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Old 7th October 2014, 21:15   #21501  |  Link
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Major, I guess I figured I already posted about immortals audio track. Post 21482:
"(The postman) VC-1 streams, TRUE HD audio 640Kbps
(IMMORTALS) AVC streams\ DTS-HD XLL 1509Kbps MA\Core"
I suppose I should make every reference possible. That way everyone concerned, has a reference point
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Old 7th October 2014, 21:32   #21502  |  Link
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Major, I guess I figured I already posted about immortals audio track. Post 21482:
"(The postman) VC-1 streams, TRUE HD audio 640Kbps
(IMMORTALS) AVC streams\ DTS-HD XLL 1509Kbps MA\Core"
I suppose I should make every reference possible. That way everyone concerned, has a reference point
I saw what you said about Immortals but when you say things like "same/similar" in reference to Se7en then it leaves a lot of room for interpretation. You know, is it the same or isn't it? That's all I'm asking...and I don't know if you were really clear about it yet even? Se7en has DTS-HD XLL, I'm guessing? See that word, "guessing"?

Sorry to be a pill about the details.

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I saw what you said about Immortals but when you say things like "same/similar" in reference to Se7en then it leaves a lot of room for interpretation. You know, is it the same or isn't it? That's all I'm asking...and I don't know if you were really clear about it yet even? Se7en has DTS-HD XLL, I'm guessing? See that word "guessing"

Sorry to be a pill about the details.
You're not a pill. I totally understand what you're getting at. I said same/similar, because I didn't wanna say identical. I tend to hex things when i'm too confident lol :S While I've been encoding for some time, I'm certainly no expert. Not by a long shot. According to Mediainfo, they're identical.
I'll try to be more specific in the future. So as to not confuse, or leave things open for interpretation
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You're not a pill. I totally understand what you're getting at. I said same/similar, because I didn't wanna say identical. I tend to hex things when i'm too confident lol :S While I've been encoding for some time, I'm certainly no expert. Not by a long shot. According to Mediainfo, they're identical.
I'll try to be more specific in the future. So as to not confuse, or leave things open for interpretation
No problem! If you want to say "Mediainfo reports..." then your word is as good as gold for me.
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Old 7th October 2014, 21:52   #21505  |  Link
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If you want I can uninstall TMT and PDVD and see if that makes a difference.
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Old 7th October 2014, 21:58   #21506  |  Link
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If you want I can uninstall TMT and PDVD and see if that makes a difference.
Let me know
I had TMT installed on my previous windows install. Currently, only MPC-HC is installed for my viewing pleasure lol.
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Old 7th October 2014, 23:05   #21507  |  Link
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Doesn't seem to be a TMT or PDVD issue
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Doesn't seem to be a TMT or PDVD issue
I'm highly doubting that as well.
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I'm leaning that way myself MajorEvent. Another VC-1 source(SE7EN) has completed, and audio is perfectly within sync. But I find it hard to believe JDobbs only tested VC-1 sources. AVC is an extremely common source.

SE7EN has same/similar audio format as IMMORTALS.
Most of my tests were AVC, not VC-1. What it makes me believe is that some other AVC CODEC is interfering on your system.
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Is it possible a bug?:

After selecting "Alternate Movie-Only Output" mode and deselecting "Output BD or AVCHD Compliant Structure" and choosing any of the mkv containers and getting the encode to complete the lastcmd still includes several command line options (limitations) relating to a BD compliant structure (e.g. --bluray-compat --ref 4).
There's nothing wrong with that.
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I'm leaning that way myself MajorEvent. Another VC-1 source(SE7EN) has completed, and audio is perfectly within sync. But I find it hard to believe JDobbs only tested VC-1 sources. AVC is an extremely common source.

SE7EN has same/similar audio format as IMMORTALS.
Just as a clarifier... what kind of video card do each of you have? Is hardware acceleration shown as "enabled" in the LAV video configuration dialog?
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This might be a dumb question but I feel I should ask.
For playback I use JRiver which has an earlier version of LAV. I also installed LAV 0.63 for Dolby Atmos decoding.

Omegaman7 has MPC-HC, which has LAV in its install. Could this be the issue. Multiple versions of LAV on a system.
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GTX 670 here, HW acceleration has been both on and off over the numerous re-encodes done so far. I haven't noticed a difference.

No old versions of LavFilters that I know of.
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This might be a dumb question but I feel I should ask.
For playback I use JRiver which has an earlier version of LAV. I also installed LAV 0.63 for Dolby Atmos decoding.

Omegaman7 has MPC-HC, which has LAV in its install. Could this be the issue. Multiple versions of LAV on a system.
Not sure about JRiver -- but I have HPC-HC installed and it doesn't seem to affect it at all.
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I'm leaning that way myself MajorEvent. Another VC-1 source(SE7EN) has completed, and audio is perfectly within sync. But I find it hard to believe JDobbs only tested VC-1 sources. AVC is an extremely common source.

SE7EN has same/similar audio format as IMMORTALS.
This is interesting... and makes me feel I'm getting closer. If I go into the LAVFilter's video configuration and uncheck AVC (disabling LAV for AVC decoding) -- the output using whatever codec is there -- is out of sync by about a second or more.

This makes me think that in your cases whatever AVC decoder is there by default (before LAVFilters installation) with Win7/8 is being used rather than LAV... perhaps it isn't being overridden in your install. That might have something to do with the Win7 default settings -- which had to be manually set by BD-RB when using FFDSHOW -- maybe they need to be forced for LAV also???

Can you check and make sure AVC decoding is checked under formats in the video configuration?
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Could one of you out-of-sync guys look at your registry see what value you have set for these keys:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferrred\{31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred\{31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}

This is the AVC preferred CODEC.
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Not to derail your LAVFilter discussions, but any idea why Alt Movie Only to MKV (1920x1080 intact Audio) backups are now taking longer than before?

On 09/05/14 Using v0.47.07 (beta) Source: 34255889_PRESTIGE_NA_00011
- Input BD size: 30.75 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:10:29.822]
Started at 13:44:44 ended at 15:46:17 (2hrs 2 min)

On 09/30/14 using v0.47.07 (beta) Source: IMAX_HUBBLE_BD80_00100
- Input BD size: 9.67 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:43:58.635]
Started at 18:06:20 and completed at 18:56:15 (about 50 minutes)

on 10/06/14 using v0.49.02 (beta) Source: IMAX_HUBBLE_BD80_00100
- Input BD size: 9.67 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:43:58.635]
Started at 11:27:14 and completed at 12:26:37 (about 59 minutes)

Today, using v0.49.04 (beta) Source: THE_MONUMENTS_MEN_00001
- Input BD size: 26.13 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:58:23.095]
Started at 11:32:41 and completed at 15:55:06 (about 4hs 20 min).
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Nothing has changed in that area -- except a newer version of X264. Are you sure the quality setting is the same on both runs? I corrected some code that decided what setting to use when "Automatic" was chosen. The older version would have been more likely to use a faster/lower quality setting in that case -- when it really didn't apply to ALTERNATE encodes (based upon target BD size). It also makes a huge difference if your computer is being used for other tasks at the time of the encode -- as "IDLE" is the default priority for encodes and other processes would likely have a higher priority.
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Those are the two registry keys I have
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