AMD, Intel and Nvidia driver issues and last recommended version

Klaus1189 · 9th January 2019, 16:52

Welcome!

In this thread you can check for issues with graphic drivers from AMD, Intel and Nvidia.
This thread is meant for use with madVR and its compatible players like Zoom Player, PotPlayer, KMPlayer, MPC-HC and my personal favourite MPC-BE.

I had to create an external file, because the first two posts are limited and had no more space for new driver releases.

View PDF

But hey, maybe some Driver Dev may stumble over my thread here, please read this:

AMD
Known limitations of Radeon RX 5000 and 6000 GPUs (older generations are fine):
• Hardware deinterlacing is broken in every driver version -> It is poor quality when applied to
interlaced video and it is not adaptive anymore, which is a NO-GO for HTPC usage.
You can check this issue yourself: Download this short MBAFF sample file
The Hardware Deinterlacer should be aware that the characters above "WWW.D88.COM" are progressive and should not be deinterlaced, otherwise you will see flickering like in this picture
See here for more details
• Color levels (full 0-255 vs. limited 16-235) are broken. That means limited 16-235 which is the standard range for videos are interpreted as 0-255 and this leads to elevated blacks and dimm whites.
This issue can be best seen on displays which want full range 0-255, like TVs in PC Mode (PC mode for full 4:4:4/RGB support, so you do not use color subsampling like 4:2:2 or 4:2:0)
Also overriding the range for test purposes in MPC-BE (video tab -> Output range) does not take effect.
Dear AMD, if any of your driver programmers read this: Please fix this fundamental video bugs .These are there since RX 5000 series launch.

I just tried the Windows default app "Movies and TV" and this app does not support frame adaptive deinterlacer at all. So best is to download MPC-BE and play the sample file. Windows default app "Movies and TV" really sucks.

Sorry Micro$oft, but with all the skilled and well paid developers you can only achieve this? This is ridiculous.

Intel
iGPU Intel UHD 770 in 12 gen CPU is broken for MPC-BE in use with EVR and EVR custom presenter. You get audio but video is black.
To "solve" the issue is to rename MPC-BE to MPC-HC. Are you serious Intel? Do you really think that is the way of fixing bugs? That is ridiculous for the well paid developers of Intel!
See here for details:
https://sourceforge.net/p/mpcbe/tickets/912/

Nvidia
I am really impressed of what you have done to fix all the HTPC issues of the last 3 years, but I think a little more tweaking of the 23.976 Hz (called 23 Hz, but not 24 Hz!) to get more than 10 hours of no framedrop/repeat like AMD would be nice. I know you can do that.

Klaus1189 · 9th January 2019, 16:53

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chros · 9th January 2019, 16:58

This old one for nvidia works fine for sure: v385.28

Charky · 12th January 2019, 08:37

That's an excellent initiative. I've been looking for something like this for a long time since everyone seems to have an opinion on which driver version is the best, some people even using 2 yo+ drivers....

I've been using 417.35 on Win 10 1810 and haven't noticed any issues... NV HDR switches on & off fine, I created a 12bits 2160p23 custom resolution with custom timings CRU and it switches back and forth just fine.

Klaus1189 · 12th January 2019, 13:04

Do you need Fullscreen Exclusive Mode for NV HDR switching? Does it also work with windowed mode?

Warner306 · 12th January 2019, 14:14

Maybe you should highlight the ones that pass HDR correctly in green or some other color?

Klaus1189 · 12th January 2019, 17:46

good idea

Klaus1189 · 16th January 2019, 17:20

any info about 417.71 from 2019.01.15?

Warner306 · 17th January 2019, 15:20

You might have to collect your information from the official support thread. I don't think visibility is too high for other smaller threads.

Charky · 18th January 2019, 10:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charky

That's an excellent initiative. I've been looking for something like this for a long time since everyone seems to have an opinion on which driver version is the best, some people even using 2 yo+ drivers....

I've been using 417.35 on Win 10 1810 and haven't noticed any issues... NV HDR switches on & off fine, I created a 12bits 2160p23 custom resolution with custom timings CRU and it switches back and forth just fine.

And now I quote myself...

