Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[hirahi]

When using MPC-BE 1.7.0.17 and setting the renderer to MPC Video Renderer 0.8.0.2224 or later, noise occurs on the screen and the image
is not displayed properly.

There is no problem with MPC-HC 2.2.1.

OS:Windows11 home
CPU core i5 12400
GPU Intel UHD Graphics 730
Momory DDR4 3200 32GB

[Aleksoid1978]

Originally Posted by hirahi

When using MPC-BE 1.7.0.17 and setting the renderer to MPC Video Renderer 0.8.0.2224 or later, noise occurs on the screen and the image
is not displayed properly.

There is no problem with MPC-HC 2.2.1.

So - where is screenshots ?
What's video - any of some specifics ?
Show filters list.

[hirahi]

screenshot is below.
http://hirahi.cloudfree.jp/archive/mpc_be.png

video is an MPEG2 VOB file

MPC-BE standard filters are used.

[Aleksoid1978]

Originally Posted by hirahi

screenshot is below.
http://hirahi.cloudfree.jp/archive/mpc_be.png

video is an MPEG2 VOB file

MPC-BE standard filters are used.

Fixed in MPC-BE video decoder.

P.S. Fixed also in MPC VR.

[hirahi]

Originally Posted by Aleksoid1978

Fixed in MPC-BE video decoder.

P.S. Fixed also in MPC VR.

MPC-BE 1.7.0.19+MPC Video Renderer 0.8.0.2227
I confirmed that the video was displayed correctly.

[wyup]

Sorry if this has been answered before, but I've always been curious as to what advantage comes from using external LavFilters over recent MPC-BE internal filters (source, video, audio), specially MPC Video Decoder 1.7.0.

In the latter settings, is there any advantage on using D3D12cb over default 'D3D11, DXVA2'? I tried the former on Intel graphics and the green line graph on 'Ctrl + J' mas more jagged.

[v0lt]

Originally Posted by wyup

In the latter settings, is there any advantage on using D3D12cb over default 'D3D11, DXVA2'?

There are no advantages other than special use. Copyback mode will always be slower than native modes.

[Sunspark]

@wyup The LAV filter splitter is much better because it allows for more control of subtitles, audio, etc. if you've taken the time to dial in some settings, which I have. In the BE player, I use it as an external filter.. but for decoders in BE, I use the BE video and audio decoders.

Copy-back still has a use-case, depending on the renderer, e.g. inverse-telecining of a DVD, but this doesn't really apply to most people anymore.

[Aleksoid1978]

What LAV Splitter better for subtitles, audio ?

[huhn]

automatic stream selection. AFAIK there is nothing like that in mpc-be.

the option to disable hardware decoding niece but very good reasons to do so.

there is also the "issue" with hardware decoding and madVR.
where the d3d11 -> d3d9 interop cost more then a copyback operation...
with a dvd you are usually better of using software decode.

[Aleksoid1978]

Originally Posted by huhn

automatic stream selection.

What you mean?
See this - https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/MPC-...ack-preference ?

[Grimsdyke]

I have a few mp4 files that makes MPC-BE + internal filters crash but no problems with LAV splitters. So LAV seem to be more "tolerant" on problematic video files.

[Klaus1189]

Upload a sample for devs. Maybe worth to take a look at such files.

[v0lt]

Originally Posted by Grimsdyke

I have a few mp4 files that makes MPC-BE + internal filters crash but no problems with LAV splitters. So LAV seem to be more "tolerant" on problematic video files.

Name the version MPC-BE to be more specific. Please provide your problematic samples or take them from here.

We can also remember that recent releases of LAV Filters had problems.

added:
There are reports that MPC-BE 1.7.0.20 has problems with some files after updating FFmpeg. We haven't reproduced the problem yet.

added:
Problem with VP9 fixed in MPC-BE 1.7.0.22.

[huhn]

Originally Posted by Aleksoid1978

What you mean?
See this - https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/MPC-...ack-preference ?

cool where?

Originally Posted by v0lt

Name the version MPC-BE to be more specific. Please provide your problematic samples or take them from here.

We can also remember that recent releases of LAV Filters had problems.

added:
There are reports that MPC-BE 1.7.0.20 has problems with some files after updating FFmpeg. We haven't reproduced the problem yet.

well yes ffmpeg had problem with "hevc".
that's why lav had issues and if you use the same version lavfilter used at the time you should have the same issue.

[Celio1080p]

Hello everyone.
Guys, mpc-be is only seeing 4 audio files in a video that i have here.
Fallout series.
But, if i open the video with mkvtoolnix, i can see 32 audio files.

There's anyway to force MPC-BE to show them all ?

I tried the Windows Media Player 2022 in Windows 11 Pro, my main PC, and it showed all audio files.
But i prefer MPC-BE, far superior.
Sorry my english.

[Sunspark]

One way to fix is in the settings for external filters to add lav splitter and lav splitter source. Mark both as prefer and checked.

In the settings for internal filters, uncheck everything on the source filters tab.

[Aleksoid1978]

Originally Posted by Celio1080p

Hello everyone.
Guys, mpc-be is only seeing 4 audio files in a video that i have here.
Fallout series.
But, if i open the video with mkvtoolnix, i can see 32 audio files.

There's anyway to force MPC-BE to show them all ?

I tried the Windows Media Player 2022 in Windows 11 Pro, my main PC, and it showed all audio files.
But i prefer MPC-BE, far superior.
Sorry my english.

Upload file or give torrent link.

[Celio1080p]

Originally Posted by Aleksoid1978

Upload file or give torrent link.

https://gofile.io/d/3VrPlm

There. Download to check it. I don't know why MPC-BE can't see the audio files. But Windows Media Player 2022 can. MediaInfo can.
MkvToolNix can.

[Aleksoid1978]

Originally Posted by Celio1080p

https://gofile.io/d/3VrPlm

There. Download to check it. I don't know why MPC-BE can't see the audio files. But Windows Media Player 2022 can. MediaInfo can.
MkvToolNix can.

It's simple - most of the audio tracks and subtitles are simply turned off, you can check in MKVToolnix - "Track enabled" flag, it is in the "No" state.
LAV Splitter doesn't show them either.