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Old 1st April 2021, 14:35   #30521  |  Link
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I dont know
Now i get backup
First with dvdfab without compression
After with bdrebuilder in bd25

First time i have problem with a backup
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If you don't mind me asking, what was the Blu-ray source of the burned copy that wouldn't play in your BDP-83? I'm having a similar problem that I initially tried addressing at RedFox here:

https://forum.redfox.bz/threads/solv...-4#post-534479

but I'm not so sure that's the problem. Another poster in that thread had a similar problem with that title (Knives Out) and the burned copy not playing in a stand alone Blu-ray player. Also reported that with "Judy" (another recent Lionsgate release) on Blu-ray.

https://forum.redfox.bz/threads/solv...-3#post-513955

I'm just wondering if this might be a specific title or a larger Lionsgate issue (or maybe I just have an entire spindle of blank discs that have gone bad).

If you feel so inclined...thanks.
It's been a little while ago (my fault) so I'm not sure, but I believe it was the recent Blu-ray release of 'BREAKDOWN' from Imprint in Australia, but ripped region free of course. Again, in my case it SEEMS that the only difference between a Blu-ray disc burned after being re-encoded by BDRB playing and not playing was using an older version of TSMuxer instead of whatever newer version is included with BDRB. As soon as I took the raw re-encoded files from the 'Workfiles' folder and remuxed them with the older version of TSMuxer, the resulting Blu-ray played perfectly.
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Great! Bug Vanquished! V is for Victory! VBR Rules! Sorry for any convusion (pun intended).
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It's been a little while ago (my fault) so I'm not sure, but I believe it was the recent Blu-ray release of 'BREAKDOWN' from Imprint in Australia, but ripped region free of course. Again, in my case it SEEMS that the only difference between a Blu-ray disc burned after being re-encoded by BDRB playing and not playing was using an older version of TSMuxer instead of whatever newer version is included with BDRB. As soon as I took the raw re-encoded files from the 'Workfiles' folder and remuxed them with the older version of TSMuxer, the resulting Blu-ray played perfectly.
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Thanks much for the reply/info. I was just curious if it was another Lionsgate release.
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Good morning. I have a doubt. if when I make a backup in bd25 the estimated time is 50 hours with 2 passes, how much will the estimated time be if I make a backup in bd50 of the same film with the same settings? 25 hours?
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Top man , nice to see people supporting this awesome piece of software, its certainly been useful to me so will also be donating soon
Well, I just got this stimulus dumped in my lap and I don't really have a lot of expenses, so I thought it would be a good time to send something JD's way.

I kinda wanted to help out gonca too. I feel kind of sorry for him way up there in the Great North, isolated deep in the snowy forest in that ramshackle cabin of his. But, I KNOW that he would just spend it on Moose Pheromones. Sometimes tough love is best... (not to be confused with Moose love)
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Old 6th April 2021, 17:49   #30529  |  Link
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Good morning. I have a doubt. if when I make a backup in bd25 the estimated time is 50 hours with 2 passes, how much will the estimated time be if I make a backup in bd50 of the same film with the same settings? 25 hours?
I'd guess, about the same time ... the whole video needs to be reencoded, just with a higher bitrate.

Why don't you just try it?
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So I'm not sure if this is a 'bug', a known limitation or I have an internal setting wrong? Using latest BDRB 0.61.21 and I am sending through a UHD title that has an additional audio track muxed in (I am doing testing to add in audio\subtitle tracks to existing UHD title & have thread over in the "Blu-ray Authoring' section)

Anyway this title has 2 audio tracks; DTS 4.0, DTS 2.0 I have muxed in an additional track & clipinfo that is DTS-HD 7.1 (BDRB reads it ok upon import) - so it reads it all correctly when importing. I set everything as export to BD-50 & Full Backup and the version that has been output now has converted my DTS-HD 7.1 track to a DTS 5.1 track (So it now shows DTS 4.0, 2.0 & 5.1 where before BDRB it showed DTS 4.0, 2.0 & DTS-HD MA 7.1)

Is this a limitation of BDRB, or did it do something on purpose to convert the DTS-HD 7.1 track to DTS 5.1?
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So I'm not sure if this is a 'bug', a known limitation or I have an internal setting wrong? Using latest BDRB 0.61.21 and I am sending through a UHD title that has an additional audio track muxed in (I am doing testing to add in audio\subtitle tracks to existing UHD title & have thread over in the "Blu-ray Authoring' section)

Anyway this title has 2 audio tracks; DTS 4.0, DTS 2.0 I have muxed in an additional track & clipinfo that is DTS-HD 7.1 (BDRB reads it ok upon import) - so it reads it all correctly when importing. I set everything as export to BD-50 & Full Backup and the version that has been output now has converted my DTS-HD 7.1 track to a DTS 5.1 track (So it now shows DTS 4.0, 2.0 & 5.1 where before BDRB it showed DTS 4.0, 2.0 & DTS-HD MA 7.1)

Is this a limitation of BDRB, or did it do something on purpose to convert the DTS-HD 7.1 track to DTS 5.1?
BD-RB can change a 7.1 track to a 5.1 track is if it is being reencoded (standard AC3 doesn't support 7.1). Since your description says it is still DTS in the output -- I don't see how that could be the case. It might also happen if the core audio is being kept and the core is 5.1.

