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Old 24th September 2016, 11:49   #39521  |  Link
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@kotik and robl45:

Does this 3D Problems happen with all mkv files? have you tried files created with newer version of makemkv? I ask because there where a bug with storing the left/right information in 3D movies.

This bug was fixed since 1.10.2:

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MakeMKV v1.10.2 (11.9.2016 )
Added support for AACS v62
Improved support for BD-Java discs
Small user interface improvements
Bug fixes:
The 3D left/right MVC view information was not preserved correctly when creating 3D MKV file
Could be worth a try...
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Old 24th September 2016, 12:00   #39522  |  Link
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Thank you for letting me know!

Totally forgot about image doubling since my 860m card wasn't able to do it.

[Trying to convince more people to use madVR and they were shocked on the quality improvements, but asked me if we can also increase resolution more than what display can do.]
Actually if have time and patience to tweak your profiles you pretty able to use image doubling with a 860m gpu... I can use with weaker cards like a 930m.... it's just a matter of finding the right settings... balance the refinements vs doubling and maybe do some overclock... works great with my weaker 930m especially the sxbr brands
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Old 25th September 2016, 00:40   #39523  |  Link
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Anandtech reports that "the NUC6i5SYK [Skylake] has the most accurate display refresh rates of all the PCs that we have evaluated so far". I can only get 23.979 with 23.976 video material on a Samsung UHD TV that returns a refresh rate of 23.976 with a Haswell NUC D54250WYK.

It doesn't appear to matter which windowed mode I use I can only get 23.979 with the Skylake NUC. My preferred mode for the Haswell NUC is windowed overlay (Windows 7 and newer).

Does anyone have a solution to enable 23.976 playback on the Skylake NUC?
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Old 25th September 2016, 04:37   #39524  |  Link
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Dont know about NUC SkyLake but the i3 SkyLake gives me 23.976 exactly.
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Old 25th September 2016, 19:33   #39525  |  Link
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Just to let you guys know: I'm busy working on commercial stuff atm (have to earn my living, after all). There will be a new madVR version in maybe 2-3 weeks or so (maybe longer), with a brand new algorithm that you guys will probably like a lot.
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Old 25th September 2016, 19:49   #39526  |  Link
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I can test but I don't think that is the case, you may be right, but I'm watching from a projector and can easily swap the eyes from my glasses. I will test what you are describing and see if this is the case.

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I am having the same issue with my SkyLake and sometimes can reproduce it with R7 240 (harder to reproduce).

It is not "off slightly" as u state, it is wrong order for left/right eye. And for me it is totally random, it depends on how the movie will start, if it starts with proper order then it will play till the end fine but if it starts with the wrong order then it will stay like that till the end, sometimes moving the mouse or spamming play/pause will fix the order but not always.

U can test it urself to confirm, in case ur tv has an option to switch the order. Simply start the movie and when u see that the order is wrong switch it on ur tv aswell and u will notice that it will play fine. Like i said happens on AMD aswell but not so often.

And before someone says that the left/right order might be wrong as an info inside the .mkv, it also happens during .ssif files playback.
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Old 25th September 2016, 19:59   #39527  |  Link
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Dont know about NUC SkyLake but the i3 SkyLake gives me 23.976 exactly.
My I3 skylake does too although it barely processes madvr, gpu load ends up at 100% with all but basic settings. I asked before but if anyone has the perfect settings for internal GPU on Skylake, please let me know.
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Old 25th September 2016, 20:00   #39528  |  Link
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@kotik and robl45:

Does this 3D Problems happen with all mkv files? have you tried files created with newer version of makemkv? I ask because there where a bug with storing the left/right information in 3D movies.

