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Old 31st January 2014, 20:15   #19021  |  Link
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My first attempt of 3DMKV(1/2 SBS) to 3DBD appeared to work. But I never saw anything about using FRIM. It used X264. And there was no "SSIF" data. So perhaps I'm confused as to the 3DBD standard. The resulting file stays in SBS? I won't be trying again, until I have my 3D display in a week or two. Though BDrebuilder seemed to acknowledge that everything 3D was kosher, regarding the input.
You're doing something wrong. If you have a pseudo structure source that was created by importing a SBS source, and you choose movie-only output, and not ALTERNATE (it HAS to be movie-only, because BD-RB only supports BD3D for movie-only) -- FRIM will be used and you will get a full BD3D compliant structure after the encode. FRIM is the only way to do MVC encoding with BD-RB, X264 can't do it.

Keeping it SBS would defeat the whole purpose.
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Old 31st January 2014, 20:17   #19022  |  Link
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You're doing something wrong. If you have a pseudo structure source that was created by importing a SBS source, and you choose movie-only output (it HAS to be movie-only, because BD-RB only supports BD3D for movie-only) -- FRIM will be used and you will get a full BD3D compliant structure after the encode.
Thanks JD. I'll likely try again today

"Keeping it in sbs would defeat the purpose"

I had a thought about that. That's why I posted. I'll try again.
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so itīs done, the bd-25 source of "odd thomas" (reencoded from the original source) did the job well. the dvd9 sized output looks great. here is the OT_DVD9_LASTCMD.TXT:

"C:\video\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "C:\VIDEO\FILM\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS" --preset medium --bluray-compat --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 7625 --level 4.0 --qpfile "C:\VIDEO\FILM\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP" --sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 13000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 15000 --threads auto --thread-input --stats "C:\VIDEO\FILM\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264.stats" --pass 2 --output "C:\VIDEO\FILM\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"

now i will reencode the bd-25 source to dvd5 size with 1440x1080 resolution and dts-reencoding to ac3 (what was the my first problem in question), but i cannot reencode the original source main movie to dvd5 size with 1440x1080 resolution in one step (i only have the mainmovie "odd thomas" riped from the original bluray)!
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so itīs done, the bd-25 source of "odd thomas" (reencoded from the original source) did the job well. the dvd9 sized output looks great. here is the OT_DVD9_LASTCMD.TXT:

"C:\video\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "C:\VIDEO\FILM\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS" --preset medium --bluray-compat --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 7625 --level 4.0 --qpfile "C:\VIDEO\FILM\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP" --sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 13000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 15000 --threads auto --thread-input --stats "C:\VIDEO\FILM\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264.stats" --pass 2 --output "C:\VIDEO\FILM\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"

now i will reencode the bd-25 source to dvd5 size with 1440x1080 resolution and dts-reencoding to ac3 (what was the my first problem in question), but i cannot reencode the original source main movie to dvd5 size with 1440x1080 resolution in one step (i only have the mainmovie "odd thomas" riped from the original bluray)!
Are you posting for the fun of it, or are we actually trying to accomplish something here? You seem to spend your time posting, but don't take the time to read responses. This is a bug reporting thread after all.
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Old 31st January 2014, 20:28   #19025  |  Link
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Hmmmm, well I had a line in my config about MVC so I removed it. Encoding has now started. I think I had to add MVC from a different package,something to do with the 3D side of things? Do I need it?
BD-RB no longer uses any MVC decoder from any other package. I don't see how that could affect it...
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Old 31st January 2014, 20:29   #19026  |  Link
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Well, I currently have this so I assume its encoding OK?

- Input BD size: 5.85 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:34:50.726]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Warning: SBS 3D source indicated.
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[18:54:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:54:14] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [18:54:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [18:57:42] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 136,441 frames
- Bitrate: 30,562 Kbs
- [18:57:42] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
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I really should have heeded the warning.
"- Warning: SBS 3D source indicated."
By selecting movie only output, all appears to be well so far.

Rendez2k, are you setup for movie only ouput? Because apparently that's necessary.

Perhaps when importing a single title, full backup can be grayed out, and not possible.
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Bugger. Nope, it was on full disc. Will have to try again tomorrow now!
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I really should have heeded the warning.
"- Warning: SBS 3D source indicated."
By selecting movie only output, all appears to be well so far.

Rendez2k, are you setup for movie only ouput? Because apparently that's necessary.

Perhaps when importing a single title, full backup can be grayed out, and not possible.
Yeah, I should probably do something to steer the process in the right direction. Maybe automatically select MOVIE-ONLY when the import is complete... I hate to block full backup completely , because there might be someone who wants to keep SBS output to BD. Although I admit that is probably rare.
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Are you posting for the fun of it, or are we actually trying to accomplish something here? You seem to spend your time posting, but don't take the time to read responses. This is a bug reporting thread after all.
i think it is a bug when bd-rebuilder isnīt able to rebuild a movie only source from "odd thomas" (man, other bdīs work fine), to dvd5 size with 1440x1080 resolution in one step! the result was a very uggly videoquality with blocks out of order! but i will stop writing posts now. i have helped myself and i have what i wanted! the trick to rebuild the original to bd-25 size seems to work.

