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Old 12th February 2017, 00:05   #25621  |  Link
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Yeah, I'm aware that the CRF values aren't aligned. But the surprising part is that to get the same SSIM result, the file size of the X265 encode is sometimes larger than that of X264 (especially when the SSIM value is larger than .99xxx). I never would have expected that.
Does this happen mainly for grainy/noisy sources? There have been lot of discussions about grain retention with x265.
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Old 12th February 2017, 01:37   #25622  |  Link
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Does this happen mainly for grainy/noisy sources? There have been lot of discussions about grain retention with x265.
No. I ran encodes on over 300 different movies doing a 1% sample (SelectRangeEvery(4800,48)). They ranged in size from 720x480 to 1920x1080. It seems to be consistent across all of them.
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Old 12th February 2017, 16:04   #25623  |  Link
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No. I ran encodes on over 300 different movies doing a 1% sample (SelectRangeEvery(4800,48)). They ranged in size from 720x480 to 1920x1080. It seems to be consistent across all of them.
I may have spoken too soon. Rather than just looking at the numbers randomly, I decided to write a program that scans through them and does calculations on the results. It's not as bad as I thought -- but a lot less impressive than I would have expected -- and nowhere near halving the output size. I'm running it again, but instead of doing the first 300 files in the database -- I'm having it randomly select the files to encode.
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Old 12th February 2017, 17:20   #25624  |  Link
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And then the big question
Is the size reduction worth the extra computing power and time to compress and then view?
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Old 12th February 2017, 17:52   #25625  |  Link
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And then the big question
Is the size reduction worth the extra computing power and time to compress and then view?
With what I know at this point, no. I think the price of disc space is shrinking faster than any savings you'd get over time. If I were a company like Netflix that had to pay for transmission bandwidth it might be different.

We'll see what I get in this second round. It'll take most of the day to run.
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Old 12th February 2017, 18:09   #25626  |  Link
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I would say that for the same quality results you might be looking at 3x encode time to come down to 75% size
Plus the softening/blurring effect of x265
This is at 1080p though
At 4k it might be different
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Old 13th February 2017, 06:41   #25627  |  Link
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Yep...

Long Live x264!

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Old 15th February 2017, 13:25   #25628  |  Link
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Quick Menu question
This is the first time I've tried this, so still learning
I have imported 17 episodes (The Prisoner) into BDRB.
The Menu it creates lists episode 1-16 in a column then episode 17 on it's own in a second column. This looks rather silly.
How can I tell BDRB to even things up a bit
eg 1-9, then 10-17
or 1-6, 7-12, 13-17

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Old 15th February 2017, 14:20   #25629  |  Link
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Quick Menu question
This is the first time I've tried this, so still learning
I have imported 17 episodes (The Prisoner) into BDRB.
The Menu it creates lists episode 1-16 in a column then episode 17 on it's own in a second column. This looks rather silly.
How can I tell BDRB to even things up a bit
eg 1-9, then 10-17
or 1-6, 7-12, 13-17

TIA Wally
Right now the row count is fixed. I'll probably change that at some point. But you could add MENU_MAXITEMS=9, and it would create two pages with 9 items on the first and 8 on the second.
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Right now the row count is fixed. I'll probably change that at some point. But you could add MENU_MAXITEMS=9, and it would create two pages with 9 items on the first and 8 on the second.
Thanks for quick answer
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Old 16th February 2017, 22:01   #25631  |  Link
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Just add a new profile to the ALTERNATE.TXT file in the MISC folder. At the top of the file you'll see the settings that can be used. Here is an example of an HEVC profile with AC3 that could be added to the end of the file (assuming it hasn't been altered):
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caption=MKV Container, HEVC 1920x1080, 448Kbs DD5.1
vEncoder=1
vBitrate=2000
vKeyint=Auto
aBitrate=448
aType=0
vFormat=5
cType=1
Thank you very much, by cons I have as problem on 2 movies


[02/16/17] BD Rebuilder v0.50.23
[21:44:17] Source: MAGNIFICENT_SEVEN_00356
- Input BD size: 34,11 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:53:07.752]
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, HEVC 1920x1080, 448Kbs DD5.1
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
[21:44:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:44:19] Processing: VID_00350 (1 of 40)
- [21:44:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00350]
- [21:55:02] Reencoding video [VID_00350]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2*011 frames
- Bitrate: 1*480 Kbs
- [21:55:02] Reencoding: VID_00350, Pass 1 of 2
[21:55:08] - Failed video encode, aborted



is there a solution ??

thank
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Old 16th February 2017, 23:42   #25632  |  Link
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Can you post your inspect results?
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Old 17th February 2017, 00:48   #25633  |  Link
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Thank you very much, by cons I have as problem on 2 movies


[02/16/17] BD Rebuilder v0.50.23
[21:44:17] Source: MAGNIFICENT_SEVEN_00356
- Input BD size: 34,11 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:53:07.752]
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, HEVC 1920x1080, 448Kbs DD5.1
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
[21:44:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:44:19] Processing: VID_00350 (1 of 40)
- [21:44:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00350]
- [21:55:02] Reencoding video [VID_00350]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2*011 frames
- Bitrate: 1*480 Kbs
- [21:55:02] Reencoding: VID_00350, Pass 1 of 2
[21:55:08] - Failed video encode, aborted



is there a solution ??

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1. Please post the contents of your ALTERNATE.TXT file so I can see if it's entered correctly.
2. Are any other encodes working?
3. As gonca suggested, please post INSPECT results.
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Old 17th February 2017, 16:04   #25634  |  Link
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Looks like PS4 won't play "inmux 3D" as 3D. Anybody else tested on PS4? Just wondering if it's only on my PS4 set-up for some reason.
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Old 17th February 2017, 18:33   #25635  |  Link
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Looks like PS4 won't play "inmux 3D" as 3D. Anybody else tested on PS4? Just wondering if it's only on my PS4 set-up for some reason.
If it doesn't -- it is in violation of the standard. But I have my doubts that is the issue.
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1. Please post the contents of your ALTERNATE.TXT file so I can see if it's entered correctly.
2. Are any other encodes working?
3. As gonca suggested, please post INSPECT results.
I guess it's more fun to post a report than to post information that might be required to fix it?
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I guess it's more fun to post a report than to post information that might be required to fix it?
C'mon guys... you get the Boss all worked up and then leave him hangin'...
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Old 18th February 2017, 00:46   #25639  |  Link
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quick play with forced subtitles

hi, how can i get a quick play disk
with each video getting a subtitle forced on?

is this possible?

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Old 19th February 2017, 12:41   #25640  |  Link
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Subtitle not in sync for multi-file source

Hi, I am observing issues with subtitle when i try to back up my multi file BD movies. These are standard movie discs purchased from store. The video and audio has no problem. But subtitle goes out of sync after first file. I see the text for second file getting displayed for some other file after merger. This issue doesn't happen for all split file movies. But only for some of them. I am not able to differentiate between the two types of split file movies, one which works and another which wouldn't. My setting are listed below. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Let me know if any more details are needed. Thanks.

[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.23
ENCODER=0
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=47366
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=60000
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
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SOURCE_PATH=E:\SHERLOCK\
WORKING_PATH=D:\NEW FOLDER\

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