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Old 31st July 2009, 20:33   #4261  |  Link
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But I think that this would only work if you are doing the movie only - I may be wrong. You can happily handle the discs using MakeMKV which will extract all of the tracks to mkv to process as you like but it was really the ability to make a blu-ray copy of the disc in entirety that is problemetic without switching codecs.
I still haven't got a clue why you're going to SD as the logic is that you could re-encode to a dvd-5 HD version.
Well the reason for the SD encode is I do not have a Blu-ray player in every room. I want a copy for the bedroom that only has a dvd player and SD tv.

What I was trying to get at was that the VC-1 track was a problem decodoing from the m2ts. That once I demuxed it (which BD Rebuilder does now already) and output that as an mkv, that I was able to decode it with directshow just like any other video codec would be done in BD Rebuilder. My whole point in bringing this up is that their might be something to it. That its possible once the video track is demuxed into an mvk that it can be decoded for re-encoded into a BD-9 or BD-25. What I was trying to point out, was how it was said that the problem with the interlaced VC-1 was getting a reliable decoded. That I had found that if I extract the video out into an mvk that an interlaced VC-1 that was causing troulble, stops causing trouble and works fine.
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Old 31st July 2009, 21:15   #4262  |  Link
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But it isn't just a warning. It is telling you that with the audio/sub selections you have made there is no room for the video...

I think you are saying that you are getting this on small files only. If so, I would suggest you select "Quicker Encode for Extras" -- as it uses a CRF value to encode and the smaller encodes aren't tied to the required size. It is adjusted with the main movie is encoded.
I don't really want to use quick encode as I want the best quality possible. What I'm saying is that I've never had an instance where the files haven't fitted but I have to manually hit 'yes' ten or so times. Therefore I can't just leave the encode to proceed - that also brings up the question of batching as it'd be great to queue them as a typical disc takes 4 hours. All I would like is the option to 'continue with warnings'.
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Old 31st July 2009, 21:22   #4263  |  Link
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Well the reason for the SD encode is I do not have a Blu-ray player in every room. I want a copy for the bedroom that only has a dvd player and SD tv.

What I was trying to get at was that the VC-1 track was a problem decodoing from the m2ts. That once I demuxed it (which BD Rebuilder does now already) and output that as an mkv, that I was able to decode it with directshow just like any other video codec would be done in BD Rebuilder. My whole point in bringing this up is that their might be something to it. That its possible once the video track is demuxed into an mvk that it can be decoded for re-encoded into a BD-9 or BD-25. What I was trying to point out, was how it was said that the problem with the interlaced VC-1 was getting a reliable decoded. That I had found that if I extract the video out into an mvk that an interlaced VC-1 that was causing troulble, stops causing trouble and works fine.
Well it's probably not the wrapper so it would be worth trying using tsmuxer to output a new m2ts file and then put it back into the blu-ray structure and see what happens, or convert to mkv and then back again. It seem strange as I don't think that x264 checks the file before attempting the encode as it usually goes wrong sometime during the encode.
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Old 31st July 2009, 21:55   #4264  |  Link
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Well it's probably not the wrapper so it would be worth trying using tsmuxer to output a new m2ts file and then put it back into the blu-ray structure and see what happens, or convert to mkv and then back again. It seem strange as I don't think that x264 checks the file before attempting the encode as it usually goes wrong sometime during the encode.
Yeah I have no idea what could be doing it. I just thought bringing up what I had found might help out some. To be honest I dont see how doing it into an mvk over its original m2ts actually makes it so it can be decoded, just that it does. Just another one of those weird things with interlaced VC-1 I guess.

I just tested and muxed the mvk into a blu-ray m2ts. It did the same thing as it did in the original m2ts. Not sure why its doing that, working as an mvk but not as an m2ts.

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Old 31st July 2009, 22:34   #4265  |  Link
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btw guys had problems ripping madagascar 2 on 25.04, had problems with meta files and that stuff, anyway today i did it wit 25.01 and worked perfect! i think ill stick to 25.01 at least for now
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Old 31st July 2009, 22:36   #4266  |  Link
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I found something interesting I would like to share. I was trying to make an SD back up of 'Dr Who Planet of the Dead'. All normal ways for decoding would cause the encoder to crash after a few seconds. I found that if I take the m2ts and extract the video and output it as mvk that I can then decode and encode that mkv fine.
Thanks for the tip. This is an excellent piece of information. I just tried the same thing and it worked on a title that I haven't been able to encode since I first started this program. I may have to work on it a little --- but it looks like this may turn out to be the solution I've been looking for.


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btw guys had problems ripping madagascar 2 on 25.04, had problems with meta files and that stuff, anyway today i did it wit 25.01 and worked perfect! i think ill stick to 25.01 at least for now
That's exactly what I DON'T want people to do. Which is the reason that version will soon timeout.

But thanks for the report. At least now I can see what the differences are.

