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Old 24th June 2009, 11:27   #3481  |  Link
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I've been doing a lot of testing with Frost/Nixon the last few days. It's a good test for secondary (PiP) video since it has two secondary video tracks.

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Has anyone found a way to successfully MUX secondary audio tracks? I've been pulling my hair out... I may have to resort to muxing myself instead of using a tool. Ugghh
tsmuxer can do it through the command line....im sure it was mentioned somewhere that there is a switch to signify a track is a secondary pip style track...
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Old 24th June 2009, 12:32   #3482  |  Link
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tsmuxer can do it through the command line....im sure it was mentioned somewhere that there is a switch to signify a track is a secondary pip style track...
yes there is an option that can be added to the meta file but currently its only supported for video streams not audio.

plus I don't think tsmuxer can demux DTS Express which is pretty common for secondary audio.
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Old 24th June 2009, 17:07   #3483  |  Link
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yes there is an option that can be added to the meta file but currently its only supported for video streams not audio.

plus I don't think tsmuxer can demux DTS Express which is pretty common for secondary audio.
That's exactly where I am. It works for the video, but not the audio. I can use EAC3TO to demux them (since TSMUXER can't) -- but then TSMUXER doesn't recognize them for remuxing and I'm right back where I started.
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Old 24th June 2009, 17:57   #3484  |  Link
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roman added the option as a workaround for cropped videos and the subpath includes only the video stream. He is not visiting the forum for some time, but may be an email will bring him back
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Old 24th June 2009, 19:23   #3485  |  Link
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Star Trek BD

Hi Jdobbs

bug report : still no luck with the star trek bd's

The problem seems to reside in a m2ts file that follows the main movie but is nearly empty and is only a few seconds.
TSmuxer says "some streams not recognized"
if i demux the video the vidstream is not playable by any player.

is it an option to exclude these nearly empty m2ts from encoding?

maybe when reading the mpls files u programmaticly ignore the playitems shorter then x seconds ?

I have seen this in many movies

hope i have been of some help

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Old 24th June 2009, 19:32   #3486  |  Link
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Hi Jdobbs

bug report : still no luck with the star trek bd's

The problem seems to reside in a m2ts file that follows the main movie but is nearly empty and is only a few seconds.
TSmuxer says "some streams not recognized"
if i demux the video the vidstream is not playable by any player.

is it an option to exclude these nearly empty m2ts from encoding?

maybe when reading the mpls files u programmaticly ignore the playitems shorter then x seconds ?

I have seen this in many movies

hope i have been of some help

chearz
Problems can still occur by not encoding these files the reason that they still appear would signal that they are part of another playlist that needs encoding and therefore may need to be encoded to match.

Since most discs now use AVC for pretty much all the content maybe the odd bit of MPEG2 the detection of these linked files could be more intelligent but this would most likely cause alot of bugs and you also stand the risk to run into audio mismatches too
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Old 24th June 2009, 19:48   #3487  |  Link
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Using latest version on "The Matrix", BD-Rebuilder fails with the error:

[21:43:13] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: MATRIX1
- Input BD size: 36.10 GB
- Approximate total content: [06:10:23.968]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[21:43:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:43:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[21:43:24] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I tried to demux the file 00019.m2ts myself, and indeed tsmuxer fails with the message:

Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: C:\Matrix\BDMV\STREAM\00019.m2ts

I managed to get the files extracted (had to demux video seperately and then the audio seperately, not together in one go) using tsmuxer. How do I trick BD-RB to think it succeeded so when I resume it will go on and encode it?
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Old 24th June 2009, 20:02   #3488  |  Link
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Using latest version on "The Matrix", BD-Rebuilder fails with the error:

[21:43:13] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: MATRIX1
- Input BD size: 36.10 GB
- Approximate total content: [06:10:23.968]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[21:43:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:43:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[21:43:24] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I tried to demux the file 00019.m2ts myself, and indeed tsmuxer fails with the message:

Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: C:\Matrix\BDMV\STREAM\00019.m2ts

I managed to get the files extracted (had to demux video seperately and then the audio seperately, not together in one go) using tsmuxer. How do I trick BD-RB to think it succeeded so when I resume it will go on and encode it?
Open the BDREBUILDER.INF file its stored in the same place as your working path where the WORKFILES directory is.