When I wrote that last post, I hadn't tried my Sony HW40ES projector on my new setup yet.

Turns out, I forgot newest drivers are unable to create custom resolutions suitable for this projector, even with CRU. But they work fine with my OLED LG C8 TV. Go figure...

Anyway, to create a custom res with my projector, without encountering the "the GPU driver rejected this mode, for unknown reasons" error, I used the 385.28 drivers, whick I picked randomly after reading about them in madvr main topic.

Worked like a charm.

Grimsdyke · 18th January 2019, 14:12

I use my Intel-IGPU system for around 12 months now and I did not noticed any real driver-problems although I also did not specifically looked for them.
Only Full-RGB produced a too dark picture inbetween but this was fixed soon too.
Besides that the performance is so good now that I have decided to not purchase a new board now but wait for ICE LAKE hopefully early next year.

Asmodian · 21st January 2019, 08:06

The current 417.71 drivers are issue free for me on a RTX 2080 Ti, Win10 1809 17763.253. HDR requires 10-bit output but both D3D11 fullscreen windowed and exclusive work well, with the GPU sending 8-bit RGB HDR to my LG C7P. I can also add a custom mode for 23.976 Hz, optimize it, and madVR will switch to it later.

chros · 21st January 2019, 12:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asmodian

I can also add a custom mode for 23.976 Hz, optimize it, and madVR will switch to it later.

Will it remain there after reboot?

ashlar42 · 21st January 2019, 13:17

Excellent initiative! I'm still currently using a 1080p SDR screen, so there's not much that I can contribute but I'm often thinking about the nightmare I'll face when I'll upgrade to 4K HDR, driver choice included. Thanks for making that bit a little less daunting.

Charky · 21st January 2019, 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by chros

Will it remain there after reboot?

On my setup, same drivers, it does.

Asmodian · 21st January 2019, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by chros

Will it remain there after reboot?

It does!

iSeries · 21st January 2019, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asmodian

It does!

Is madVR able to create the custom timing or does CRU have to be used to get 12bit?

Asmodian · 22nd January 2019, 02:56

8-bit only. I don't use anything higher, my TV does not like >8-bit input.

iSeries · 22nd January 2019, 11:48

Mine neither lol but was just curious. Thanks:-)

Oguignant · 28th January 2019, 07:45

wtf, none of these works with my 1080ti + win10 1803 + LG OLED TV

Nvidia GeForce Game Ready Driver

417.71 2019-01-15 HDR passthrough OK see here
417.35 2018-12-12 HDR passthrough OK
417.22 2018-12-03
417.01 2018-11-16
416.94 2018-11-13

9th January 2019, 16:52	#1 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,614	AMD, Intel and Nvidia driver issues and last recommended version Welcome! In this thread you can check for issues with graphic drivers from AMD, Intel and Nvidia. This thread is meant for use with madVR and its compatible players like Zoom Player, PotPlayer, KMPlayer, MPC-HC and my personal favourite MPC-BE. I had to create an external file, because the first two posts are limited and had no more space for new driver releases. View PDF But hey, maybe some Driver Dev may stumble over my thread here, please read this: AMD Known limitations of Radeon RX 5000 and 6000 GPUs (older generations are fine): • Hardware deinterlacing is broken in every driver version -> It is poor quality when applied to interlaced video and it is not adaptive anymore, which is a NO-GO for HTPC usage. You can check this issue yourself: Download this short MBAFF sample file The Hardware Deinterlacer should be aware that the characters above "WWW.D88.COM" are progressive and should not be deinterlaced, otherwise you will see flickering like in this picture See here for more details • Color levels (full 0-255 vs. limited 16-235) are broken. That means limited 16-235 which is the standard range for videos are interpreted as 0-255 and this leads to elevated blacks and dimm whites. This issue can be best seen on displays which want full range 0-255, like TVs in PC Mode (PC mode for full 4:4:4/RGB support, so you do not use color subsampling like 4:2:2 or 4:2:0) Also overriding the range for test purposes in MPC-BE (video tab -> Output range) does not take effect. Dear AMD, if any of your driver programmers read this: Please fix this fundamental video bugs .These are there since RX 5000 series launch. I just tried the Windows default app "Movies and TV" and this app does not support frame adaptive deinterlacer at all. So best is to download MPC-BE and play the sample file. Windows default app "Movies and TV" really sucks. Sorry Micro$oft, but with all the skilled and well paid developers you can only achieve this? This is ridiculous. Intel iGPU Intel UHD 770 in 12 gen CPU is broken for MPC-BE in use with EVR and EVR custom presenter. You get audio but video is black. To "solve" the issue is to rename MPC-BE to MPC-HC. Are you serious Intel? Do you really think that is the way of fixing bugs? That is ridiculous for the well paid developers of Intel! See here for details: https://sourceforge.net/p/mpcbe/tickets/912/ Nvidia I am really impressed of what you have done to fix all the HTPC issues of the last 3 years, but I think a little more tweaking of the 23.976 Hz (called 23 Hz, but not 24 Hz!) to get more than 10 hours of no framedrop/repeat like AMD would be nice. I know you can do that. Last edited by Klaus1189; 27th April 2022 at 18:55.