If I understand correctly, you have created a file (MKV, MP4, M2TS?) in which you have muxed in a DTS 7.1 track and then imported it into BD-RB. You then reencoded from the newly created pseudo-disc structure.

1. Do you have "Do not convert DTS to AC3" checked in the SETUP dialog? That will prevent it from being reencoded to AC3.

2. You should also make sure you click "Keep HD Audio for BD25/Alternate intact" -- and set your output size is set to a minimum of BD-25 (as it appears you have). That's because HD audio is generally too big for smaller output sizes. Typically 7.1 sources are HD (as yours is). By default it is unchecked and BD-RB keeps the core audio.

I'm guessing the option in #2 isn't checked and that is the source of your issue.
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Jdobbs; thanks for the reply, I did in fact have the 'Keep HD Audio' unchecked in the setup, so it was converting the DTS-HD tracks to DTS just like you thought.

Basically in that other thread another user and I are trying to come up with a streamlined or system\guide to insert audio & subtitle tracks into a UHD title keeping everything else (structure) intact.

Simplified; if TSmuxerGUI is used to create the M2TS you would like (with added sub track\audio etc.) along with a clipinf file then replace the M2TS in the current UHD title with your revised one (of course it doesn't work correctly at this point).

At that point if you take that revised UHD title and send it through your lovely program it will 'fix' the title into a playable UHD title, I then use BDedit for further needed tweaking.

Now for me I have a finished & working 45gb or so UHD title capable of burning to BD-DL and that is fine for me however others may want to keep the UHD size intact and use an ISO for playback - my test UHD title is 57gb in size - so for them; is BDRB able to run through the entire process to 'rebuild & fix' the title but not actually compress?
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Jdobbs; thanks for the reply, I did in fact have the 'Keep HD Audio' unchecked in the setup, so it was converting the DTS-HD tracks to DTS just like you thought.

Basically in that other thread another user and I are trying to come up with a streamlined or system\guide to insert audio & subtitle tracks into a UHD title keeping everything else (structure) intact.

Simplified; if TSmuxerGUI is used to create the M2TS you would like (with added sub track\audio etc.) along with a clipinf file then replace the M2TS in the current UHD title with your revised one (of course it doesn't work correctly at this point).

At that point if you take that revised UHD title and send it through your lovely program it will 'fix' the title into a playable UHD title, I then use BDedit for further needed tweaking.

Now for me I have a finished & working 45gb or so UHD title capable of burning to BD-DL and that is fine for me however others may want to keep the UHD size intact and use an ISO for playback - my test UHD title is 57gb in size - so for them; is BDRB able to run through the entire process to 'rebuild & fix' the title but not actually compress?
Yes. You can either set FORCE_NOENCODE=1 in the INI file, or create a custom output size and make it larger than the input. If there is no need to recompress, the BD-RB will keep it intact.

Just a warning, though. The maximum encode bitrate for a BD-66 or BD-100 is higher than a BD-50. I haven't personally had an issue with it... but it's possible there could be playback issues if the bitrate goes higher than acceptable for BD-50, assuming the source came from a BD-66 or BD-100.
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I'd guess, about the same time ... the whole video needs to be reencoded, just with a higher bitrate.

Why don't you just try it?
I was hoping that with less compression it would take less time
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Old 8th April 2021, 17:38   #30535  |  Link
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encoded fps is very low on playback

I've redone this bd a couple of times and am having the same problem. The video playback of the burned bd has a notably slow fps, as if I'm watching a slow motion playback.

I am running v61.21. I have even tried uninstalling and reinstalling bdrb and all associated programs hoping that would help. It didn't.

Any help is appreciated. Data is below. Thanks!