Can you post the contents of the .META file from 25.01 that worked and the one from 25.04 that didn't?
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Old 31st July 2009, 22:58   #4268  |  Link
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I found something interesting I would like to share. I was trying to make an SD back up of 'Dr Who Planet of the Dead'. All normal ways for decoding would cause the encoder to crash after a few seconds. I found that if I take the m2ts and extract the video and output it as mvk that I can then decode and encode that mkv fine.
Can you tell me what software you are using to convert to MKV? I tried it with MakeMKV and it worked -- but I want to use something that is clearly freeware or GNU and doesn't timeout.
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Old 31st July 2009, 22:59   #4269  |  Link
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Thanks for the tip. This is an excellent piece of information. I just tried the same thing and it worked on a title that I haven't been able to encode since I first started this program. I may have to work on it a little --- but it looks like this may turn out to be the solution I've been looking for.


wow your very welcome. I am glad I could help. I really enjoy this program, and have enjoyed DVD Rebuilder for years.

While I have you I noticed one other thing. When encoding any 480 thats 4:3 when its played back on a PS3 its stretched to 16:9. I found that if I copy the lastcmd and change the SAR from 8:9 to 10:11. That the video will then play the file back as 4:3 on the PS3 and not be stretched to 16:9.
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Old 31st July 2009, 23:02   #4270  |  Link
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Can you tell me what software you are using to convert to MKV? I tried it with MakeMKV and it worked -- but I want to use something that is clearly freeware or GNU and doesn't timeout.
the latest version of eac3to. mvkinfo shows Muxing application: Haali DirectShow Matroska Muxer 1.9.42.1

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Old 31st July 2009, 23:23   #4271  |  Link
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That's exactly what I DON'T want people to do. Which is the reason that version will soon timeout.

But thanks for the report. At least now I can see what the differences are.

Can you post the contents of the .META file from 25.01 that worked and the one from 25.04 that didn't?
ill redoit again! cause i formatted that hard drive today, i dont know why but i have the sensation on this lastest beta that i can see more blockiness even with threllis algorithm and high quality settings!, this weekeng ill test some discs and will let you know!

ill do the bourne trilogy
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Old 31st July 2009, 23:29   #4272  |  Link
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Can I just add something into the mix. I have just found that my vc-1 tweak is no longer working on Vista 64 - regardless of the setting in ffdshow the programme picks up x264. On the BBC titles I'm testing this caused the usual crash. It may be that I need to reinstall TMT2 etc. However, to see if it was anything to do with 25.04 I tried 24.02 to resume the job (I know about the issues with going back) and although x264 was picked up the same, the version isn't crashing (so far) with the stream (which is definately shown with two **).
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Old 1st August 2009, 00:21   #4273  |  Link
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All,

Thanks to some insight from apophis906, I'll be including MKVMERGE in the next release (hopefully this weekend) and the dreaded "no directshow filter for field-based interlacing" problem will be gone... no more blanking necessary. I just did some testing on previously "unreencodable" sources -- and they're working. No need for tweaks, no need for TMT2, just smooth sailing. This very definitely rocks!

@apophis906

Now, if I can only get that annoying PiP problem corrected...
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All,

Thanks to some insight from apophis906, I'll be including MKVMERGE in the next release (hopefully this weekend) and the dreaded "no directshow filter for field-based interlacing" problem will be gone... no more blanking necessary. I just did some testing on previously "unreencodable" sources -- and they're working. No need for tweaks, no need for TMT2, just smooth sailing. This very definitely rocks!

@apophis906

Now, if I can only get that annoying PiP problem corrected...
This is great news will you be now processing all video this way or just VC-1 1080i.
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I realize my Green Lantern BluRay doesnt need to be done. The point I was making was I ran it through the program and the program actually ran it didnt just sit there so I figured it was something to do with Watchmen. Thanks Though!
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This is great news will you be now processing all video this way or just VC-1 1080i.
It adds an additional unneeded step for other video, so only VC-1 field based interlaced (the ones with issues) will be converted.
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I realize my Green Lantern BluRay doesnt need to be done. The point I was making was I ran it through the program and the program actually ran it didnt just sit there so I figured it was something to do with Watchmen. Thanks Though!
I picked up Watchmen a couple of days ago but haven't had time to test it yet. I'll run it tonight.
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While I have you I noticed one other thing. When encoding any 480 thats 4:3 when its played back on a PS3 its stretched to 16:9. I found that if I copy the lastcmd and change the SAR from 8:9 to 10:11. That the video will then play the file back as 4:3 on the PS3 and not be stretched to 16:9.
Is 10:11 the correct setting? I thought that was for 704x480 sources and 8:9 was for 720x480... Does it always stretch or is this something on one particular disc?
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audio sync

i just did another movie to bd25 with 25.04 beta, Man On Fire and there is an audio sync problem. this is the 3rd movie ive done that has this audio problem, its fine at the beginning then like 15 minutes into it there is audio lag for like 2 seconds throughout the rest of the movie, i just use default settings on everything. I was wondering if there is anything i need to change for settings to prevent this from happening? i have done several movies that played flawlessly, just wanted to know if its the movie or am i doing something wrong with the bd rebuilder program?
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I picked up Watchmen a couple of days ago but haven't had time to test it yet. I'll run it tonight.
Watchman has two .mpls, 00101.mpls which is 3:08:01 long and includes the bonus features.
00100.mpls is 3:06:28 and is the movie only.
Just need to make sure you select the correct .mpls for the movie only, since BD-RB will default to the longer version, which is NOT the one to use for movie only.
I did not try a full backup of this disc, but the movie only BD-9 looked really good.
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