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[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Jonaldinho

I have a 1080p video and because I live in the UK it's 25fps, it's not a movie it's a video from a videographer who gave me the HD file and I would like it to be playable on a blu-ray device. I know for blu-ray compliancy at 25fps it needs to be interlaced, I typed in the hidden option DEINTERLACER_TYPE=4 for fake interlaced, it's currently encoding the 2nd pass but the LASTCMD doesn't have --fake-interlaced in the script so I was wondering will it still be fake interlaced? Do I need to enable "use DEINTERLACER on interlaced sources" for fake interlaced to work? Thanks

Yes, you need to enable it. The deinterlacer type only applys when "Use Deinterlacer" is selected.

[Jonaldinho]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Yes, you need to enable it. The deinterlacer type only applys when "Use Deinterlacer" is selected.

OK thanks. I enabled it to deinterlace in the setup, it's on the 2nd pass now and the LASTCMD script still doesn't have fake-interlaced in the script. Is this right?

"O:\BD Rebuilder 38.03\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "L:\BACK UP MEDIA\BLU-RAY\VIDEO\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS"
--preset slower --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --qpmin=0 
--bitrate 29869 --level 4.1 --qpfile "L:\BACK UP MEDIA\BLU-RAY\VIDEO\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP" 
--sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 30000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 
--ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input 
--stats "L:\BACK UP MEDIA\BLU-RAY\VIDEO\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264.stats" 
--pass 2 --output "L:\BACK UP MEDIA\BLU-RAY\VIDEO\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"

[jdobbs]

You're right. I just looked at the code. It isn't adding the "--fake-interlaced" because the source is 1080p. Since 1080p/25 isn't a legal BD source, BD-RB doesn't have a condition for that occurance. I'll have to add it just to cover all bases (and for 1080p/29.97 as well). Right now that command line will create output that is out-of-standard.

In the meantime, you can add this to your INI file:

TWEAK_PASS_ONE=--fake-interlaced
TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--fake-interlaced

Don't forget to remove the lines after your encode is complete, as it will affect all encodes until you do.

[Jonaldinho]

I'm glad i've raised awareness to help eliminate a problem. I've added the tweaked x264 command and it has successfully been added to the LASTCMD script. Thanks a lot.

[europeman]

Does Rebuilder support any of these similar technologies to speak up process

[jdobbs]

No. It does not use any "special features" or dependencies that requires specific hardware. I do that purposely.

[Capsbackup]

I have found a strange occurance doing a full movie backup to BD9 of the movie I AM Number Four. The deleted scenes are listed as 18:58 on the original disc. On the BD-RBV03803 backup, the same deleted scenes are listed as 30:39.
These scenes are 1080P, 23.976fps. There are numerous duplicate .m2ts files within the same playlist 00329.mpls.
Could this be the problem, that BD-RB is not making the necessary reference corrections?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Capsbackup

I have found a strange occurance doing a full movie backup to BD9 of the movie I AM Number Four. The deleted scenes are listed as 18:58 on the original disc. On the BD-RBV03803 backup, the same deleted scenes are listed as 30:39.
These scenes are 1080P, 23.976fps. There are numerous duplicate .m2ts files within the same playlist 00329.mpls.
Could this be the problem, that BD-RB is not making the necessary reference corrections?

Don't know. I'll try that one and see what happens.

Do they appear to play correctly?

[Capsbackup]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Don't know. I'll try that one and see what happens.

Do they appear to play correctly?

They play correctly until the last deleted scene, where the video freezes on the screen at the last 5 seconds or so, while the audio continues to completion.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Capsbackup

They play correctly until the last deleted scene, where the video freezes on the screen at the last 5 seconds or so, while the audio continues to completion.

Weird. If the audio is that long (full time), it makes you wonder why the original's time was shorter? The data was there, but didn't show in the original time... easter eggs, maybe?

[Capsbackup]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Weird. If the audio is that long (full time), it makes you wonder why the original's time was shorter? The data was there, but didn't show in the original time... easter eggs, maybe?

I'm pretty sure there is no easter eggs. My suspicion is this multiple, duplicate m2ts files within this playlist is the cause. I can't be certain, but this is the only thing I can see as to this backup having a different time than the original.

By the way, this was a pretty good movie too.

