BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Race Guy]

Originally Posted by Race Guy

This bug is called "The Case Of The Missing Menu Text". But I don't think it's really a bug!

Now I know how jdobbs feels! Just when you think you have it all figured out, you DON'T.

I try to "repair" my Elton & Dave, thinking that all I'd have to do is "rebuild" & "substitute" the complete menu video file. I open the original Elton with BD-RB, but there's NO subtitles shown! BDInfo shows "Interactive Graphic Streams", so they must be there. I then go to the STREAMS folder & open the menu video m2ts with tsM. That gives an "Unsupported Format" warning that says "Some Tracks Not Recognized.", you click OK and tsM shows only video & audio streams "available", NO SUBTITLES!

So, my uneducated guess is, when that menu video gets demuxed & recoded, the IGS gets "lost" ('cause it can't be found) & it doesn't make it to the rebuild.

The only "easy fix" I can see is to set the "don't recode" limit bigger than the menu vids. This one happens to be 550MB. BUT, you wont know if you have a problem until you've done the first rebuild......., unless jdobbs can see a workaround for the "hidden subs"!

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I just replaced the first, rebuilt video menu on Elton (there's 7 total) with the original .m2ts & the .clpi & now that menu functions which allows you to hit "Play" & start the disc! BUT, if you hit "song selections" on that menu, it kicks you to another menu video that doesn't have subs, so you'd be stuck there.

There you go! It's got nothing to do with LPCM, it's "missing IGS".

[Sn8kbordin]

Trying to back up Walk Hard in Movie Only mode to DL-DVD. I am getting this error:

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[14:44:47] BD Rebuilder v0.29.04 (beta)
  - Source:  WALK_HARD_DISC1_NA_P2
  - Input BD size: 33.31 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:00:19.628]
  - Target BD size: 8.10 GB
  - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[14:44:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [14:44:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
 - Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
 - Can't create output file I:\BD\4\WORKFILES\00000+00042+00002+00043+00004+00044+00006+00045+00008+00046+00010+00047+00012+00048+00014+00049+00016+00050+00018+00051+00020+00052+00022+00053+00024+00054+00026+00055+00028+00056+00030+00057+00032+00058+00034+00059+00036+00060+00038+00061+00040+00062.track_4352.ac3
[14:44:49] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I think the file name of that AC3 file is too long.

Q: What does Verbose status reporting do?

[GaPony]

WTF!!!

I did this movie (Walk Hard) recently to BD9 (DL DVD) with no problem. I used the Movie Only mode.

Verbose reporting gives a line by line activity report in the log. I find it very useful in letting me know whats going on.

[Sn8kbordin]

Originally Posted by GaPony

WTF!!!

I did this movie (Walk Hard) recently to BD9 (DL DVD) with no problem. I used the Movie Only mode.

Verbose reporting gives a line by line activity report in the log. I find it very useful in letting me know whats going on.

Thanks.
Did you do 90min or 2 hour extended version?

I'm trying to do 2 hour extended version.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by DK

I'm having problems with Tomb Raider 1 Region B



VID_00006.AVS.264 is not present, only:

- VID_00006.AVS
- VID_00006.AVS.MKV
- VID_00006.AVS.MKV.stats

The main movie is:
VID_00004.AVS.264 and this was created properly and completely together with the two sound streams.

Muxing video + audio streams woorked fine via tsmuxer, so the goal was achieved: a movie only backup but i have no idea why bd rebuilder got stuck with two different versions and slightly different settings:
1pass with version 0.28.03 and 2 passes with 0.29.04

Can you post the settings from the INI. The value of MKV_INTERMEDIATE determines whether .264 or .MKV is used. If you start, stop, change the setting, and resume it could cause this kind of issue.

[writersblock29]

@Race Guy

It's funny that you mention the sub-less menus... when I did my copy of Braveheart, it behaved the same. Since I'm using PowerDVD9 on my encoding system--and I'm accoustomed to stupid bugs in that program--I burned it anyway. Playing it back on my HTPC (which uses TotalMedia Theatre 3), the options show up and work just fine. In my case, the subs weren't missing... but I thought it was pretty strange hearing someone report that their menu buttons were gone.