You will find a line that says ENCODE_STEP=(step_number)

Just change this number up one I think you are on step 0 so change it to a 1 save and resume

IIRC steps are (Correct me if im wrong but this is from the top of my head)

0 = Demux
1 = 1st Pass
2 = 2nd Pass
3 = Audio Encoding
4 = Muliplexing

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Old 24th June 2009, 21:39   #3489  |  Link
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I don't think so, but I'll go back and look at it. Try it without the INTERLACED setting and see if it acts differently. Have you done that specific disc successfully with an older version? There's all kinds of potential for oddness with interlace reencoding (thus the reason I put it off so long), especially with BFF or hybrid sources.
Hi there, as requested tried without the hidden interlaced option. Results are the same in terms of playability (no menu overlay appears and therefore unplayable). The opening first play video is de-interlaced correctly though...
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Old 24th June 2009, 23:18   #3490  |  Link
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Using latest version on "The Matrix", BD-Rebuilder fails with the error:

[21:43:13] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: MATRIX1
- Input BD size: 36.10 GB
- Approximate total content: [06:10:23.968]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[21:43:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:43:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[21:43:24] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I tried to demux the file 00019.m2ts myself, and indeed tsmuxer fails with the message:

Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: C:\Matrix\BDMV\STREAM\00019.m2ts

I managed to get the files extracted (had to demux video seperately and then the audio seperately, not together in one go) using tsmuxer. How do I trick BD-RB to think it succeeded so when I resume it will go on and encode it?
Go into the INF and add 1 to ENCODE_STEP. If it isn't there, add it and set it to 1.

The INF parameter COMPLETED=n tell BD-RB which files have been completed (from the streams list). ENCODE_STEP=n tells it which step of a single stream has been completed (extract audio=1, pass1=2, pass2=3, reencode audio=4)
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Old 25th June 2009, 02:07   #3491  |  Link
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I've been doing a lot of testing with Frost/Nixon the last few days. It's a good test for secondary (PiP) video since it has two secondary video tracks.

@Anyone

Has anyone found a way to successfully MUX secondary audio tracks? I've been pulling my hair out... I may have to resort to muxing myself instead of using a tool. Ugghh
Are you seeing the same missing chapters issue? I'm not sure if it is related to PiP, it could be something else. How does BD-RB extract the chapters?
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Old 25th June 2009, 02:15   #3492  |  Link
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Are you seeing the same missing chapters issue? I'm not sure if it is related to PiP, it could be something else. How does BD-RB extract the chapters?
I've been doing full-disc backups, so I wouldn't see that. I'll run a movie-only test.

The chapters are defined in the MPLS, and BD-RB pulls them from it.
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Old 25th June 2009, 03:34   #3493  |  Link
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No problem with chapters for me with movie only or full backup. BD-RB has been correctly placing all chapters the same as original.
I have had absolutely no problems with the last 4 - 5 backups, both movie only BD-5 and full backup to BD-25. Excellent work jdobbs.
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Old 25th June 2009, 07:14   #3494  |  Link
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Look at the LASTCMD.TXT file and see if the bitrate is set to some very low value (it may be related to post #3459). If so, change it and then cut/paste it into a CMD window to run. If it completes, then just increment the COMPLETED=x parameter in BDREBUILDER.INF and resume the encode.
""C:\Users\Category 5\Desktop\bd rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS" --bitrate 25000 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 30000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 2 --me hex --bframes 3 --8x8dct --direct auto --weightb --trellis 0 --analyse none --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL
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I tried incrementing the Completed=x number but it fails on each of the remaining files. they are all ver small files (under 300KB each) and there are 9

Can I just copy them into the workfiles directory manually, and rename them mkv, and then change to completed=65? Obviously there is no need to recode such small files and then I can get on with rebuilding the BD structure

This is what was listed in the last command file

"C:\Users\Category 5\Desktop\bd rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS" --bitrate 25000 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 30000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 2 --me hex --bframes 3 --8x8dct --direct auto --weightb --trellis 0 --analyse none --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL
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""C:\Users\Category 5\Desktop\bd rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS" --bitrate 25000 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 30000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 2 --me hex --bframes 3 --8x8dct --direct auto --weightb --trellis 0 --analyse none --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL
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I tried incrementing the Completed=x number but it fails on each of the remaining files. they are all ver small files (under 300KB each) and there are 9

