.976 playback
why not 24? Would that produce stutter? 23.976 is an error anyway since its supposed to be 24, why do theyy still use it.

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i'm pretty sure cameras can do both.
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Old 19th May 2017, 03:26   #43747  |  Link
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why not 24? Would that produce stutter? 23.976 is an error anyway since its supposed to be 24, why do theyy still use it.
Has to do with NTSC.

There's some true 24fps blu-rays out there still, just very few.
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Old 19th May 2017, 09:36   #43748  |  Link
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Hello!

I've been having hangs using potplayer, when I quickly open files after each other, fast enought so the playback doesn't have time to start.
At last I thoroughly tested it and it apparently it depends on using madVR as a renderer. I reported it to the potplayer dev (with Potplayer and madVR configuration) and he claims it's a madVR bug.
I of course can't tell whether he's right or not, but I thought I'd mention it here.
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Old 19th May 2017, 12:32   #43749  |  Link
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just want to ask does anyone have a problem opening madvr settings with windows 10?
its a new build with windows 10 updated to the latest patch, so im wondering if i need to install anything else to make madvr works.
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Old 19th May 2017, 12:52   #43750  |  Link
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just want to ask does anyone have a problem opening madvr settings with windows 10?
its a new build with windows 10 updated to the latest patch, so im wondering if i need to install anything else to make madvr works.
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No problems here, but running the Restore Default Settings batch file has always fixed any madVR problems I've run into after a change to my system.

Just be sure to make a note of all your settings before you run it, if you can get to them. Best bet is to run "madHcCtrl.exe editLocalSettingsDontWait" command from the madVR folder.

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No problems here, but running the Restore Default Settings batch file has always fixed any madVR problems I've run into after a change to my system.

Just be sure to make a note of all your settings before you run it, if you can get to them. Best bet is to run "madHcCtrl.exe editLocalSettingsDontWait" command from the madVR folder.
it still wont appear.
i tried both that line and editLocalSettings but still the same.
the apps is running in the task manager and need to be force closed, but the window settings still not appearing
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just found this and found the problem with nahimic 2. now it appears.
http://bugs.madshi.net/view.php?id=478

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Old 19th May 2017, 19:38   #43752  |  Link
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How to test the speed of a graphics card for an algorithm NGU sharp ?
Is interested in NVIDIA 1070-1080 vs AMD RX 570-580.
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The 1080 is faster (and 2x the price). Polaris doesn't like NGU very much.
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How many times faster?
2x as price or less ?
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Much less than twice... though I am not sure as to the exact ratio. I haven't seen any good benchmarks, only anecdotes from this thread.

Edit: Oops, it is probably around twice as fast.
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it's not easy to do. boost clocks are unstable other algorithm are using the GPU too.

a 1060 is about 3-5 times as fast using NGU as a 480.
i wouldn't be shocked if a 480 is generally fast when NGU isn't used.

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a 1060 is about 3-5 times as fast using NGU as a 480.
I doubt it.
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i had both cards what's your reason for the doubt?

just as a reference i can do NGU sharp very high normal chroma with my 1060 when scaling 1080p23 -> 2160p23.
compare that. high is already a problem for the RX 480.

there goes something terrible wrong when using NGU on polaris cards. my r9 270 was totally fine using NGU.
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i can do NGU sharp very high normal chroma with my 1060 when scaling 1080p23 -> 2160p23.
Really? What are your render times? Can you post OSD screen?
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high is already a problem for the RX 480.
My RX 470 can do NGU Sharp High and has a lot of headroom left. Test results below.

1080p23 -> 2160p23. All settings identical except for Luma:

NGU Sharp Very High - 69.5ms (SM ON); 51ms (SM OFF)
NGU Sharp High - 24.7ms (SM ON); 22.8ms (SM OFF)
NGU Sharp Medium - 15.5ms (SM ON); 13.5ms (SM OFF)

NNEDI3 256 - 89ms (SM ON); 83.2ms (SM OFF)
NNEDI3 128 - 50.5ms (SM ON); 47.3ms (SM OFF)
NNEDI3 64 - 31.6ms (SM ON); 29.6ms (SM OFF)

I included smooth motion results because with NGU Very High performance hit was very hard for some reason, thought it was interesting.
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Old 20th May 2017, 16:19   #43760  |  Link
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sure https://abload.de/img/nguveryhigh2zcjho.png

way better result i'm used to.
make me wonder if a driver update is the reason because my finding back in 2016 early 2017 where confirmed by other user and yours are not even close to it.
i wonder why noone else is noticing such a giant permanence increase and reportet it.

that's only about 1.5-2x.

BTW. i was using SM back in the days.

i saw stuff like 150 ms with my 480 back in the days (ngu was used on chroma doubling too).
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