This bug was fixed since 1.10.2:



Could be worth a try...
I am using 1.10.1 currently or did and older, I can certainly try that once I confirm its actually the eyes being flipped which doesn't quite seem the case for me, but I could be wrong.
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Old 25th September 2016, 21:57   #39529  |  Link
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Just to let you guys know: I'm busy working on commercial stuff atm (have to earn my living, after all). There will be a new madVR version in maybe 2-3 weeks or so (maybe longer), with a brand new algorithm that you guys will probably like a lot.
I can not wait to try this new algorithm!
Any exclusive info about it?

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Old 25th September 2016, 22:00   #39530  |  Link
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I can test but I don't think that is the case, you may be right, but I'm watching from a projector and can easily swap the eyes from my glasses. I will test what you are describing and see if this is the case.
tested now, its definitely not from the eyes flipped, its clearly not syncing correctly. once in a while its correct, then it gets out of sync just slightly. The 3d doesn't look quite right and you can visibly see the scene changes, like one scene is peeling off the screen to the next one.

Tested straight Make MKV rip as well as the usual mvc encoded smaller versions that I normally use. Used lastest mkv this time. Still same issue.

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Old 25th September 2016, 23:22   #39531  |  Link
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Dont know about NUC SkyLake but the i3 SkyLake gives me 23.976 exactly.
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My I3 skylake does too although it barely processes madvr, gpu load ends up at 100% with all but basic settings. I asked before but if anyone has the perfect settings for internal GPU on Skylake, please let me know.
Thanks both for trying. My 23.979 issue may be due to the Intel HD Graphics drivers for the NUC. I am running Windows 7 Professional x64.

I may end up installing Windows 10 just to test this.
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Old 26th September 2016, 00:13   #39532  |  Link
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a brand new algorithm that you guys will probably like a lot
Not again
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Old 26th September 2016, 00:32   #39533  |  Link
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Not again
Agreed, just when I found a comfort zone with existing algorithms.

There is no holding back progress...
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Old 26th September 2016, 06:51   #39534  |  Link
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Just to let you guys know: I'm busy working on commercial stuff atm (have to earn my living, after all). There will be a new madVR version in maybe 2-3 weeks or so (maybe longer), with a brand new algorithm that you guys will probably like a lot.

Thank you for the good news!
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Old 26th September 2016, 10:18   #39535  |  Link
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Just "brand new algorithm" after all these long months!
We need more information!

Hey dudes, what are your predictions about this brand new algo?
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Old 26th September 2016, 10:23   #39536  |  Link
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The new algo creates world peace, obviously.
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The new algo creates world peace, obviously.
Not even a little hint?
There are tons of ways to create world peace.
But how many of them are actually effective?
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No hints, sorry...
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Old 26th September 2016, 11:54   #39539  |  Link
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Is it possible to somehow render MadVR's output to a file or back into vapoursynth / avisynth or something?

I'm basically looking for a way to encode HDR clips / movies to regular SDR files in the way madVr does the converting / compression. It looks awesome (to me) and that way I can take the movies with me on tablet or in the non-HDR tv in the bedroom.

I'm converting it now manually, and I tweak it manually with a final gamma adjustment and a levels/histogram adjustment to get it looking nice. But madVr's way is nicer, and my way probably works fine for shorter clips but for longer clips or full movies it will look nice in one part but horrible dark or bright in another part :S.
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Hey guys!

Spent a lot of time here some years ago, but my setup was stable for some time and I drifted away . Good to see some familiar names still here

Anyway, just got myself an LG OLED 65 E6 and an RX-460, via a Yamaha 2060, so I'm back at the cutting edge trying to get 4K, high bit-depth etc. all working.

Can I ask a few questions about MadVR as it is now (well I can ask, hopefully someone is happy to answer!)

- How do you know you are getting the right bit depth with D3D9. D3D11 says "(10-bit)" but D3D9 just says "(new path)". 10-bit isn't limited to DX11 is it?

- Trouble is JRiver seems to crash when I close a video with the DX11 path, app just freezes with the final frame and I have to use task manager to kill it. If this is a known issue with a solution it would be great to know .

Any tips for best settings to use with the 460 and an LG 2016 OLED would also be much appreciated!
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