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All decoders fail, and no encode initiates.
Code:
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[11:24:54] Importing MKV: SURFING3D
  - Collecting audio/video streams from source...
  - Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[11:28:25] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[01/31/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.07 (beta)
[11:31:06] Source:  SURFING3D_00000
  - Input BD size: 9.35 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:40:16.009]
  - Target BD size: 22.95 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
  - Converting SBS source to 3D-BD format
  - Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
  - MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
  - Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[11:31:06] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [11:31:06] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
 - [11:31:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
 - [11:32:48] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 144,240 frames
   - Bitrate: 24,998 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC reencoding
 - [11:32:48] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
[11:32:48] - Failed video encode, aborted
----------------------
[01/31/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.07 (beta)
[11:38:06] Source:  SURFING3D_00000
  - Input BD size: 9.35 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:40:16.009]
  - Target BD size: 22.95 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
  - Converting SBS source to 3D-BD format
  - Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
  - MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
  - Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[11:38:07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [11:38:07] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
 - [11:38:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
 - [11:39:51] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 144,240 frames
   - Bitrate: 24,998 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC reencoding
 - [11:39:51] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
[11:39:52] - Failed video encode, aborted
----------------------
[01/31/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.07 (beta)
[11:41:13] Source:  SURFING3D_00000
  - Input BD size: 9.35 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:40:16.009]
  - Target BD size: 22.95 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
  - Converting SBS source to 3D-BD format
  - Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
  - MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
  - Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[11:41:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [11:41:17] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
 - [11:41:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
 - [11:43:02] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 144,240 frames
   - Bitrate: 24,998 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC reencoding
 - [11:43:02] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
[11:43:03] - Failed video encode, aborted
"INF"
Code:
[Status]
LABEL=SURFING3D
VERSION=v0.46.07 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=10039357440
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=10039357440
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=2.454493342554
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1.5
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=24641536000
RATE=24998
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Can you post the AVS file so I can see if it looks correct?
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This?
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.46.07 (beta)
DirectshowSource("R:\IMPORTS\SURFING3D\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=23.976, framecount=144240, audio=false)
Spline16Resize(3840,1080)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)
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#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.46.07 (beta)
DirectshowSource("R:\IMPORTS\SURFING3D\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=23.976, framecount=144240, audio=false)
Spline16Resize(3840,1080)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)
Yeah, and it looks right. I hope I haven't done something to screw up the FRIMEncode command line.
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Yeah, and it looks right. I hope I haven't done something to screw up the FRIMEncode command line.
Unfortunately, I didn't keep the last two versions to compare :S

I'm patient. As I said, my display is a week or more out. I've been buying the combo packs, and playing around ahead of time.
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#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.46.07 (beta)
DirectshowSource("R:\IMPORTS\SURFING3D\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=23.976, framecount=144240, audio=false)
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ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)
Ahhh... I think I may know what it is.

1. Click on the start button and select FFDSHOW from "All Programs"
2. Select VFW configuration.
3. On the Decoder tab, go down to "Raw Video", and select "All Supported".

Let me know if that works -- and I'll update to a new version that does this automatically at encode time.
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Ahhh... I think I may know what it is.

1. Click on the start button and select FFDSHOW from "All Programs"
2. Select VFW configuration.
3. On the Decoder tab, go down to "Raw Video", and select "All Supported".

Let me know if that works -- and I'll update to a new version that does this automatically at encode time.
Appears to be running now Thanks!

@ ~8hrs to go :S
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Appears to be running now Thanks!

@ ~8hrs to go :S
Great to see its working.

Yeah, MVC encoding is anything but fast. But I notice on my system that my processor time is nowhere near 100%. I need to find a way to multiprocess when using FRIMEncode. On my system I think I could probably double the speed.
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Great to see its working.

Yeah, MVC encoding is anything but fast. But I notice on my system that my processor time is nowhere near 100%. I need to find a way to multiprocess when using FRIMEncode. On my system I think I could probably double the speed.
Yeah, mine fluctuates around 60%. Pretty soon, and my computer will run off a self sustained generator. And wattage be damned

No, it's closer to 50%.
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i think it is a bug when bd-rebuilder isnīt able to rebuild a movie only source from "odd thomas" (man, other bdīs work fine), to dvd5 size with 1440x1080 resolution in one step! the result was a very uggly videoquality with blocks out of order! but i will stop writing posts now. i have helped myself and i have what i wanted! the trick to rebuild the original to bd-25 size seems to work.
only two sentences! it plays back on my blu-ray player with a very good image! good job, jdoobs!

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