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chros Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,323	This old one for nvidia works fine for sure: v385.28 __________________ Ryzen 5 2600,Asus Prime b450-Plus,16GB,MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X 6GB(v398.18),Win10 LTSC 1809,MPC-BEx64+LAV+MadVR,Yamaha RX-A870,LG OLED77G2(2160p@23/24/25/29/30/50/59/60Hz) \| madvr config

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Charky Registered User Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Paris, France Posts: 80	That's an excellent initiative. I've been looking for something like this for a long time since everyone seems to have an opinion on which driver version is the best, some people even using 2 yo+ drivers.... I've been using 417.35 on Win 10 1810 and haven't noticed any issues... NV HDR switches on & off fine, I created a 12bits 2160p23 custom resolution with custom timings CRU and it switches back and forth just fine. Last edited by Charky; 12th January 2019 at 08:41.

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Warner306 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,127	Maybe you should highlight the ones that pass HDR correctly in green or some other color? __________________ HOW TO - Set up madVR for Kodi DSPlayer & External Media Players

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Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,614	Do you need Fullscreen Exclusive Mode for NV HDR switching? Does it also work with windowed mode?

12th January 2019, 17:46	#7 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,614	good idea

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Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,614	any info about 417.71 from 2019.01.15?

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Warner306 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,127	You might have to collect your information from the official support thread. I don't think visibility is too high for other smaller threads. __________________ HOW TO - Set up madVR for Kodi DSPlayer & External Media Players

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Grimsdyke Registered User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Hannover, Germany Posts: 266	I use my Intel-IGPU system for around 12 months now and I did not noticed any real driver-problems although I also did not specifically looked for them. Only Full-RGB produced a too dark picture inbetween but this was fixed soon too. Besides that the performance is so good now that I have decided to not purchase a new board now but wait for ICE LAKE hopefully early next year.

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Asmodian Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 4,387	The current 417.71 drivers are issue free for me on a RTX 2080 Ti, Win10 1809 17763.253. HDR requires 10-bit output but both D3D11 fullscreen windowed and exclusive work well, with the GPU sending 8-bit RGB HDR to my LG C7P. I can also add a custom mode for 23.976 Hz, optimize it, and madVR will switch to it later. __________________ madVR options explained

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ashlar42 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 634	Excellent initiative! I'm still currently using a 1080p SDR screen, so there's not much that I can contribute but I'm often thinking about the nightmare I'll face when I'll upgrade to 4K HDR, driver choice included. Thanks for making that bit a little less daunting.

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Asmodian Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 4,387	8-bit only. I don't use anything higher, my TV does not like >8-bit input. __________________ madVR options explained

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iSeries Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 625	Mine neither lol but was just curious. Thanks:-)

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Oguignant Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 181	wtf, none of these works with my 1080ti + win10 1803 + LG OLED TV Nvidia GeForce Game Ready Driver 417.71 2019-01-15 HDR passthrough OK see here 417.35 2018-12-12 HDR passthrough OK 417.22 2018-12-03 417.01 2018-11-16 416.94 2018-11-13 __________________ "To infinity, and beyond!" Last edited by Oguignant; 28th January 2019 at 07:50.

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