Can I just copy them into the workfiles directory manually, and rename them mkv, and then change to completed=65? Obviously there is no need to recode such small files and then I can get on with rebuilding the BD structure

This is what was listed in the last command file

"C:\Users\Category 5\Desktop\bd rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS" --bitrate 25000 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 30000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 2 --me hex --bframes 3 --8x8dct --direct auto --weightb --trellis 0 --analyse none --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL
You just need to increment past them and copy the original m2ts files and the associate playback files to the working directory. With the flag incremented it assumes that the process has been complete and everything remuxed, so you wouldn't have the mkv anymore.
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Old 25th June 2009, 16:45   #3496  |  Link
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Problems can still occur by not encoding these files the reason that they still appear would signal that they are part of another playlist that needs encoding and therefore may need to be encoded to match.

Since most discs now use AVC for pretty much all the content maybe the odd bit of MPEG2 the detection of these linked files could be more intelligent but this would most likely cause alot of bugs and you also stand the risk to run into audio mismatches too
@tekmobile

i have replaced the m2ts file with een selfencoded one of 2 sec now BD-RB works fine.
can anyone explain why so many titles have a trailing m2ts file which is nearly empty.
it is not menu and not popup

I thought that bluray was not restricted to one kind of codec
and what div does one file of 2 sec make to the whole playlist ? The playlist determines what to play in that order.

iam sorry but i don`t agree with your statement, maybe you can elaborate?

chearzz
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Old 25th June 2009, 17:04   #3497  |  Link
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i possibly found a new way to decode VC1-Interlaced

The Decoder that comes with "Sonic Scenarist Blu-ray Edition 4.3" at first seemmed to work(output picture was good):


x264 tried to use it but there was a mistake :-(

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Old 25th June 2009, 18:24   #3498  |  Link
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@tekmobile

i have replaced the m2ts file with een selfencoded one of 2 sec now BD-RB works fine.
can anyone explain why so many titles have a trailing m2ts file which is nearly empty.
it is not menu and not popup

I thought that bluray was not restricted to one kind of codec
and what div does one file of 2 sec make to the whole playlist ? The playlist determines what to play in that order.

iam sorry but i don`t agree with your statement, maybe you can elaborate?

chearzz
the main issue is that the playlist tells the player the type of video content avc/vc1 etc and every video file in the playlist must be the same codec some players may just ignore the mismatch others may just stop/crash etc

just copying the file will work correctly providing the original video was avc as they will still match but if the original is say vc1 after encoding it will be avc and the playlist will tell the player the codec is avc but the copied file will still be vc1 and not match therefore requires reencoding to avc.

hope that makes sence but im using my phone to reply
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Old 25th June 2009, 19:11   #3499  |  Link
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You just need to increment past them and copy the original m2ts files and the associate playback files to the working directory. With the flag incremented it assumes that the process has been complete and everything remuxed, so you wouldn't have the mkv anymore.
So the m2ts files, but what other files need to get copied over? the only ones that look important to me are the mpls files, but there are like 700 of those in the structure and only 392 of the m2ts.

EDIT - I added the M2Ts and incremented past in order to try rebuilding but got the message

"One or more reencoded files are missing (oo384.clpi)

EDIT2 - Added clpi files found in original directory and get "Failure to multiplex"

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Old 25th June 2009, 22:56   #3500  |  Link
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I probably shouldn't report this yet till I try it with the latest version. But did a backup of Samurai 7 anime BD1 and the first encode i did with both TrueHD audio tracks came up over sized by about 4.5GB (BD25 Encode) then tried it a second time with only the english audio and it was about 4% over sized at 1.5GB.

Used BD-RB 22.02 but will try again tonight with the latest version see if I get the same resaults. If there is some specific info needed from BD-RB or someone is curious let me know.

I just used the standard settings. x264 mode, BD25, Slowest speed.

Great app btw, this is the only disk i've had a problem with trying to backup.

Thanks for the hard work JDobbs!
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