In PowerDVD, it was only the subs that were gone. If I stabbed around with my arrow keys, I could get the movie to play, call up a setup menu (which, oddly enough, had the text for the options), or play the timeline feature. So the buttons themselves were there, hidden. And for TotalMedia to play it back flawlessly, the subs had to have been physically present on the project... I guess just not in the manner PowerDVD expected. The source disk works fine on either player, as does the rip (verified by using an external hard drive). Strange.

[chudm]

Originally Posted by writersblock29

@Race Guy

It's funny that you mention the sub-less menus... when I did my copy of Braveheart, it behaved the same. Since I'm using PowerDVD9 on my encoding system--and I'm accoustomed to stupid bugs in that program--I burned it anyway. Playing it back on my HTPC (which uses TotalMedia Theatre 3), the options show up and work just fine. In my case, the subs weren't missing... but I thought it was pretty strange hearing someone report that their menu buttons were gone.

In PowerDVD, it was only the subs that were gone. If I stabbed around with my arrow keys, I could get the movie to play, call up a setup menu (which, oddly enough, had the text for the options), or play the timeline feature. So the buttons themselves were there, hidden. And for TotalMedia to play it back flawlessly, the subs had to have been physically present on the project... I guess just not in the manner PowerDVD expected. The source disk works fine on either player, as does the rip (verified by using an external hard drive). Strange.

at least foo fighters and elton john bluray didnt worked on the ps3, no text on the menu, and cant select anything, on totalmedia theater 3 worked ok

[writersblock29]

@Chudm

Wow! So pretty much the same behavior I got out of PDVD9, with a PS3? That's something to raise an eyebrow at--I figured it was just another PDVD quirk. I wonder how set top boxes are faring.

[chudm]

Originally Posted by writersblock29

@Chudm

Wow! So pretty much the same behavior I got out of PDVD9, with a PS3? That's something to raise an eyebrow at--I figured it was just another PDVD quirk. I wonder how set top boxes are faring.

yeah man, in fact, the foo fighters bluray was the 1st backup i made! and burnt it 3 times, on bd-r and never worked! i thought i was doing something wrong, cause always had the same behaviour on the ps3 but was working ok on TMT3, so i give it a try to batman and worked perfect on the ps3! as all my movies! but those blurays (foo fighters and elthon john) only worked on TMT3 but were missing the text on the menu when were played on the ps3

[DK]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Can you post the settings from the INI. The value of MKV_INTERMEDIATE determines whether .264 or .MKV is used. If you start, stop, change the setting, and resume it could cause this kind of issue.

1.
i did NOT interrupt the process but tried to restart/resume it, when i saw it failed.

after realizing that resuming failed just like the prvious run i started from scratch and instead of using 1 pass (resulted in 1gb oversized main movie) i used normal two passes

2.
here is an INI file content i found refering to tomb raider and then there is the INF file:

Batchitem.INI

LARA_CROFT_1, Movie-Only, BD-9, High Quality
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
CRF_ENCODING=1
TARGET_SIZE=7910
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
ONEPASS_ENCODING=1
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\_BD\LARA CROFT 1\
WORKING_PATH=G:\DVD\TR1\

Lara_Croft_INF

[Status]
LABEL=LARA_CROFT_1
VERSION=v0.29.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=19090040832
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=19090040832
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.434479749571654
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=3
COMPLETED=1
[00004]
AUDIO=11
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=8294142729
RATE=9189
NSIZE=7279736832
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00006]
M2TS_TARGET=93431

[Roxx]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Capsbackup
Correct. I inserted/edited BD-RB's meta file for that m2ts with "timeshift=250ms" in the appropriate location within that meta file.
However, just editing and saving this meta file inside the Workfiles folder was not working. Upon rebuild, BD-RB would change/correct my edits to back to the original meta. I had to run that edited meta from the command line, and then substitute this new m2ts/clpi into the BD-RB Workfiles folder for a new rebuild. <cut>

I've corrected it for the next release. Luckily there aren't very many discs out there that need it.

Hi. Same problem (?) here with Dexter Season 2. (pic)
BD_RB did not backup the disc correctly with v0.29.04, high speed bd25.
But will Capsbackup option work in v0.29.04? (editing and saving the meta file inside the Workfiles folder)
I don't know how to run it from a command line...

