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24th January 2014, 23:43 | #21741 | Link |
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Madshi said the opencl dithering has a lower noise floor so that should produce better quality. Haven't looked at it yet so the difference might not be terribly noticeable and given the huge increase in gpu usage it requires may not be worth enabling unless you have a good gpu. As for lav I would recommend just keeping the default random dithering. Doesn't hurt to test these out and look at them yourself and decide what suits your tastes.
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24th January 2014, 23:43 | #21742 | Link |
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If you use madVR, LAV should never need to dither anyway, so the option in LAV is really unimportant.
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Figured I'd report my findings to help narrow down bugs.
Using MadVR 0.87.1, according to control panel. (AKA 0.87f) MPC-HC 1.7.1.383 (Latest nightly.) Nvidia GTX 780 graphics card. Quadro Driver 334.67. Intel 3770k @ 4.2 GHZ Tested with lav hardware acceleration 'none' and 'dxva2 (native)'. Tested in windowed mode. No 'trade quality for performance' options checked with smooth motion enabled, black screen. Only 'use random dithering instead of OpenCL error diffusion' under 'trade quality for performance' checked with smooth motion enabled, flashing screen between picture and black until completely black. Only 'use random dithering instead of OpenCL error diffusion' under 'trade quality for performance' checked with smooth motion disabled, video plays back normally. MadVR settings. Everything under processing tab - disabled. Chroma upscaling - Jinc 3 taps w/ anti-ringing. Image doubling - all settings disabled. Image upscaling - Jinc 3 taps w/ anti-ringing. Image downscaling - Catmull-Rom w/ anti-ringing & linear light. Rendering general settings - only fullscreen exclusive mode and separate device for presentation checked. CPU queue size: 16, GPU queue size: 8. Default windowed and exclusive mode settings. |
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Does madVR show correct fps in OSD (CTRL+J)? Have you tried using some other numerical values checks, like (scrHeight>768) or any other, just to be sure it's not related to incorrect fps detection? Maybe you need (deintFps==60)? Or try (srcFps>59) to eliminate problems with non-integer values, like 59,94 or 60,6? Can you see a green tick icon on the right just over the auto selection rules? It's a built-in validator for the scripts, shows either a green tick (ok) or red triangle icon(invalid script). |
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Have you considered adding in a upscale/downscale gaussian resize kernel, it just happens to my favorite blurring kernel so I thought I would ask.
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25th January 2014, 00:34 | #21747 | Link |
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ok i give up and am looking for help with the scripting, if the source is 23.976, 25. or 29.97p i want to use Profile 1 if the source is 29.97i or 50p or 59.94p i want it to use Profile 2
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if (srcFps<=30) and (!srcInterlaced) "Profile 1" else "Profile 2" |
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25th January 2014, 03:05 | #21749 | Link | |
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oh and i am still noticing a performance issue with 87x i cannot do 1080i at all render queue stays empty. if i revert back to 0.86 deband14 the same 1080i video plays perfect, render queue stays full |
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25th January 2014, 03:45 | #21750 | Link | |
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But for me the problem is not fixed in test build 0.87f. Instead, when opening a video file the whole screen flickers very shortly, and then i get a *green* video screen with some weird artifacts on the top-left: http://i.imgur.com/CstoDBp.png Windows 7 x64 / MPC-HC x86 / LAV / Geforce 8800GTS |
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Playback freezes when dragging the window to another monitor or to the TV. Dragging it back does not fix it.
MPC-BE and latest 0.87f. all 0.87 versions do this...going back to old version. Also, image doubling freezes image too. |
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Have had this happen on the c as as f builds, bringing up the OSD and then using CTRL-J again doesn't make the OSD disappear on the black bars of the window (4:3 image on 6:10 screen)
Could be the newer Intel drivers though, perhaps take a look when you test the old 'separate device' issue along with the blinking on entry exit of fullscreen I mentioned with the .3383 drivers. |
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Test 0.87f build + MPC-BE 1.3.0.3 + XySubFilter 3.1.0.546 + GeForce driver 320.49 and 332.32 with IonLE(GF9300) on Win7 x64 SP1. The most ordinatory options available in 0.86.x build + debanding option work fine except following:
1. P10 contents shows nothing on the video window. 2. SmoothMotion option causes black rectangle box on ASS sub-title text. (this time it always presents no matter what option or configuration reset operation...) 3. Chroma NNEDI3 scaling option causes GREENish video 4. Any other option which requires OpenCL causes BSOD... @_@ Last edited by pie1394; 25th January 2014 at 06:54. |
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using exclusive fullscreen and switching the file with page up or mouse button 4/5 in mpc-hc frezzes the image but sound is still working like using opencl with nvidia but this happens with amd and no opencl options! it is still possible to stop playback with pressing the left mouse button but to close or leave the frozen image alt f4 is needed. a vfr file runs almost fine with 86.9 6.5 ms but is runs very very bad with 87f 11 ms i can use spline3 ar with 86.9 but 87f doesn't work with bilinear. i don't think this is related to the "high" cpu usage from the debanding+ builds. amd 6770 13.12 phenom 2 x4 955 Last edited by huhn; 25th January 2014 at 12:42. Reason: vfr not vbr |
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1) IVideoWindow Interface does not support windowless mode and the interface IVMRWindowlessControl is not supported. How to make madVR windowless ? 2) 3RD PARTY SOFTWARE RESTRICTIONS : The software "madVR" may not be distributed together with any 3rd party software without the written consent of the "madVR" author. So, do I have to pay license fees ? Regards, |
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------- So here's 87g: http://madshi.net/madVR87g.rar NVidia users, please stay away from all OpenCL related options for now. Also make sure the "use random dithering..." option in the "trade quality..." section is checked/enabled. I'll look into making OpenCL work for NVidia once all the other problems (introduced by v0.87) are solved. |
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Nvidia user here. Let me start by saying that I do NOT have any black screen issues when using the OpenCL error diffusion instead of random dithering. Instead, I get swapped red and blue channels.
This happens on two systems I've tried the new main 0.87 build on. The primary system has a GTX 560 Ti w/driver 306.97 The second system has a GTX 460 w/driver 310.90 Both are running Windows 7 64-bit with MPC-HC 1.7.1.220, LAV filters 0.59.1 and XySubFilter 3.1.0.546. The swapped colors are easy to correct, as I simply use the ffdshow raw video filter's built-in avisynth module and add the line: "SwapUV" and voila, problem solved. This was even easier since I was already using the ffdshow raw avisynth filter to decimate 29.97 fps video to 23.976 fps on-the-fly to eliminate that annoying judder on some old videos. On average, toggling OpenCL error diffusion adds 10% GPU load to whatever the base load is. Though for me that's not an issue as the GTX 460 never reaches even 50% load with all the trade-quality-for-performance options disabled. Never tried any of the NNEDI3 stuff as I see no need. Same with smooth motion conversion. That said, I really like the new deband filters. They work well. |
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