[Ch3vr0n]

Just wanted to let ya know jdobbs, i ran a couple more tests and was able to backup HP5 with avs 2.58

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Ch3vr0n

Just wanted to let ya know jdobbs, i ran a couple more tests and was able to backup HP5 with avs 2.58

Good to know, I sure wouldn't have thought AVISYNTH 2.57 could be the problem. But as long as its working...

Thanks.

[bassnut]

I am just ripping I Am Number Four now and will let BD Rebuilder run though there is no way I will be able to stay up for another 4 hours tonigh will let you know what happens in the early am. Anything s[eciffic you want to know or for me too look for?

[Ch3vr0n]

I think it crashed because vid_00033 and vid_00002 were generating the message "encoding secondairy ..." however when lookin on the expanded entry in the filetree, there is no secondairy video stream present nor a secondairy audio stream. Those were also the only 2 streams in the tree that were listed with ** next to the fps rate.

vid_00033 VC-1, 1080i, 29.97fps** 587.15MB
vid_00002 VC-1, 1080i, 29.97fps** 2.239,99MB

I think since there was no second stream in those stream, AVS crashed. But that only a guess for me. I'm not that experienced as you are

[Capsbackup]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Weird. If the audio is that long (full time), it makes you wonder why the original's time was shorter? The data was there, but didn't show in the original time... easter eggs, maybe?

To try and make better sense of what is going on for this movie, here is some additional info from the original Blu-ray:

1) 00329.mpls, 0:18:59
[514+503+502+503+505+504+505+507+506+507+509+508+509+511+510+511+512+513+512].m2ts
- Chapters, 13 chapters
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- AC3, English, stereo, 48kHz

The times listed for the original playlist 00329.mpls per BDInfo:

00514.m2ts = :33
00503.m2ts = :06
00502.m2ts = :58
00503.m2ts = 1:21
00505.m2ts = :06
00504.m2ts = 1:14
00505.m2ts = 3:06
00507.m2ts = :06
00506.m2ts = :51
00507.m2ts = :30
00509.m2ts = :06
00508.m2ts = 1:07
00509.m2ts = 1:20
00511.m2ts = :06
00510.m2ts = 1:02
00511.m2ts = 1:20
00512.m2ts = :07
00513.m2ts = :55
00512.m2ts = 3:57

The BD-RB reencoded playlist for 00329.mpls:

00514.m2ts = :33
00503.m2ts = 1:28
00502.m2ts = :58
00503.m2ts = 1:21
00505.m2ts = 3:14
00504.m2ts = 1:15
00505.m2ts = 3:06
00507.m2ts = :37
00506.m2ts = :51
00507.m2ts = :30
00509.m2ts = 1:27
00508.m2ts = 1:07
00509.m2ts = 1:20
00511.m2ts = 1:26
00510.m2ts = 1:02
00511.m2ts = 1:20
00512.m2ts = 4:04
00513.m2ts = :55
00512.m2ts = 3:57

After doing the math, reducing the times of the six duplicate files above is the difference. Now why these duplicate files and why BD-RB treats them the way it does, not matching the original is the question!

[thegame]

Sorry if this has been answered before but, does BD-RB work with 3D Blu-ray movies? I have decided to make the jump to 3D and have all the gear coming and was wondering this.

Thanks

[Capsbackup]

Originally Posted by thegame

Sorry if this has been answered before but, does BD-RB work with 3D Blu-ray movies? I have decided to make the jump to 3D and have all the gear coming and was wondering this.

Thanks

No it does not.

[Ch3vr0n]

There currenly is only 1 way of backing up 3D blu-rays, and thats a 1:1 backup (or covert to a side-by-side portable file afaik with DVDCrap, buts thats not a real backup. Its a conversion)

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by thegame

Sorry if this has been answered before but, does BD-RB work with 3D Blu-ray movies? I have decided to make the jump to 3D and have all the gear coming and was wondering this.

Thanks

Unfortunately the real stumbling block for 3D backups right now is a method for writing them. On a 3D disc there are blocks that are referenced by more than one file. Right now there is no popular burning software (that I know of) that would support that. Even if it did, a calling program would have to give a lot of information to the software to tell it which parts of which files are to be shared.

The only current way to get around that is to have the blocks duplicated -- which would be exceptionally inefficient.