Here is the log from the last encode:

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[04/07/21] BD Rebuilder v0.61.21
[22:08:59] Source: ROCKY_HORROR_WW_00800
- Input BD size: 26.60 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:38:40.914]
- Target BD size: 21.97 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[22:08:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:08:59] Processing: VID_00260 (1 of 3)
- [22:08:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00260]
- [22:09:30] Reencoding video [VID_00260]
- [22:09:30] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [22:09:30] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [22:09:30] Processing: VID_00261 (2 of 3)
- [22:09:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00261]
- [22:10:03] Reencoding video [VID_00261]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 106,957 frames
- Bitrate: 23,325 Kbs
- [22:10:03] Reencoding: VID_00261, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:19:14] Reencoding: VID_00261, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:23:05] Video Encode complete
- [03:23:05] Processing: VID_00263 (3 of 3)
- [03:23:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00263]
- [03:23:11] Reencoding video [VID_00263]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,935 frames
- Bitrate: 23,016 Kbs
- [03:23:11] Reencoding: VID_00263, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:25:29] Reencoding: VID_00263, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:40:50] Video Encode complete
[03:40:50]PHASE ONE complete
[03:40:50]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [03:40:50] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[03:41:40] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[03:41:40] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- ROCKY_HORROR_WW folder removed.
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[03:42:52] JOB: ROCKY_HORROR_WW finished.


and here is the INF file:

[Status]
LABEL=ROCKY_HORROR_WW
VERSION=v0.61.21
SOURCE_SIZE=28559505408
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=28559505408
TARGET_SIZE=23592960000
REDUCTION=.826098339692928
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
FFMS2=0
SSIF_MODE=0
UHD_V3_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=3
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00260]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=00000000000000000000
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=4858045732
USE_ORIGINAL=1
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00261]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=17762342798
RATE=23325
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=1000000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00263]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=972571470
RATE=23016
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=1000000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
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BDRB and NVENC - NVENCC prematurely terminated

I'm very new to this and am not sure whether this is a BDRB bug or something else. So I'm doing this as a separate thread. Happy for it to merge into the BDRB bug thread if it transpires that's what I'm seeing. Any help on this will be appreciated:

I have embarked on a project to save storage space by pulling content off a DVD set and putting it onto BD-R DLs. Typically it will be around 7 or 8 DVDs into one BD-R DL. The source DVD is film based (a 1960s TV series) NTSC.

Method used is extract DVD titles using MakeMKV. Build a BD structure and menu using MultiAVCHD. Create disc folders without transcoding. So at this point we have a working BD layout with entirely SD MPEG content that has NOT been re-encoded; just remuxed as necessary. Files are not split; each m2ts stream represents one original title.

The completed output is larger than 50GB so it needs re-encoding to fit a BD-R DL, so I'd use BDRB to re-encode the whole thing down to a smaller size. Doing it in this order means that the whole re-encode (which is the only time-consuming part of it) can be done in a single sweep unattended. Note: I do not rescale the SD content; I leave it at its original definition - NTSC 720x480 - because upscaling will be done in the player in due course anyway and using more pixels would therefore only occupy unnecessary disc space or compromise on compression quality or both.

Up to press I have done several of these successfully on a fairly well-specced machine (i7) with no dedicated graphics chip using the x264 encoder. It encodes at around 80-100 fps and a full disc takes perhaps 6 hours. I just recently got a new machine which has a NVidia GTX1650Ti graphics chip and decided to try the same process, but using the NVENC encoder.

And here is the problem. It got about 75% into the encoding step of the first title (running at ~1500 fps - >15x faster than the i7/x264) and then quit with the message "NVENCC prematurely terminated". Eventually, I did the project on the same new machine using the x264 encoder and that has worked just fine, but 15x more slowly (again ~90 fps).

Since, I have tried the following, all with the same outcome:
- imported that first title alone into BDRB (m2ts from the BD mastered "stream" folder; about 90 minutes duration) and tried to back it up
- imported the raw source .mkv of that title; ditto
- imported a different title (~45 mins) from the same project; ditto
- imported a fresh title (~45 mins) from an entirely different disc set; ditto
- imported a title (~45 mins) using another extraction tool (not MakeMKV) to .mpg; ditto
- tried all encoding options CQM, VBR and "auto" on at least one of the above; ditto.
- tried three of the decoding/frame serve options; ditto

So - simply - any clues?

