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Old 21st October 2020, 15:55   #30121  |  Link
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Still no max bitrate 50000.
CRF 18
mBitrate=50000 in de alterternate.txt file.
Add TWEAK_ALTERNATE_NV=--max-bitrate 50000 --vbv-bufsize 50000 in the BDREBUILDER.ini file.

LASTCMD.TEXT: "C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe" --avhw -i "G:\BDRB_WORK\IMPORTS\UNCUT_GEMS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts" --codec h264 --preset quality --bluray --vbr 0 --vbr-quality 18 --aq-temporal --keyfile "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP" --aud --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 50000 --max-bitrate 50000 --gop-len 24 --max-bitrate 50000 --vbv-bufsize 50000 -o "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"
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Old 22nd October 2020, 00:41   #30122  |  Link
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Did it with CRF 18 now. Same result. max bitrate of 40000
mBitrate=50000 in de alterternate.txt file.
No TWEAK_ALTERNATE_NV in the BDREBUILDER.ini file.

LASTCMD.TEXT: "C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe" --avhw -i "G:\BDRB_WORK\IMPORTS\UNCUT_GEMS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts" --codec h264 --preset quality --bluray --vbr 0 --vbr-quality 18 --aq-temporal --keyfile "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP" --aud --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 50000 --max-bitrate 50000 --gop-len 24 -o "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"
It has to be a limitation of NVENCC... but I haven't seen it documented anywhere.
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Old 22nd October 2020, 07:29   #30123  |  Link
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It has to be a limitation of NVENCC... but I haven't seen it documented anywhere.
Could these 40000 kbps be due to '--bluray' in the commandline?
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Old 22nd October 2020, 16:52   #30124  |  Link
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Could these 40000 kbps be due to '--bluray' in the commandline?
You're probably right. It makes complete sense since the maximum video bitrate for bluray (HD) actually is 40Mbs, with the combined audio/video being 48Mbs. I would have thought, though, that a later command line callout would override it.
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Old 22nd October 2020, 18:50   #30125  |  Link
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You're probably right. It makes complete sense since the maximum video bitrate for bluray (HD) actually is 40Mbs, with the combined audio/video being 48Mbs. I would have thought, though, that a later command line callout would override it, though.
Did a test with CloneBD and it also had a max bitrate of 40 Mbs.
So jdobbs, no worries, 40000 is okay for me.

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Old 27th October 2020, 15:16   #30126  |  Link
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Not sure if this qualifies as a bug but in newer versions of Windows 10 there is a setting called "Use Unicode UTF-8 for worldwide language support" (it's in Control Panel -> Region -> Change system locale). When it is enabled BDRB gives a "2501 Source Check() 00009 2501" and "Select Source is not BD format" errors when opening a BD source.
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Old 27th October 2020, 22:13   #30127  |  Link
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Not sure if this qualifies as a bug but in newer versions of Windows 10 there is a setting called "Use Unicode UTF-8 for worldwide language support" (it's in Control Panel -> Region -> Change system locale). When it is enabled BDRB gives a "2501 Source Check() 00009 2501" and "Select Source is not BD format" errors when opening a BD source.
On my system it says that setting is in beta status. My guess (hope?) is that it will be fixed at some point before going final.

In the meantime I will look at that error, try to repeat it, and see if I can track down why it is happening.
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Old 28th October 2020, 01:32   #30128  |  Link
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Hello everyone. I'm completely new here. First of all many thanks to jdobbs for a wonderful piece of software, you're the best. Now then, I think I've read a lot of the thread and I'm not sure if what I'm going to report has been reported already but here goes. Yesterday I tried to encode a BD from BD50 to BD25 with Nvenc and it so happens that this BD had secondary video. Nvenc couldn't deal with that. The original .264 file for the secondary video was 9 Mb and the resulting file was 2 Gb, more importantly the bitrate for the main video was drastically reduced because of it.

I don't know if I'm making myself clear, english is not my native language so please bear with me, if you need anymore details I'll be happy to provide them if I can.

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.... if you need anymore details I'll be happy to provide them if I can.
More details would be nice indeed. If you want help you should give much as possible information to understand and (maybe even) reproduce the issue you have.
The full processing log (look into the WORKING folder) would be a good starting point.

BTW Sure you have a 9 MB secondary video? Sounds short :-) There is no (Blu-Ray) compatible bitrate that could inflate it into a 2 GB file... Mediainfo report of that file / playlist could be helpful as well.

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More details would be nice indeed. If you want help you should give much as possible information to understand and (maybe even) reproduce the issue you have.
The full processing log (look into the WORKING folder) would be a good starting point.

BTW Sure you have a 9 MB secondary video? Sounds short :-) There is no (Blu-Ray) compatible bitrate that could inflate it into a 2 GB file... Mediainfo report of that file / playlist could be helpful as well.