First problem for me with bd_rb. Great program. Thanks for your time & effort. Much appreciated.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by vsj023

I re-installed latest ffdshow_rev2661_20090207_clsid, latest Haali app and Avisynth_257 and i kee getting the same error. I have used this app from the beginning and i've never had problems until this version of BD Rebuilder. Any suggestions? I would really appreciate the help. Thanks.

This has to be something peculiar about this disc. Nothing has changed related to that routine in quite some time.

Normally that error occurs when there is some inconsistency between video & audio timing ("no sync"). So BD-RB looks for it, and attempts to demux the video and audio independently. It looks like in your case that demuxing the video alone still causes the error. That's why the error is logged twice.

Is there secondary video on that M2TS?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by chudm

im doing full backup to bd25

Do a demux with TSMUXER and then add up all the audio and sub files... see what they come to.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by DK

I'm having problems with Tomb Raider 1 Region B



VID_00006.AVS.264 is not present, only:

- VID_00006.AVS
- VID_00006.AVS.MKV
- VID_00006.AVS.MKV.stats

The main movie is:
VID_00004.AVS.264 and this was created properly and completely together with the two sound streams.

Muxing video + audio streams woorked fine via tsmuxer, so the goal was achieved: a movie only backup but i have no idea why bd rebuilder got stuck with two different versions and slightly different settings:
1pass with version 0.28.03 and 2 passes with 0.29.04

You say the "Main Movie" is... but you're doing a movie-only encode... so if VID_00006.AVS isn't part of the main-movie is shouldn't be included.

I'll look at this. It might be that there is a small intro or exit M2TS associated with the main-movie that is field-based interlaced (so it gets converted for encoding). Does 00006 show up on the streams list with "**" next to its framerate?

[Kakashi Sensei]

Sorry if this was covered I tried search and most of the PiP stuff was for BD9/5. I just did a backup of Forgetting Sarah Marshall Full Disc BD25. Set it to encode the secondary tracks - Was that the wrong settings or does the Universal U-Control not work with the backup? Just wondering b/c when I tried to set U-Control PiP the audio for the movie goes low and nothing happens.

Here are the INI settings:

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
PROCESS_SECONDARY=1

Thanks guys!

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Kakashi Sensei

Sorry if this was covered I tried search and most of the PiP stuff was for BD9/5. I just did a backup of Forgetting Sarah Marshall Full Disc BD25. Set it to encode the secondary tracks - Was that the wrong settings or does the Universal U-Control not work with the backup? Just wondering b/c when I tried to set U-Control PiP the audio for the movie goes low and nothing happens.

Here are the INI settings:

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
PROCESS_SECONDARY=1

Thanks guys!

If it is DTS secondary audio there is still no way to include it, because TSMUXER won't process it. So it's just "left out" for now.

[DK]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

You say the "Main Movie" is... but you're doing a movie-only encode... so if VID_00006.AVS isn't part of the main-movie is shouldn't be included.

I'll look at this. It might be that there is a small intro or exit M2TS associated with the main-movie that is field-based interlaced (so it gets converted for encoding). Does 00006 show up on the streams list with "**" next to its framerate?

yes, i was doing movie only

will check TR1 in BD Rebuilder later on - have a conversion running right now

i had a look at the original files and 00006 is a 4 sec m2ts file with nothing but black content and 216kb in size

[Kakashi Sensei]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

If it is DTS secondary audio there is still no way to include it, because TSMUXER won't process it. So it's just "left out" for now.

I'll have to double check that b/c i think its AC3, but even if thats the case shouldn't the video play?

I'll re rip the movie and double check, thanks Jdobbs.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by DK

yes, i was doing movie only

will check TR1 in BD Rebuilder later on - have a conversion running right now

i had a look at the original files and 00006 is a 4 sec m2ts file with nothing but black content and 216kb in size

It's not unusual to see something like that to be used as a chapter point for "end of movie".

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Kakashi Sensei

I'll have to double check that b/c i think its AC3, but even if thats the case shouldn't the video play?

I'll re rip the movie and double check, thanks Jdobbs.

I must have misunderstood. I though all that happened was a lowering of the volume on the primary audio track.