For reference, here is the BDRB log from a second attempt of the entire project:
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[04/04/21] BD Rebuilder v0.61.21
[09:00:36] Source: AVCHD_34
- Input BD size: 54.14 GB
- Approximate total content: [21:49:07.947]
- Target BD size: 41.99 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), VBR
- Decoding/Frame serving: NVENCC
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[09:00:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:00:41] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 35)
- [09:00:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [09:01:33] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 155,453 frames
- Bitrate: 4,333 Kbs
- [09:01:33] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- Error: NVENCC prematurely terminated.
- Encoded: 124372, expected: 155453
[09:03:19] - Failed video encode, aborted
[04/04/21] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.61.21
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Working Path Free Space: 565.31GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- LAVFILTERS: Ok
- X264: Ok
- X265: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[04/04/21] Systems Settings Check complete

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PC hardware:
GeForce GTX 1650 Ti (Driver v 461.92) + 4GB GDDR5 VRAM
Intel Iris XE integrated graphics
11th Gen Intel Core i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
64GB RAM
Windows 10 20H2
1TB Samsung 980PRO SSD

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MEDIA INFO for one of the test source files
General
Unique ID : 190443608565044140394060944873527511407 (0x8F461AD7238A3D69E420A18934E5096F)
Complete name : D:\GFU for NVENCC test make.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 1.82 GiB
Duration : 50 min 7 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 5 201 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2021-04-06 12:15:19
Writing application : MakeMKV v1.16.1 win(x64-release)
Writing library : libmakemkv v1.16.1 (1.3.10/1.5.2) win(x64-release)

Video
ID : 1
ID in the original source medium : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings : CustomMatrix / BVOP
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
Codec ID : V_MPEG2
Codec ID/Info : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Duration : 50 min 7 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 5 004 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 9 000 kb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : 2:3 Pulldown
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.604
Time code of first frame : 01:14:55:12
Time code source : Group of pictures header
GOP, Open/Closed : Closed
Stream size : 1.75 GiB (96%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Color primaries : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics : BT.601
Matrix coefficients : BT.601
Original source medium : DVD-Video

Audio
ID : 2
ID in the original source medium : 189 (0xBD)128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 50 min 7 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 68.8 MiB (4%)
Title : Stereo
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Original source medium : DVD-Video

Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 01
00:06:39.399 : en:Chapter 02
00:07:18.938 : en:Chapter 03
00:19:02.141 : en:Chapter 04
00:25:35.534 : en:Chapter 05
00:35:52.150 : en:Chapter 06
00:49:12.449 : en:Chapter 07
00:49:23.961 : en:Chapter 08

===============================================


Other tests also using a single imported file:
- checking deinterlace caused the encode to fail immediately
- checking IVTC caused the encode to fail immediately
- Convert SD to HD (720p) with no other options checked doubled the frame rate to 59.94. The progress bar showed progress up to 200% and DID complete.
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After it fails, go to the BD-RB folder and open LASTCMD.TXT. Then open a DOS windows and cut/paste the command from LASTCMD.TXT to the DOS window. Let it attempt the encode, and post the command along wth any error messages here so we can take a look at what is happening.


Just as an aside, why use MultiAVCHD when you can import the MKV files directly with BD-RB?
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I've redone this bd a couple of times and am having the same problem. The video playback of the burned bd has a notably slow fps, as if I'm watching a slow motion playback.

I am running v61.21. I have even tried uninstalling and reinstalling bdrb and all associated programs hoping that would help. It didn't.

Any help is appreciated. Data is below. Thanks!
The only thing I see that is strange is that you are doing a MOVIE-ONLY encode -- but one of the parts is not encoding while the other two are. I don't see an obvious connection to your problem -- but when they are all part of the same movie either all streams or none should be encoded, not a mixture. I'll have to follow the code and see how that could have happened.
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Interesting. I hadn't noticed that detail.

I typically do movie-only and with no problems. And I've never had an issue like this one (slow FPS) before. (I have occasionally run into out-of-sync audio, but I think that is a result of the LAV getting corrupted or replaced by another program install. Uninstalling everything and reinstalling with fresh new files fixes that.)

I just looked at the 3 included source files. 260 is the first 20 min or so of the movie. 261 is the middle 75 minutes. 263 is the last 4.

If I play each of these 3 files individually on VLC media player, the video and audio look fine, so the ripped source files are good.

For some reason, the encode/compress function seems to be dramatically slowing the FPS in the final .iso
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Originally Posted by sieve View Post
Interesting. I hadn't noticed that detail.

I typically do movie-only and with no problems. And I've never had an issue like this one (slow FPS) before. (I have occasionally run into out-of-sync audio, but I think that is a result of the LAV getting corrupted or replaced by another program install. Uninstalling everything and reinstalling with fresh new files fixes that.)

I just looked at the 3 included source files. 260 is the first 20 min or so of the movie. 261 is the middle 75 minutes. 263 is the last 4.

If I play each of these 3 files individually on VLC media player, the video and audio look fine, so the ripped source files are good.

For some reason, the encode/compress function seems to be dramatically slowing the FPS in the final .iso
Immediately after the encode, look at the command line in LASTCMD.TXT. See if a strange frame rate is somehow being used (--fps xx.xx in the command line).
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