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Old 7th April 2008, 15:53   #1  |  Link
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Subrip competition?

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Is SubRip is the only software available for ripping subs from DVDs using OCR?
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Old 7th April 2008, 16:00   #2  |  Link
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Is SubRip is the only software available for ripping subs from DVDs using OCR?
No. Read the posts please.
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Old 7th April 2008, 16:02   #3  |  Link
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Is SubRip is the only software available for ripping subs from DVDs using OCR?
DVDSubEdit & SubResync (part of VobSub), although they don't measure up to SubRip in my book.
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Subrip is the easiest and most accurate of the ones I've used. I think subtitle workshop also supports ripping, although it's less accurate due to a mostly-static character file. I've also never been able to get vobsub to work.
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I think subtitle workshop also supports ripping, although it's less accurate due to a mostly-static character file. I've also never been able to get vobsub to work.
Subtitle Workshop can't rip the subs from DVDs. You can only work with subtitles you already have on your hard drive.
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Subtitle Workshop can't rip the subs from DVDs. You can only work with subtitles you already have on your hard drive.
Okay, I must've been thinking of subedit, then.

What is it about subrip that you don't like? I get much better results with that than with anythign else, (once I've got a char matrix file built, that is.)
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What is it about subrip that you don't like? I get much better results with that than with anythign else, (once I've got a char matrix file built, that is.)
I like SubRip, but I was thinking there might be software that has even more awesomeness that I hadn't heard about.

I do have one problem with SubRip though, but I guess it's a general problem for all software of this type. The problem occurs when the two two lines of one subpic are too close together and SubRip can't divide the letters up and instead asks me to write the whole subpic by hand. Sometimes this happens for just about every other subpic in a subtitle-stream and therefore I spend a whole bunch of time getting the sub done.

If anyone has a solution for this I would declare you King and be your loyal servant for ever and ever.
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There are ways within SubRip to sort-of "separate" the letters for better OCR, but I've never bothered to learn how to do it very well. When I have that problem and have to start typing in entire sentences, I switch to SubResynch. You have to make the IDX/SUB files first, but it seems to work better in regard to letters being too close together. For me, anyway.
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I do have one problem with SubRip though, but I guess it's a general problem for all software of this type. The problem occurs when the two two lines of one subpic are too close together and SubRip can't divide the letters up and instead asks me to write the whole subpic by hand. Sometimes this happens for just about every other subpic in a subtitle-stream and therefore I spend a whole bunch of time getting the sub done.
Options -> Advanced OCR setup. Try a lower value for the Space Width Setup. The default is 7, try 6, then 5 etc. till you get it right. But in the rare event that the subpics are really physically connected together, then this might not help either.
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Options -> Advanced OCR setup. Try a lower value for the Space Width Setup. The default is 7, try 6, then 5 etc. till you get it right. But in the rare event that the subpics are really physically connected together, then this might not help either.
Thanks, but its not the width of the characters but rather the height of them causing my troubles. For certain fonts used in subtitles I rip letters like "j" and "g" on the top line of a subpic touch the second line forcing me to write the whole subpic by hand.

I use the Width-setting when I get words stuck together or pulled apart though.
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In the same configuration dialog referred before by unskynnyboy, you can try tweaking the values in the upper left corner ("Line setup") ... try setting "Min. inter line Height" to 0 and/or incrementing the "Max. line height" one.

I'm not sure about the meaning of the first option though ("Min. line exploration height")
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I'm not sure about the meaning of the first option though ("Min. line exploration height")
Yeah, I do not understand it either. Does anyone know what does it mean? By the way, Subtitle Edit is able to rip DVD, VobSub and Blu-Ray subtitles. I tried with DVD ripping, and the results are not that great; it often framed two characters instead of one and it didn't recognize space so well. I tried to rip the same DVD subtitle using SubRip, and the results were perfect, without any mistake, and it asked me to enter the characters a lot less (I didn't use any characters matrix, just so you know). SubRip for life! Concerning hard subbed video files, I use ABBYY FineReader which gives me good results, though manual work is needed, of course. I haven't tried SubRip yet with that, but I will soon.
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Old 19th November 2012, 16:38   #13  |  Link
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There's also my own program SubExtractor: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=162633 http://subextractor.codeplex.com/
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I just checked it out and I must say it's fantastic! SubRip, soon will be your retirement time, well at least concerning DVD subtitles ripping.
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