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Of course I understand and you're right, but before I go and do all that (which I'm more than happy to do) I would first like to ask:

Has anybody here encoded a BD, with secondary video, with nvenc, without any problems?

And yes, it was very strange to me too to see a file so big come out of something so small but it happened so I'm a believer now.
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I decided to try and get the info needed to illustrate my problem, it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. Here it is.

First, the BD-RB log, I stopped it of course because it's pointless to let it finish. Of interest here is to look at the encoding bitrate for the file VID_0045 after the secondary video is encoded:

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[10/29/20] BD Rebuilder v0.61.18
[17:32:10] Source: TRUE.DETECTIVE.S01.DISC2
- Input BD size: 43,12 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:20:26.464]
- Target BD size: 23,44 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Auto Quality: Very Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:32:10] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:32:10] Processing: VID_00017 (1 of 11)
- [17:32:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [17:32:17] Reencoding video [VID_00017]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 336 frames
- Bitrate: 1 894 Kbs
- [17:32:17] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:32:23] Video Encode complete
- [17:32:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [17:32:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:32:27] Processing: VID_00018 (2 of 11)
- [17:32:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [17:32:34] Reencoding video [VID_00018]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 5 876 frames
- Bitrate: 1 952 Kbs
- [17:32:34] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:32:49] Video Encode complete
- [17:32:49] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [17:32:49] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:32:53] Processing: VID_00045 (3 of 11)
- [17:32:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00045]
- [17:38:01] Reencoding video [VID_00045]
- [17:38:01] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 82 090 frames
- Bitrate: 7 936 Kbs
- [17:41:36] Reencoding: VID_00045, Pass 1 of 1
Next is the mediainfo of the secondary video file in its original form:

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General
Complete name : D:\temp\WORKFILES\00045.track_6912.264
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
File size : 9.08 MiB
Overall bit rate mode : Constant

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.2
Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference fra : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 000 kb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.121
As you can see it's 9 Mb in size. Next the resulting file after encoding:

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General
Complete name : D:\temp\WORKFILES\VID_00045_2.AVS.264
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
File size : 2.34 GiB
Overall bit rate mode : Variable

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4
Format settings : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference fra : 3 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=4, N=24
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 7 000 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.2:1
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
As you can see, 2.3 Gb in size. And here I noticed something very strange, as I played both files the original file is like a black screen, I don't know its purpose but it's not the traditional secondary video where you can see interviews and whatnot, must be some stupid uninteresting thing, but the fact remains that is there. When I play the encoded video I can see the movie playing but with like a different aspect ratio, as a matter of fact the original is 720x480 and the encoded is 1920x1080, it's very strange. One could say that this is a problematic title if it wasn't for the fact that x264 has no problems with the encode. I'll show right away.

First the BD-RB log, notice the encoding bitrate for the file VID_0045 this time around, it's practically doubled:


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[10/29/20] BD Rebuilder v0.61.18
[17:55:53] Source: TRUE.DETECTIVE.S01.DISC2
- Input BD size: 43,12 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:20:26.464]
- Target BD size: 23,44 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Auto Quality: Very Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:55:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:55:56] Processing: VID_00017 (1 of 11)
- [17:55:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [17:56:01] Reencoding video [VID_00017]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 336 frames
- Bitrate: 1 894 Kbs
- [17:56:01] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:56:03] Video Encode complete
- [17:56:03] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [17:56:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:56:07] Processing: VID_00018 (2 of 11)
- [17:56:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [17:56:13] Reencoding video [VID_00018]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 5 876 frames
- Bitrate: 1 952 Kbs
- [17:56:13] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:56:42] Video Encode complete
- [17:56:42] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [17:56:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:56:47] Processing: VID_00045 (3 of 11)
- [17:56:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00045]
- [17:58:48] Reencoding video [VID_00045]
- [17:58:48] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 82 090 frames
- Bitrate: 13 651 Kbs
- [18:00:18] Reencoding: VID_00045, Pass 1 of 1
Now the mediainfo for the resulting file this time around:

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General
Complete name : D:\temp\WORKFILES\VID_00045_2.AVS.264
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
File size : 3.33 MiB
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Writing library : x264 core 158 r2984 3759fcb
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=0:0:0 / analyse=0:0 / me=dia / subme=0 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=0 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=0 / open_gop=0 / weightp=0 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=0 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=0 / rc=crf / mbtree=0 / crf=25.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=7000 / vbv_bufsize=12000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.10 / pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=0

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.2
Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference fra : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=4, N=24
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 7 000 kb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Writing library : x264 core 158 r2984 3759fcb
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=0:0:0 / analyse=0:0 / me=dia / subme=0 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=0 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=0 / open_gop=0 / weightp=0 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=0 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=0 / rc=crf / mbtree=0 / crf=25.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=7000 / vbv_bufsize=12000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.10 / pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=0
As you can see, 3.3 Mb in size and it's displaying a black screen like the original and it's 720x480 like the original.

To me it seems like a problem with the encoder, not the file itself, but these are my two cents, I hope it helps and if there really is a problem that it can be solved. I appreciate the help.
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Old 30th October 2020, 07:45   #30132  |  Link
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Well, I made a long post documenting my findings but I guess it was too long or something because the moderator didn't see fit to publish it, so I wasted my time there. Instead I'm going to try and document an interesting finding. It seems the problem lies in the command line. While doing the encode I went to the LASTCMD.TXT file and found this:

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"D:\1\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe" --avhw -i "E:\TRUE.DETECTIVE.S01.DISC2\BDMV\STREAM\00045.m2ts" --codec h264 --preset performance --bluray --qp-min 0 --multipass 2pass-full --vbr 0 --vbr-quality 25 --aq-temporal --sar 40:33 --aud --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 12000 --max-bitrate 7000 --gop-len 24 -o "D:\TEMP\WORKFILES\VID_00045_2.AVS.264"
In other words, it's encoding the wrong file. It's supposed to be encoding the file 00045.track_6912.264 and instead it's being directed to the .m2ts without any indication to the secondary video except in the end. So what happens is that the software encodes the main movie only with a different set of commands, that explains the file size. I'm not the expert here but maybe there's the problem.
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Well, I made a long post documenting my findings but I guess it was too long or something because the moderator didn't see fit to publish it,.
posts are not moderated ( upon posting) (but afterwards yes) , try again, tip if your writing large amounts, either copy your txt before you submit so if it goes wrong you can paste your work or compose it in notepad

also if your posting long bits of log and data you need to wrap them in "code" to encase it in a smaller window thats scrollable

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posts are not moderated ( upon posting) (but afterwards yes) , try again, tip if your writing large amounts, either copy your txt before you submit so if it goes wrong you can paste your work or compose it in notepad

also if your posting long bits of log and data you need to wrap them in "code" to encase it in a smaller window thats scrollable
Yes, I did all that. And as a matter of fact I have it in a txt just in case, but I'm mentioning a moderator because when I posted it I got a message saying that the post would be reviewed by a moderator beforehand and that I would not be able to view it right away, which stroke me as funny but like I said I'm new here. As time has passed already I am led to believe it's not going to be posted
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A lot of forums limit posts by new users, in that a moderator needs to review them. Then, after a certain number of posts, moderation is no longer done.
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Yes, I did all that. And as a matter of fact I have it in a txt just in case, but I'm mentioning a moderator because when I posted it I got a message saying that the post would be reviewed by a moderator beforehand and that I would not be able to view it right away, which stroke me as funny but like I said I'm new here. As time has passed already I am led to believe it's not going to be posted
Looking at the code snippet you posted, the file name in the path does not look like a BD. Is the source from a BD50 disk or a download?
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Looking at the code snippet you posted, the file name in the path does not look like a BD. Is the source from a BD50 disk or a download?
It's from a BD50 disk. I ripped everything to the HDD to do the backup
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It's from a BD50 disk. I ripped everything to the HDD to do the backup
I find that extremely doubtful. No retail disc ever uses a volume name such as "TRUE.DETECTIVE.S01.DISC2". That is a naming scheme typically used with "the warez scene" and illegal downloads.
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I find that extremely doubtful. No retail disc ever uses a volume name such as "TRUE.DETECTIVE.S01.DISC2". That is a naming scheme typically used with "the warez scene" and illegal downloads.
Let me see if I understand. So I come in here reporting a problem with the software and I all I get is somebody calling me a liar. What do you know about me, who are you anyway? I doubt you're the authority here and you're already making assumptions. And let's not even go to your superior intellect saying that your clue is indisputable. So if the naming of the folder is not to your liking that means it's an illegal download, wow, you must be the top detective in your town. And let's also not go as to how you know that's a "typically used" scheme, it seems to me you're the one visiting the "warez scene".

The nerve of some people. For your information I name all my rips in the same manner whether you like it or not. If you're not gonna help or won't gonna help, or worst of all can't help then spare me your comments.

And yes, I'm upset because you have no right to be making assumptions about me. At least show some sign that you have a clue about the problem, all you have done is question me without even trying to help so what's the deal here?

Anyway it doesn't matter. It's obvious that this is not a support forum but more like a fan club, only members of the "gang" get help here with their questions. It's been days and not a soul has a clue as to the problem, or even worse they're saying nothing because I'm not in the "circle". If the source has secondary video I'll just use x264 and problem solved. Have a good day.
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Regarding the "visiting", ever heard of the torrentfreak new site? Nobody here is explicitly saying you're lying, or anything like it. All we're saying is that (based on multiple other posters here) everyone that used a source rip named like that as a volume label, every single one of them had problems. Every single one of them used a pirated rip, which in turn had been pre-processed by other tools (non-bdrb) which then cause problems for processing with bdrb.

And no, i havent done anything but question you. The other guy was CV91913, that guy aint me.
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